We are stuck in purgatory at this point with Dak

[Sydla]

So we can only blame an INT from Dak, but not the defense opening like the red sea as McCaffery scores a TD, right?
That's not shut down.

Well he had two bad interceptions. And San Fran had been averaging around 33 points per game in the 2nd half of the season and only scored 19. They scored only one TD. McCaffery scored on a 2 yard run. That's it. That was their one TD.

The defense did their job. They held the 49ers well below their average points (and yards). They didn't let McCaffery or Deebo make any big plays. They did what was expected of them, if not more.

The one aspect of the team that really didn't sniff expectations or what he should have done? The QB. He was woeful. It really is comical that you guys can't just admit that.

 

[IceBowler]

If Purgatory is one game and one quarter away from the championship game, thats not so bad.

At least its not the 8-9 doom and gloom season you predicted before we started. With Dak we have a shot. Whos your solution?

Andy Dalton? Rush? Talk about laughable. NO thanks. Almost time to resign Dak. Until there is a better option you will just have to keep making totally laughable predictions and having them blow up in your face.

Not at $40M a year - not even close .. the "Market Price" be damned.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

“Cherry pick” is the phrase of the day defending his play…funny considering they are cherry picking 1 out of his last 5 and can’t respond regarding a guy who played 12 games and led the league in interceptions. I just don’t get why there is so much extremism. @Sydia laid out a very down the middle, non extreme post. People do know you can think Dak has some great abilities and games but that he had a bad game that made a difference and slipped this season right?

Roy got something. Dak apology syndrom?

 

[CowboyFrog]

And here we go all real discussion out the window Dak war to the thread...Jesus Dak is not horrible, Dak is not great Dak is Dak. WE have a very good defense we have mediocre weapons especially when Pollard went out... Dak is ironclad going to be here next year, so if this Franchise is serious about winning (HUGLEY DEBATABLE) then we need to do what we can to use this defense now which is get a few more weapons and change the scheme to something that helps this offense AND QB be succesfull in the playoffs...If your only focus is trashing Dak then i question your motives and if you cant see this defense played lights out against a damn good team then you are too far into the Dak rabbit hole and need to come up for air....

 

[basel90]

Despite the notion that I am a Dak hater who wanted him gone years ago, I've never thought he was a terrible QB or he needed to be shot to the sun. I think for some fans it's tough to admit he might not be the guy because deep down you know how hard it is to find a franchise QB. You wanted Dak to be the guy, frankly, we needed Dak to be the guy.

But as the seasons come and go, it becomes a little bit clearer he's unlikely to be a championship caliber QB. The alternative is trying to find that next guy. No, it's not Rush. No, it's not Grier. It's some kid slinging balls in college or even high school at this point. Frankly, it could take years to find that guy after Dak is no longer our QB.

And that just sucks. Accepting the reality that Dak is likely not the guy means that we may have to experience sheer pain in trying to find the next guy. We lucked out that Dak turned out to be as good as he was being a later round pick. That happens quite infrequently. It's not a recipe for success that we should follow. However, just picking QBs in the first and second rounds doesn't guarantee immediate success either.

Contract wise Dak is here for a few more years. But his contract largely precludes the Cowboys from going out and bringing in proven playmakers in FA to give Dak enough to get him closer to succeeding. The draft is a crap shoot, and despite our successes in drafting, we have some failures too.

All this just adds up to purgatory. We are stuck. Stuck between sucking and being elite. Stuck between not making the playoff and getting bounced before a champ game. Stuck between dominating the NFC East and finishing back in the pack. It just sucks.

I would argue we did not luck into dak at all. Despite him being a good/Average QB , he has chained this franchise into mediocrity for 7 to 11 years. Knowing how jerry operates , Dak's contract and cost will be stretched further than next year in order to afford other drafts and renewals. Meaning we are stuck with Dak , knowing well he is NOT IT. A sad prognosis indeed. Saying we lucked into Dak is a mistake. All dak got us is heartbreak and another 10 -11 years of no CCG or Superbowls. Any Cowboys fan will tell you they will be ok tanking or being mediocre every now and then if it means a new high draft QB who can actually WIN the big games. Just ask Cincinati how Joe Burrows has changed its luck. Or just go back to 89 when the cowboys drafted Aikman.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Not at $40M a year - not even close .. the "Market Price" be damned.

Sadly its going to cost more. At some point this strangle hold on paying top 10 QB's crazy money has to stop.

 

[IceBowler]

"a bad game a few games later"

Thats the NFL buddy. Thats QB play.

How did Tom Brady play? How did Josh Allen play?

The better teams usually beat the teams they are better than. Sorry if you predicted an easy Cowboys win. This outcome was very predictable. Happened last year as a matter of fact.

Not resigning him without a better QB would be dumb.

So the whole franchise should fold up shop because a bunch of fans are mad we dont have Mahomes?

Until we have a better QB on the roster Dak is the guy. Anything else is laughable.

I honestly believe that the disappointment with #4 would be a fraction of what it is because his command of the salary cap space absolutely prevents us from brining in quality players .. which, coincidentally, #4 needs in order to win in the post season.

 

[kskboys]

Well he had two bad interceptions. And San Fran had been averaging around 33 points per game in the 2nd half of the season and only scored 19. They scored only one TD. McCaffery scored on a 2 yard run. That's it. That was their one TD.

