We are stuck in purgatory at this point with Dak

Ken

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When you were (rightly) defending Dak early on....you'd say "the real pros say so".

But when Vet uses it here you're skeptical. Hmmm.

Living in TB, I;ve watched almost every TB game. They sucked and became almost as dysfunctional as us.
Well i have seen the "professionals" who are saying these things and they are just looking for click bait. People doing real analysis are not saying those things.

Dak played bad...i am very disappointed in that. Didn't expect it at all. That does not make him a horrible player.

Go look at Brady's playoff career and count the clunkers that he had as bad or worse than Dak's. It happens.
 

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Dak played bad...i am very disappointed in that. Didn't expect it at all. That does not make him a horrible player.
Everyone who is criticizing Dak, even some who want rid of him, don't think he's a horrible player, just that his best isn't good enough. I like Dak as a person, seems like a good, decent human being, and he certainly isn't the worst QB in the league, but he just doesn't have that extra bit to get him over the top. He tries, he really does, but sometimes you just don't have what it takes no matter how hard you try.
 

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BWAAAAAAA!!! I never called Dak one of the best.

Keep crying and lying. Most QB's take a dump against the Niners D.

12-5 and the 2nd round is mediocrity? Poory guy.
Dak vs. SF 23 of 37 for a 62.2% comp % with 206 yards and 1 td and 2 int's

Geno Smith vs. SF (the week prior) 25 of 35 for a 71.4% comp % with 253 yards and 2 td's and 1 int

So I guess Geno Smith isn't "most" QB's and so Dak shouldn't be even in Geno's league I guess.

Oh,how about Marcus Mariota seeing as he went 13 of 14 for 129 yards with 2 td's against SF?????
 

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Well i have seen the "professionals" who are saying these things and they are just looking for click bait. People doing real analysis are not saying those things.

Dak played bad...i am very disappointed in that. Didn't expect it at all. That does not make him a horrible player.

Go look at Brady's playoff career and count the clunkers that he had as bad or worse than Dak's. It happens.
All that is fine....but not what i said. You have a bias for your agenda. When "the pros" praise dak you're all in. When they criticize dak, you're like whoa whoa whoa....holdup.

Cant have it both ways.
 

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Dak vs. SF 23 of 37 for a 62.2% comp % with 206 yards and 1 td and 2 int's

Geno Smith vs. SF (the week prior) 25 of 35 for a 71.4% comp % with 253 yards and 2 td's and 1 int

So I guess Geno Smith isn't "most" QB's and so Dak shouldn't be even in Geno's league I guess.

Oh,how about Marcus Mariota seeing as he went 13 of 14 for 129 yards with 2 td's against SF?????
Are you calling 253 yards, 2 TD's and 1 pick a great game?

129 yards and 2 TD's? LOL Are you high?
 

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Dak's contract does not hinder anything. He literally has a base of 31 million next year. You can convert all of that to bonus and spread it out.

Don't act shocked when they do just that because this was the plan all along. The 49er game does not change that.
His cap hit for 2023 is 49.13 mil
 

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I truly have no idea if Carr would be a lateral move or not. However, what we do know is that Dak just isn't it. Our team outplayed the 49ers. Dak playing very badly was the deciding factor. When the idea is moving on from a player, a replacement must be had. Carr is just one idea.

Problem is, this team is a hair away from super bowl quality. Dak's and Z's contracts are going to keep us from making that hair jump.

I did not see this unprepared team. We repeatedly knocked them in the teeth. Shut down their running game. Held their O to 1 ref aided TD. Excellent performance by this team, sabotaged by terrible QB play.
Disagree that the team (except Dak) outplayed the 49ers, respectfully that's just not true at all.
 

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Oh, if "Many others" are saying it, it must be true. lol

And many "professionals" too....lol


TB won their division, that is not barely making it. They also were the healthiest they had been in a long time this year and had the GOAT at the helm.

Sure, not as impressive as beating Daniel Freaking Jones and his newly elevated from the Practice Squad weapons...but I think it is comparable...lol
8-9 is barely making it considering TB just edged out Atlanta, New Orleans, and Carolina for the division win....by 1 game.....and limped in after going 3-4 their last 7 games of the regular season. As for the GOAT, he is 45-years old and a shell of himself for a team that has zero running game and a defense that averaged middle of the pack is most categories.
 

