Werder: Run game was not the problem last season, Cowboys ran the football 45%

[jazzcat22]

fat mike can't come out and say dak sucks, so like all his other made-up crap, he comes up with another excuse to make up for a shaky quarterback.

Will need to see the results of the 2023 season before he can say that.
Unless by some miracle, Dak stops the INT's.

 

[doomsday9084]

3rd & 10 at DAL 38​

(1:20 - 4th) (Shotgun) D.Prescott pass incomplete deep left to N.Brown (D.Williams) [D.Smoot].

That play was against the Jaguars. We all remember it. Jags were out of timeouts. KM threw a bomb instead of running it up the middle. Probably cost the game.

When MM talks about calling plays to win instead of score, I think he is specifically talking about that play. The butterfly effect from losing that game was significant too.

 

[75boyz]

Why then did Dak not throw the bad pass? Only the Magic 8 ball knows what if questions.

It ALL has to be the 2nd and 2 empty backfield and playcall...
They leave out the DECISION to throw THAT PASS every time to blame it on Moore.

Blows my mind the forest before the trees masses here.

REGARDLESS of playcall, empty set or situation...

The QB does NOT throw that pass. PERIOD.

And yet they choose to fake like it's on Kellen.
Running, throwing the ball away to live another down or audibling into a different play to begin with for a 7 year vet QB is not even a consideration?

Again for the zillionth time,
Dak Prescott sucks at decision making in real time.

Different coaching/playcalling ain't gonna change that.

 

[USArmyVet]

When you control the clock, and have more short passing plays, and those 20 unsuccessful runs into the stacked box. An offense will run more plays, hence the higher number of runs and passes.
MM, again, depending ones agenda, was taken out of context. He could very well mean, run the ball more effectively, not the total numbers itself.

...short passing plays like the 2nd & 2 against SF that turned into a.....wait for it....INT.

 

[cowboys5xsbs]

Really did werder not watch Zeke plodding out there. Just because we ran the ball doesn't mean it was effective.

 

[Rodney308]

Funny how only a coward places blame on someone no longer in the organization but that shows you the lack of character of fat lying Mike as he came into this organization with a lie.....so he is the perfect HC as Jerry has been lying to fans for years now.

At what point in Mike's statement did he place blame? He simply said that Kellen wants to pass, and he wants to run. Doesn't sound like blame; simply sounds like a difference in offensive philosophy.

 

[jazzcat22]

...short passing plays like the 2nd & 2 against SF that turned into a.....wait for it....INT.

And many said they should have ran the ball...but no, Moore calls a passing play, and yes, Dak cost us the game.

Pollard goes down, and Dak's INT's. And other poor passes. Game over. 2 years in a row.

Many fans may think, hey, we made the playoffs in back to back years first time in a long time. But they will not address how we were bounced from the playoffs those 2 years.

A change was needed, many fans got the OC change, but not the QB change, not yet. I am soured on Dak, but not going to completely hate on him either.

 

[USArmyVet]

At what point in Mike's statement did he place blame? He simply said that Kellen wants to pass, and he wants to run. Doesn't sound like blame; simply sounds like a difference in offensive philosophy.

Dallas was ranked 6th in rush attempts so *** is fat lying Mike talking about????

 

[Rodney308]

It ALL has to be the 2nd and 2 empty backfield and playcall...
They leave out the DECISION to throw THAT PASS every time to blame it on Moore.

Blows my mind the forest before the trees masses here.

REGARDLESS of playcall, empty set or situation...

The QB does NOT throw that pass. PERIOD.

And yet they choose to fake like it's on Kellen.
Running, throwing the ball away to live another down or audibling into a different play to begin with for a 7 year vet QB is not even a consideration?

Again for the zillionth time,
Dak Prescott sucks at decision making in real time.

Different coaching/playcalling ain't gonna change that.

The play call should have NEVER been a empty backfield formation; sure the interception is on Dak, but the play call is on Moore. Even if it was to be a pass play, how bout play action; or something that is not obvious.

 

[blueblood70]

This is a bit confusing coz something isn't adding up.........timing, sequence, play design??????

I mean MM says Kellen wanted to light up the scoreboard, he wanna rub the ball........

YO ED you blind you using the total run % of calls as the barometer. Break it down more closely. jeez

17 games and the payoffs year end stats do NOT tell the entire story...

ITS NO the amount, its the run game wasn't tough and physical and very predictable ie too much run run pass run run pass, also its oh zekes in run right middle left ..poalrds in going outside. Sure occasionally he tried mixing it up BUT....


the types of runs and design of run and when they were called is the issue, He abandoned the run far too easily. yes, MM emphasized to Moore to run more in 22 and they did they spit the carries all great things, however go look at the games against better DL, lie TB, washington,49ers and others look at down the stretch. BTW numbers are skewed a bit because those 5 games dal missed FORCED Moore to run a lot more then he typically does. BTW how many ruins were called in those game against Jags and GB once we got big lead and ended up blowing said leads and losing in OT? show me those late game run stats like the 9er second half TB 2nd half.. it as if Moore used the gameplan blueprint coming into games and then just goes to pass happy pick play color by number aerial assault no matter the situations.

