We are stuck in purgatory at this point with Dak

[Ken]

Pretty sure Niner pass D is ranked like 27th.

When you are getting "blowed out" and can't run, this tends to happen in a counting category.

Look deeper, as was posted earlier.

 

[Fritsch_the_cat]

When you are getting "blowed out" and can't run, this tends to happen in a counting category.

Look deeper, as was posted earlier.

OK, I was wrong, Niner's pass defense is awesome.

 

[USArmyVet]

Did you cry when Dak threw for 300 yards and 5 TD's against the Bucs?

Whats it like to hide under a rock until the team losses?

Is that your go to? Oh look, Dak had a good came in between his crap games against Washington and SF.

 

[Ken]

Based on what? He was horrid against the Commanders. He was mediocre against the Titans. Sure he was great against the Eagles and Bucs. But that run would seem to indicate you really don't know what Dak you are getting week to week. So the only basis for you to say that he basically plays well against anyone else in the posteason seems more based on your feels than reality and actual evidence.

If Dak doesn't suck on Sunday, guess what? We probably "get around" San Fran and are focusing on Philly. QB play was the single largest and biggest factor we lost on Sunday. Trying to argue that the 49ers are some insurmountable hill to climb that we have to figure out just ignores the reality of the situation. That our QB screwed us on Sunday.

Mediocre wins that game vs the 49ers.

He was bad against Washington but that was more of a team thing, imo.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Pretty sure Niner pass D is ranked like 27th.

Well actually it ranked #31 in pass plays against % which means teams tried to throw on them alot, probably because they couldnt run the ball and they were behind, they ranked #11 in YPP and #3 in INT% and #1 in points..so again teams did try and throw on them when they did they didnt get good yardage and threw alot of INT's and didnt score much..

 

[Fritsch_the_cat]

Well actually it ranked #31 in pass plays against % which means teams tried to throw on them alot, probably because they couldnt run the ball and they were behind, they ranked #11 in YPP and #3 in INT% and #1 in points..so again teams did try and throw on them when they did they didnt get good yardage and threw alot of INT's and didnt score much..

OK, I was wrong, Niner's pass defense is awesome.

 

[Cas2800]

True to an extent but even Jerry reaches his breaking point.

In reality, a quality GM would probably be thinking exit strategy at this point with Dak. Start thinking 2-3 years down the road.

Jerry won't. He'll stick with Dak for those next 3-4 years and then when it's obvious it's not work, he'll pull the rip cord - when it's too late and after wasting a couple more seasons. In other words, if Dak is still doing what he's doing 3-4 years from now, he's not getting a 2nd contract.

And let's be honest, who really knows how long Jerry is going to be around at this point.

Let’s face it. As long as the Cowboys are having 10 game win seasons Jerry is in Heaven.iIt keeps the fans hoping and the stadium filled. It’s worked for him the past 27 years.

 

[Sydla]

Because I'm correct and you take issue with everyone you consider "stupid" that doesn't align with your one-sided, lazy analysis.

Anyone who suggests that "We lost because of Dak" has a strange emotional hang up that ignores the reality of a team sport. Those are your words. "All because of Dak."
The only culprit. That's sounds awfully emotional and ignorant. Nothing personal, but you don't even try to have a decent convo.
I'll let you continue to badmouth only Dak and some fans here, because it's kind of maniacal.

We are talking about CowboyRoy and his desire to blame the defense, in part, for the loss. Some losses are a team loss. The Commanders loss at the end of the year was a team loss. The offense sucked, the defense got lit up, etc. Sometimes one side carries the other. Take the Eagles win. Offense and Dak played great. The defense got shredded by Minshew.

But sometimes, when you lose, the responsibility is limited and not a "team" loss.

The defense played more than well enough to win on Sunday. They did their job. They held the 49ers, who had been averaging close to 35 points over the 2nd half of the NFL season to 19. They limited the big plays. They kept Deebo Samuel in check. They held the San Fran run game in check for much of the game until they got worn down at the end.

Trying to hoist some blame on the defense for Sunday is simply just trying to shift responsibilty away from Dak. It's patently obvious to anyone who isn't in the tank for Dak and spending the days after a poor performance trying to find excuses for him.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

I can't believe some people are still defending Dak. He's 95% the reason we lost.

 

[USArmyVet]

SF is the issue. We can blame Dak all we want but they are the problem. The game he had vs them doesn't happen against any other team in the playoffs from the NFC, IMO.

We have to figure out how to get around them. That is continuing to strengthen our defense, improving our running game/offensive line, adding another playmaker to the O and getting a new offensive system.

Those things are absolutely enough to win a super bowl with dak, IMO.

The 49ers and the Eagles do not have a stud QB, contrary to the popular opinion on Hurts all of the sudden lol. He is a good player but they surrounded him with talent. We don't need to go to that extent but we need another wr who can get open. This isn't unreasonable. We need a RB that defenses actually have to account for when Pollard isn't in the game.

