What are the odds of Terry Glenn coming back?

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bbgun;2072696 said:
Yet we all know that guys like RW or Boldin would have replaced Terry, not complemented him. When it comes to #83, we're hopeful, not stupid.

Ironically, what we really need is another Terry Glenn, but no receiver of note can be had for a mere 6th round pick.
I think if he was 100% healthy and played 17 games last season, he'd still be looking to replace one of his two 34+ year old receivers with a guy like Roy Williams -- i.e., a 20-something proven WR.
 

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theogt;2072686 said:
He was high on Glenn returning long before that. He's been high on him returning all offseason -- which only makes sense considering he played the last 2 games.

He played but he was an absolute non-factor.

In my opinion, putting him in the lineup seemed to disrupt the offense more than improve it.

Again, I'd put Terry Glenn in the Pacman category as far as this:

Consider anything he brings as a bonus but do not count on him!
 

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It could well be Jerry's efforts to lessen expectations that we will add a vet WR. It may also be an effort to ensure another team doesn't take advantage of our perceived desperation & up the asking price for the WR they might be willing trade to us. OTOH, it might also be part of Jerry being considerate of vet WR in allowing Glenn to believe there will be a place on the Cowboys roster for him if he shows he can play. Jerry's comment that its 50-50 re Glenn returning supports all 3 ideas.

The NFL is a business & Jerry as a GM has trade/cut/retired players if it helps the Cowboys. Glenn desperately wants to return for 1 final season to help (be a big part of) the Cowboys winning the SB. He's doing everything he physically/mentally can to come back; we all know Jerry plays the odds. Considering how much Glenn can help us--even if odds are very thin--Jerry will give him time. He's got nothing to lose cause I believe Jerry makes the trade/signs a vet WR if he becomes available no matter what happens re Glenn. Heck, Jerry has played a lot worse odds & won. Jerry probably also believes either Lions or Cincy change their minds as TC rolls around.
 

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stasheroo;2072704 said:
He played but he was an absolute non-factor.

In my opinion, putting him in the lineup seemed to disrupt the offense more than improve it.

Again, I'd put Terry Glenn in the Pacman category as far as this:

Consider anything he brings as a bonus but do not count on him!

I am curious. In what way do you feel he disrupted the offense. He didnt play that many snaps so I dont think he could have been involved enough to disrupt it.
 

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You know, someone else mentioned how we got Terry Glenn for a sixth.

Sometimes silly things happen in this league. There may be some quality receivers - not necessarily stars - who come available as we get closer to the season. You just can't tell on these things.

As for Terry Glenn coming back, I think 50/50 is right on the money.
 

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ddh33;2072735 said:
You know, someone else mentioned how we got Terry Glenn for a sixth.

Sometimes silly things happen in this league. There may be some quality receivers - not necessarily stars - who come available as we get closer to the season. You just can't tell on these things.

As for Terry Glenn coming back, I think 50/50 is right on the money.


Yep that 6 we sent to gb was sent to sf and used on punter Andy Lee who is very good.

We got alot out of that trade. And it seems to me parcells pulled two more of those types of trades while in miami recently when he got ferguson for a 6 and fasano/ayodele for a 4.

Yet some still question the guy.
 

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theebs;2072729 said:
I am curious. In what way do you feel he disrupted the offense. He didnt play that many snaps so I dont think he could have been involved enough to disrupt it.

I'm not inferring that he was somehow directly responsible for the offensive struggles late in the season, but his presence sure didn't add anything.

If I remember correctly, the team's two worst offensive showings were with Glenn back on the field.

I was concerned that the team might force him back into the lineup, thereby disrupting what had been working up until that point.

Obviously, I can't say with any certainty that Glenn was a detriment, but I can say that he sure wasn't a help.

I didn't see him bring any sort of improvement to the team whatsoever.

Whether that's attributable to Glenn being rusty, not being 100%, not being comfortable in the offense, Owen's health or whatever.

