Watkins: Jones should extend Garrett now

[khiladi]

Calvin Watkins spent an eternity bashing Wade and praising Garrett to no end. The guy has gone Jerry Jones and is trying everything in his power to make himself look like he knows what he's talking about.

 

[khiladi]

 

[TheSport78]

This only confirms how much of an idiot Calvin Watkins truly is.

 

[khiladi]

Ron Rivera was a lame duck if I'm not mistaken and was totally on the hot seat at the beginning of the season. If JG can turn the team around as Rivera did, then I'm all for a Rex Ryan extension.

Comparing the two is just stupid. Ron Rivera had an extensive coaching background and every year the team improved and in his third year of 'process' they made the playoffs. This proves that if Ron Rivera was on the hot seat, Garrett should be fired.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

I thought extending Ratliff was a major brain fart. Extending this clown Garrett would take stupidity to unseen levels.

The only way I would agree to extending Garrett is if it is written in his contract he has to dress like a clown on game day. Big goofy shoes, rubber ball on nose, make-up and the whole nine yards.

 

[khiladi]

I thought extending Ratliff was a major brain fart. Extending this clown Garrett would take stupidity to unseen levels.

The only way I would agree to extending Garrett is if it is written in his contract he has to dress like a clown on game day. Big goofy shoes, rubber ball on nose, make-up and the whole nine yards.

I'm good for that extension...

 

[Bill Wooten]

This isn't college football. He doesn't have a recruiting class coming in to make promises to. I actually agree with Jerry on this one. Make the ginger prove he is worth the extension. So far, he has not done that.

 

[dupree89]

If having only one more year on his contract renders him a lame duck coach and thereby curtails his ability to perform, it makes sense to give him an extension now.

Mind you, I'm not saying he deserves an extension based on results, just on creating the best atmosphere possible.

this is exactly right. I dont want this clown as head coach anymore, but there are reasons why teams extend the head coach. The Jets even did it and they are one of the worst run teams in the NFL. Players will think Garrett is about to be canned and wont listen to him. Not all players of course. But some. And if you even wanted to think about new coordinators, nobody worth anything will come to Dallas knowing that they could quite possibly be gone after one year.

This is one of the most shared beliefs in the NFL, yet Jerry wants to attempt to swim upstream. It amazes me how this idiot appears to just want to do things in strange ways in hopes that something works so he can say "I told you so". Jerry Jones: A brilliant businessman, but a total zero and loser as an NFL Executive.

 

[Beast_from_East]

this is exactly right. I dont want this clown as head coach anymore, but there are reasons why teams extend the head coach. The Jets even did it and they are one of the worst run teams in the NFL. Players will think Garrett is about to be canned and wont listen to him. Not all players of course. But some. And if you even wanted to think about new coordinators, nobody worth anything will come to Dallas knowing that they could quite possibly be gone after one year.

This is one of the most shared beliefs in the NFL, yet Jerry wants to attempt to swim upstream. It amazes me how this idiot appears to just want to do things in strange ways in hopes that something works so he can say "I told you so". Jerry Jones: A brilliant businessman, but a total zero and loser as an NFL Executive.

A. Most of the players totally ignore what Garrett says now, so no biggie there.

B. Jerry is not hiring any new coaches, so no need to worry about attracting anybody good.

C. Per Jerry, Garrett is "in training" and last time I checked, trainees don't get extensions.

Looks like Jerry realizes that its going to take a full house cleaning if 2014 turns out as bad as its looking right now...............so why waste the money, its actually a smart move by Jerry.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Has Jerry every actually confirmed his contract status? I know when Garrett signed his deal news broke that it was a four-year contract, but I also know Jerry has said funny things about handshake deals and renewable contracts in the past. I fully expect Jerry to deflect all lame duck talk with vague references that make it sound like Garrett is signed until the end of time, regardless of what the actual truth is.

 

[Tabascocat]

Has Jerry every actually confirmed his contract status? I know when Garrett signed his deal news broke that it was a four-year contract, but I also know Jerry has said funny things about handshake deals and renewable contracts in the past. I fully expect Jerry to deflect all lame duck talk with vague references that make it sound like Garrett is signed until the end of time, regardless of what the actual truth is.

2014 is the last year on his current contract.


There is not one good reason for an extension right now. If Jerry did extend him before the season starts, he deserves every bit of money loss coming his way.

Let Garrett coach for his life and lets see what happens. Heck, he might be a better coach under pressure and the thought of looking for another job if he fails again.

It is time to prove that your process is working Jason..................................

 

[DoctorChicken]

I would love for Garrett to prove us all wrong next year and go 11-5 and win a playoff game or 2. If he does, then he has earned an extension. But as of now, he hasn't earned one.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

2014 is the last year on his current contract.

.... said by Jerry when? Jerry doesn't usually discuss contract details.

 

[Tabascocat]

.... said by Jerry when? Jerry doesn't usually discuss contract details.

ESPN’s SportsCenter cut away from Jones speaking to discuss the Luck story, but we stuck around to uncover the goodies. The home viewers didn’t miss much.