He had a crap game against Washington including a pick 6 so it's not just SF you need to worry about.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Is that your go to? Oh look, Dak had a good came in between his crap games against Washington and SF.

We can all cherry pick just like you.

12-5 two years in a row winning against the Bucs with 300 yards and 5 TD's is enough to put your Dak sucks or is average and all your other theories in the toilet.

You want to cry that Dak is not Mahomes we can do that together.

 

[USArmyVet]

Mediocre wins that game vs the 49ers.

He was bad against Washington but that was more of a team thing, imo.

14 of 37 for 37.8% comp % with 128 yards 1 td and 1 int (pick 6)....that's a team thing????

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Despite the notion that I am a Dak hater who wanted him gone years ago, I've never thought he was a terrible QB or he needed to be shot to the sun. I think for some fans it's tough to admit he might not be the guy because deep down you know how hard it is to find a franchise QB. You wanted Dak to be the guy, frankly, we needed Dak to be the guy.

But as the seasons come and go, it becomes a little bit clearer he's unlikely to be a championship caliber QB. The alternative is trying to find that next guy. No, it's not Rush. No, it's not Grier. It's some kid slinging balls in college or even high school at this point. Frankly, it could take years to find that guy after Dak is no longer our QB.

And that just sucks. Accepting the reality that Dak is likely not the guy means that we may have to experience sheer pain in trying to find the next guy. We lucked out that Dak turned out to be as good as he was being a later round pick. That happens quite infrequently. It's not a recipe for success that we should follow. However, just picking QBs in the first and second rounds doesn't guarantee immediate success either.

Contract wise Dak is here for a few more years. But his contract largely precludes the Cowboys from going out and bringing in proven playmakers in FA to give Dak enough to get him closer to succeeding. The draft is a crap shoot, and despite our successes in drafting, we have some failures too.

All this just adds up to purgatory. We are stuck. Stuck between sucking and being elite. Stuck between not making the playoff and getting bounced before a champ game. Stuck between dominating the NFC East and finishing back in the pack. It just sucks.

I think Dak is around that top 10 but there was no reason to not make the NFC championship game this season. All the pieces were in place, sure receivers weren't great not including Lamb but enough to win.

I think Dak isn't the QB for Dallas because for one he doesn't have that killer mindset. The pressure of being the Dallas QB might be too much for Dak and he would do much better with a different team without those expectations.

 

[Ken]

He had a crap game against Washington including a pick 6 so it's not just SF you need to worry about.

He also had a bunch of drops happen. We didn't run the ball....it was bad all the way around.

 

[USArmyVet]

We can all cherry pick just like you.

12-5 two years in a row winning against the Bucs with 300 yards and 5 TD's is enough to put your Dak sucks or is average and all your other theories in the toilet.

You want to cry that Dak is not Mahomes we can do that together.

When was Dak 12-5 this year? Oh wait, he wasn't as Dak was 9-5 this season including the playoffs and was 11-6 last season including the playoffs.

Try fact-checking prior to spewing your lies.

 

[CowboyRoy]

When was Dak 12-5 this year? Oh wait, he wasn't as Dak was 9-5 this season including the playoffs and was 11-6 last season including the playoffs.

Try fact-checking prior to spewing your lies.

Either way it blows away you and your laughable theories. LOL

Changes nothing.

 

[USArmyVet]

He also had a bunch of drops happen. We didn't run the ball....it was bad all the way around.

Since we are listing excuses did the water boy forget to help Dak too?

 

[USArmyVet]

Either way it blows away you and your laughable theories. LOL

Changes nothing.

What theories? Dak sucked against Washington and cost Dallas the game against SF.....those are facts, not theories....although I would not expect you to know facts.

 

[CowboyRoy]

What theories? Dak sucked against Washington and cost Dallas the game against SF.....those are facts, not theories....although I would not expect you to know facts.

Your theory that Dak is backup material has been destroyed. 300 yards and 5 TD's in his best performace ever against Brady and the bucs. A game you predicted we would lose.

See, we can all cherry pick.

 

[Pass2Run]

We are talking about CowboyRoy and his desire to blame the defense, in part, for the loss. Some losses are a team loss. The Commanders loss at the end of the year was a team loss. The offense sucked, the defense got lit up, etc. Sometimes one side carries the other. Take the Eagles win. Offense and Dak played great. The defense got shredded by Minshew.

But sometimes, when you lose, the responsibility is limited and not a "team" loss.

The defense played more than well enough to win on Sunday. They did their job. They held the 49ers, who had been averaging close to 35 points over the 2nd half of the NFL season to 19. They limited the big plays. They kept Deebo Samuel in check. They held the San Fran run game in check for much of the game until they got worn down at the end.

Trying to hoist some blame on the defense for Sunday is simply just trying to shift responsibilty away from Dak. It's patently obvious to anyone who isn't in the tank for Dak and spending the days after a poor performance trying to find excuses for him.

Only those with the lowest of low football IQs would blame the Dallas defense for that loss.