The defense did their job. They held the 49ers well below their average points (and yards). They didn't let McCaffery or Deebo make any big plays. They did what was expected of them, if not more.

The one aspect of the team that really didn't sniff expectations or what he should have done? The QB. He was woeful. It really is comical that you guys can't just admit that.

I've only seen 2 posters defending Dak.

 

[IceBowler]

Jones does not see a buffoon whenever he looks at himself in the mirror. He always sees the best general manager to have ever been in the National Football League. Whether anyone else sees him for what he truly is does not matter to him enough to see anything different.

.. and he would be correct if your metric is the bottom financial line. As the Owner, it is his perception that matters relative to the GM's performance. Of course, the rest of us would like a championship team every now and again.

 

[kskboys]

And here we go all real discussion out the window Dak war to the thread...Jesus Dak is not horrible, Dak is not great Dak is Dak. WE have a very good defense we have mediocre weapons especially when Pollard went out... Dak is ironclad going to be here next year, so if this Franchise is serious about winning (HUGLEY DEBATABLE) then we need to do what we can to use this defense now which is get a few more weapons and change the scheme to something that helps this offense AND QB be succesfull in the playoffs...If your only focus is trashing Dak then i question your motives and if you cant see this defense played lights out against a damn good team then you are too far into the Dak rabbit hole and need to come up for air....

Dak = Jameis Winston

 

[Ken]

Since you are making accusations yet again in your delusional mind show me where I said Dak was a back-up QB and I predicted Dallas loses to TB......you make crap up all the time.

The facts are I and many others have been saying Dak needs to go and after the game against SF many professionals are saying something similar. Funny how you point to TB, an 8-9 weak team barely in the playoffs as your proof Dak is a great QB yet the game before and after show what he truly has been this season.

Keep praying to Dak.

Oh, if "Many others" are saying it, it must be true. lol

And many "professionals" too....lol


TB won their division, that is not barely making it. They also were the healthiest they had been in a long time this year and had the GOAT at the helm.

Sure, not as impressive as beating Daniel Freaking Jones and his newly elevated from the Practice Squad weapons...but I think it is comparable...lol

 

[Fritsch_the_cat]

Jesus Dak is not horrible, Dak is not great Dak is Dak.

I think that's the opinion of most here, Dak isn't horrible, he just isn't consistently good enough to get us to a championship.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Dak = Jameis Winston

Whoa....little harsh there bruh.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I honestly believe that the disappointment with #4 would be a fraction of what it is because his command of the salary cap space absolutely prevents us from brining in quality players .. which, coincidentally, #4 needs in order to win in the post season.

They were all saying this same stuff when he was on his rookie salary cap. You can pay a guy 40 million, you just cant do other stupid things like pay Zeke 18 million.

And this team was a player or two away from beating the Niners. Its not like this team couldnt beat the Eagles. There were 2 or 3 teams in the NFL better than the Cowboys. We just played one of them in the 2nd round.

 

[kskboys]

Oh, if "Many others" are saying it, it must be true. lol

And many "professionals" too....lol


TB won their division, that is not barely making it. They also were the healthiest they had been in a long time this year and had the GOAT at the helm.

Sure, not as impressive as beating Daniel Freaking Jones and his newly elevated from the Practice Squad weapons...but I think it is comparable...lol

TB was 8-9. They barely won a really bad division. Yes, that is barely making it. They were also a bottom 10 scoring O.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Oh, if "Many others" are saying it, it must be true. lol

And many "professionals" too....lol


TB won their division, that is not barely making it. They also were the healthiest they had been in a long time this year and had the GOAT at the helm.

Sure, not as impressive as beating Daniel Freaking Jones and his newly elevated from the Practice Squad weapons...but I think it is comparable...lol

When you were (rightly) defending Dak early on....you'd say "the real pros say so".

But when Vet uses it here you're skeptical. Hmmm.

Living in TB, I;ve watched almost every TB game. They sucked and became almost as dysfunctional as us.

 

[Ken]

I honestly believe that the disappointment with #4 would be a fraction of what it is because his command of the salary cap space absolutely prevents us from brining in quality players .. which, coincidentally, #4 needs in order to win in the post season.

Dak's contract does not hinder anything. He literally has a base of 31 million next year. You can convert all of that to bonus and spread it out.

Don't act shocked when they do just that because this was the plan all along. The 49er game does not change that.

 

[kskboys]

Whoa....little harsh there bruh.

I know, but I think it's closer than you'd think.

 

[Ken]

TB was 8-9. They barely won a really bad division. Yes, that is barely making it. They were also a bottom 10 scoring O.

Yet, the Giants were a horrible team too and ran out a cast of guys catching the football I have never heard of...yet....the Eagles are Amazing!

Sorry, I would face the Giants at home 100 out of 100 over having to face TB on the road.

 

[USArmyVet]

So we can only blame an INT from Dak, but not the defense opening like the red sea as McCaffery scores a TD, right?
That's not shut down.

End of game score was 19-12 in favor of SF.

Dak's 1st INT cost Dallas at least 3 points (and possibly 7 points but SF took that INT and eventually got a FG so a 6-point swing)

Dak's 2nd INT directly led to SF getting 3 points.

So at the very least Dak's 2 INT's cost Dallas 3 points, gave SF 3 points, and led to a 6-point swing......so 9 points in a close game that had it not been for Dak's 2 INT's Dallas wins 15-13.