1. Garrett’s contract will last four years. That’s fairly standard for a new coach.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/06/jason-garrett-gets-four-years-from-cowboys/

Garrett signed a four-year contract extension with the Cowboys in 2011, which gives him one more year on his deal after this season.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...garrett-will-coach-dallas-cowboys-next-season



I don't know what you are getting to, but this is his last season under contract. There is no way to dispute this, he signed a 4-year extension in 2011. That is 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014 under contract. Whatever handshake deals you might think they have, he is still under contract for his last season

Jerry has two choices here:
1. extend Garrett later
2. fire him

There is no gray area, it is black and white with one year remaining.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

ESPN’s SportsCenter cut away from Jones speaking to discuss the Luck story, but we stuck around to uncover the goodies. The home viewers didn’t miss much.

1. Garrett’s contract will last four years. That’s fairly standard for a new coach.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/06/jason-garrett-gets-four-years-from-cowboys/

Garrett signed a four-year contract extension with the Cowboys in 2011, which gives him one more year on his deal after this season.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...garrett-will-coach-dallas-cowboys-next-season



I don't know what you are getting to, but this is his last season under contract. There is no way to dispute this, he signed a 4-year extension in 2011. That is 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014 under contract. Whatever handshake deals you might think they have, he is still under contract for his last season

Jerry has two choices here:
1. extend Garrett later
2. fire him

There is no gray area, it is black and white with one year remaining.

I know the details, I said that I knew that's what broke when the deal was signed. But I am also saying that Jerry does not discuss contract details and that if he wants to say he tore up Garrett's contract a year ago and gave him a new one he can. I guarantee you when Jerry is asked any "lame duck" questions that you will not hear a straight up admission that he is indeed in the last year. Either that, or he actually will just extend him to avoid that talk.

 

[Tabascocat]

I know the details, I said that I knew that's what broke when the deal was signed. But I am also saying that Jerry does not discuss contract details and that if he wants to say he tore up Garrett's contract a year ago and gave him a new one he can. I guarantee you when Jerry is asked any "lame duck" questions that you will not hear a straight up admission that he is indeed in the last year. Either that, or he actually will just extend him to avoid that talk.

That is where your losing me. There can't be an under the table new contract that magically appears later. Any contract, new or old, has to be reported at the time of completion. I do not discount what your saying about Jerry here, but it is a fact that Jason is on his last year of the extension.

Basically, Jerry can't legally come out and say Garrett was extended a year ago and they kept it under wraps. I know Jerry doesn't discuss them much, but he has to report an extension and we would know about it.

Your guess is as good as mine regarding the "lame duck" stuff and how he handles it though.

 

[Hoofbite]

Ron Rivera was a lame duck if I'm not mistaken and was totally on the hot seat at the beginning of the season. If JG can turn the team around as Rivera did, then I'm all for a Rex Ryan extension.

I think Rivera had a 4 year deal.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

That is where your losing me. There can't be an under the table new contract that magically appears later. Any contract, new or old, has to be reported at the time of completion. I do not discount what your saying about Jerry here, but it is a fact that Jason is on his last year of the extension.

Basically, Jerry can't legally come out and say Garrett was extended a year ago and they kept it under wraps. I know Jerry doesn't discuss them much, but he has to report an extension and we would know about it.

Your guess is as good as mine regarding the "lame duck" stuff and how he handles it though.

Legally? lol... what are they gonna do, throw Jerry in a jail that's the shape of a helmet? They are under no such obligation to announce anything. Contracts are extended quietly all the time, though admittedly not coaches because they usually want to make that known. Unless you can find some proof that there is something special in NFL league policy about a coach having his contract extended... in that case I will stand corrected. I don't see any evidence that Jerry has to say anything.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/09/24/3645697/undefeated-miami-dolphins-extend.html

 

[Tabascocat]

Legally? lol... what are they gonna do, throw Jerry in a jail that's the shape of a helmet? They are under no such obligation to announce anything. Contracts are extended quietly all the time, though admittedly not coaches because they usually want to make that known. Unless you can find some proof that there is something special in NFL league policy about a coach having his contract extended... in that case I will stand corrected. I don't see any evidence that Jerry has to say anything.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/09/24/3645697/undefeated-miami-dolphins-extend.html

That article talks about a quiet extension, which is legal. They don't have to announce the details but the extension for Ireland was announced at the time, or shortly thereafter.

Let me clarify my stance, I think were not on the same page. Jerry can extend Garrett without us knowing(still has to be reported to the NFL execs) but he can not make up a new contract and retro-activate it. If one was made, the NFL knows about it.

I believe if Garrett was extended, we would have known about it from a leak or from the horses mouth by now. I agree that Jerry doesn't have to tell us fans but there is no way if Jason was extended that we would not know about it IMO.

 

[silver]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/michael_silver/06/27/ownerrankings/1.html

This is what I was referencing. I guess there isn't enought htere to consider it fact.

Jones wanted his toy back. It didn't take him much to win that stare down. Oh what could've been.