the yards are yards guy pops up far too often and hes gone.

what's happened in both 9er playoff games? No run game and a line than just was overmatched. 16 run plays this was Moores undoing. Not even try to use Malik davis after pollard goes out that bookends where game 1 TB zekes run for 5.2 in close game and gets TWSO, 2 carries in the 2nd half..

right, thats the issues, been the issue for while.we need to know when to run and pass not better balance that was far better in 22 then in Moore's first 3 seasons BUT he still reverted back to his old ways far too often. then add in the route trees and how they were ran ..

change was NDDED MM was being honest he gave Moore props as he should BUT a philosophical difference is just that, he wasn't fired because he sucked, they simply weren't on the same page anymore... its not quantity, its quality of the run game and an identity to just stay with it in way that compliments the defense and pass game.

they finished the season poorly in the run game even pollard had no tds in 6 straight games to close the season, last 4 RS games zero tds, 3.8 YPC, 51 YPG, and also the 9er game. this finish sealed the fate for MOORE even if its not all on his. Many O and D coaches got replaced.. they are making subtle changes and we all as fans hope it shows on the field, not JUST in the RS games , but the bigger games.

 

[Cowboyny]

I appreciate your post but disagree with the implication. They run it well. All teams that run it well also have spots where they the run game bogs down and they need to have success in passing game. I think that’s where they failed in crunch time.

I don’t think they will change scheme. Do you? I think it’s more lip service and blame game at work here but I hope I’m wrong. Do you expect change or just hope for it? Would love to hear your answer on that.

They are definitely changing their scheme, especially coming up ways to run the football better. It’s hard for any QB to throw the football when teams are playing extra men in coverage and can also pin their ears back and rush the QB without any threat from a ground game. Just look what happened to Brady this season and even how Patrick MaHomes struggled two years ago when they couldn’t run the football. Now look at who Dak was throwing the football to: Lamb was legit, Shultz is ok, but Noah Brown? After those 3 got nothing out of the group if receivers. Dak played poor against the 49ers, but so many also do, they were giving up 10 points a game. Losing Pollard made it virtually impossible especially Zeke is done and Moore didn’t even tried to run after his injury. Better scheme, better personnel and the we can legitimately evaluate Dak. I believe despite the turnovers, Dak did a good job of what he had to work with. Have to cut down those turnovers and become more efficient

 

[jujoboys]

This is a bit confusing coz something isn't adding up.........timing, sequence, play design??????

I mean MM says Kellen wanted to light up the scoreboard, he wanna rub the ball........

When it mattered - San Francisco playoff game - 38 pass plays and 22 Run Plays = 63% pass. The only drive that we scored a TD on we ran the ball 7 times and passed the ball 7 times on that 14 play drive. Eliminate that drive and we passed the ball 31 times and run the ball 15 times. Of course some of that was due to losing Pollard to injury and Zeke being ineffective. Moore was great at running the ball when we were blowing teams out.

In the 6 losses we had this year we had 253 passing plays and 147 running plays and some of those running plays could have been scrambles by Dak. That is 63% passing plays in the games we lost. Moore tended to abandon the running game when the pressure was on. Easy to run the ball when you have big leads like in the wins.

 

[Rodney308]

Dallas was ranked 6th in rush attempts so *** is fat lying Mike talking about????

It's not as simple as looking at where Dallas ranked in rushing attempts. But I'll put my money with a Super Bowl winning coach.

 

[blueblood70]

It’s situational playcalling and predictable playcalling. Running the same play out of the formation on the same down.

100...

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

This is a bit confusing coz something isn't adding up.........timing, sequence, play design??????

I mean MM says Kellen wanted to light up the scoreboard, he wanna rub the ball........

its about balance and looking at final stats, is not the right way. you have to look at the ratio when the the game is within one score or less.

 

[blueblood70]

When it mattered - San Francisco playoff game - 38 pass plays and 22 Run Plays = 63% pass. The only drive that we scored a TD on we ran the ball 7 times and passed the ball 7 times on that 14 play drive. Eliminate that drive and we passed the ball 31 times and run the ball 15 times. Of course some of that was due to losing Pollard to injury and Zeke being ineffective. Moore was great at running the ball when we were blowing teams out.

In the 6 losses we had this year we had 253 passing plays and 147 running plays and some of those running plays could have been scrambles by Dak. That is 63% passing plays in the games we lost. Moore tended to abandon the running game when the pressure was on. Easy to run the ball when you have big leads like in the wins.

we all saw it but ED says we good. he must be correct,

 

[USArmyVet]

It's not as simple as looking at where Dallas ranked in rushing attempts. But I'll put my money with a Super Bowl winning coach.

Last 5 Super Bowl winners were ranked 20th or lower in rush attempts......so there's that.

 

[Retro88]

Nobody said the running game was a problem. Still doesn't change that we should run more.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

fat mike can't come out and say dak sucks, so like all his other made-up crap, he comes up with another excuse to make up for a shaky quarterback.

He went from Farve, to Rodgers, ..........................................to Dak....

What a fall from grace lol

 

[speedkilz88]