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His cap hit for 2023 is 49.13 mil
not his base his total is Ken is correct, but it really doesnt matter, they need to find a way to absorb as much of that as they can next year while filling a couple holes in the draft, we are not in a horrible position IF we lean on this defens and make the offense RPO/PA. I hate the idea of a full restructure to add "JAG FA's" to a system that i dont think works. That just makes a departure from Dak longer down th road if we need to move on.
 

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Oh so now we are playing semantics?

Dak's play cost us the win. Dak's fault, single biggest reasons, it's all the same. Dak's play cost us a W. Yes, it's really not anymore complicated than that. But I get it, the Dak fanboy club has really gotta work hard to minimize his effect on the game Sunday.
You said what you said, got called out on it, you changed your take and now want to speak about complications? And the main reason I said I was out was because you have nothing to contribute but name calling when anyone challenges your simple takes. Fanboy, what are you 12? The idea that you conveniently and purposely leave out all that I have said and follow it up with a cowardly insult?
I won't stoop to your pathetic level. I'm sorry what Dak did to you.
 

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not his base his total is Ken is correct, but it really doesnt matter, they need to find a way to absorb as much of that as they can next year while filling a couple holes in the draft, we are not in a horrible position IF we lean on this defens and make the offense RPO/PA. I hate the idea of a full restructure to add "JAG FA's" to a system that i dont think works. That just makes a departure from Dak longer down th road if we need to move on.
Base pay is irrelevant as far as the salary cap. Using that for argument's purposes makes your argument baseless. All that matters is the cap hit.
 

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8-9 is barely making it considering TB just edged out Atlanta, New Orleans, and Carolina for the division win....by 1 game.....and limped in after going 3-4 their last 7 games of the regular season. As for the GOAT, he is 45-years old and a shell of himself for a team that has zero running game and a defense that averaged middle of the pack is most categories.
Brady was terrible against us, and hasn't been good all year.
 

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Well he had two bad interceptions. And San Fran had been averaging around 33 points per game in the 2nd half of the season and only scored 19. They scored only one TD. McCaffery scored on a 2 yard run. That's it. That was their one TD.

The defense did their job. They held the 49ers well below their average points (and yards). They didn't let McCaffery or Deebo make any big plays. They did what was expected of them, if not more.

The one aspect of the team that really didn't sniff expectations or what he should have done? The QB. He was woeful. It really is comical that you guys can't just admit that.
I did, you're too closed minded to understand that. I've NEVER excluded Dak from blame, Ever. I've always placed criticism where it's deserved. You're just to lazy or thick to comprehend it.
Something tells be you haven't a clue about what is actually comical.
 

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Well i have seen the "professionals" who are saying these things and they are just looking for click bait. People doing real analysis are not saying those things.

Dak played bad...i am very disappointed in that. Didn't expect it at all. That does not make him a horrible player.

Go look at Brady's playoff career and count the clunkers that he had as bad or worse than Dak's. It happens.
LOL...desperation when someone compares Dak's 6 playoff games (2-4 record) to Brady's 48 playoff games (35-13 record) and 7 super bowl wins.
 

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End of game score was 19-12 in favor of SF.

Dak's 1st INT cost Dallas at least 3 points (and possibly 7 points but SF took that INT and eventually got a FG so a 6-point swing)

Dak's 2nd INT directly led to SF getting 3 points.

So at the very least Dak's 2 INT's cost Dallas 3 points, gave SF 3 points, and led to a 6-point swing......so 9 points in a close game that had it not been for Dak's 2 INT's Dallas wins 15-13.
You don't even get that you don't get it, but your emotional responses are normal when it comes to Dak.
I'm not attempting to change your mind.
 

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Well i have seen the "professionals" who are saying these things and they are just looking for click bait. People doing real analysis are not saying those things.

Dak played bad...i am very disappointed in that. Didn't expect it at all. That does not make him a horrible player.

Go look at Brady's playoff career and count the clunkers that he had as bad or worse than Dak's. It happens.
Case & point, there are other QBs that lost this year in the playoffs and had similar individual statistics as Dak.
The difference? The MSM sports world and some who refuse to think for themselves are going all in on Dak needing to be gone. I get it, it's Dallas but you would think our fanbase would be smart enough to realize this.
 
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Well both games were better than Dak's game against the very same SF defense.....hmmmm.
I guess you are admitting you were wrong the?.

Last year Dak had 260 yards 2 TD's and a pick against the NIners and you said he completely choked. LOL

Now it was a good game for Geno?

Just another example of your flip flopping agenda.
 
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