I remember all of the great 'talk' last year about how good Glenn looked in practice leading up to his return only to see him do nothing when he got back.

I don't want to see a repeat in 2008.
 

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:banghead: Don't waste your time. Terry Glenn's time here is over. Thanks for times he was not injured, the long passes from Bledsoe, especially that Eagles game at Dallas in 2005 when we passed all over them. Maybe Jerry can find a job for you.:D
 

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theebs;2072739 said:
Yep that 6 we sent to gb was sent to sf and used on punter Andy Lee who is very good.

We got alot out of that trade. And it seems to me parcells pulled two more of those types of trades while in miami recently when he got ferguson for a 6 and fasano/ayodele for a 4.

Yet some still question the guy.


Jacob Rogers, Steven Peterman, Vinnie Testaverde, Richie Anderson, Jason Fabini, and a host of other worn out Jet/Cowboys agree completely. how can you possibly question the guy?
 

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theebs;2072739 said:
Yep that 6 we sent to gb was sent to sf and used on punter Andy Lee who is very good.

We got alot out of that trade. And it seems to me parcells pulled two more of those types of trades while in miami recently when he got ferguson for a 6 and fasano/ayodele for a 4.

Yet some still question the guy.

some always will. what about the masses that do realize parcells put us in a great position whether we like him or not?

the entire world is never going to see 1 thing the same way but that's who we (myself included) spends the bulk of our time arguing with. :)
 

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I would say that if you are relying on Terry Glenn to be a big part of the offense, then you are in trouble. But the Cowboys would be fine without him. So basically anything he contributes is a bonus.
 

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Skinsmaniac;2072852 said:
I would say that if you are relying on Terry Glenn to be a big part of the offense, then you are in trouble. But the Cowboys would be fine without him. So basically anything he contributes is a bonus.


Pretty much how I view it too. We did fine last season with Owens and Crayton starting. And in reality, Witten is our #2 option....

And if you view it like that (Owens as the #1, Witten as the #2, and Crayton putting up TE like numbers.... things look better). Of course, I'd like tup upgrade the talent at WR (and get younger), but we'll be fine if we head into the year with the same cast.
 

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He'll be back at some point.

Odds on playing every regular season game: 20-1.

jmo
 

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NorthDalal;2072821 said:
Jacob Rogers, Steven Peterman, Vinnie Testaverde, Richie Anderson, Jason Fabini, and a host of other worn out Jet/Cowboys agree completely. how can you possibly question the guy?


Ok man. your right. How could I possibly argue?
 

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In terms of Stanback, what other college QBs have successfully made the transition to WR? Matt Jones was/is a flop, but Randle El made it. Any others? I'm trying to gauge just how high a mountain he has to climb.
 

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bbgun;2072897 said:
In terms of Stanback, what other college QBs have successfully made the transition to WR? Matt Jones was/is a flop, but Randle El made it. Any others? I'm trying to gauge just how high a mountain he has to climb.

If Matt Jones had been drafted in the fourth round, everyone would think it was a nice deal for everyone. Because he's a first rounder, he's a flop.

I think Stanback will be fine, but I wonder what expectations are from some fans. It seems like some expect 75 catches right now.
 

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NorthDalal;2072821 said:
Jacob Rogers, Steven Peterman, Vinnie Testaverde, Richie Anderson, Jason Fabini, and a host of other worn out Jet/Cowboys agree completely. how can you possibly question the guy?

Richie Anderson did pretty well, I thought, in his time here. Fumble in the 2003 playoff game not included.
 

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bbgun;2072897 said:
In terms of Stanback, what other college QBs have successfully made the transition to WR? Matt Jones was/is a flop, but Randle El made it. Any others? I'm trying to gauge just how high a mountain he has to climb.

Hines Ward, Brad Smith, Ron Curry...

It can be done. Jones would have done it, but he has a terrible work ethic. He'd have flopped at any position.

(Though I'd probably still take Jones for a cheap enough price.)

Has anyone looked into what post-June 1 cuts might be available? I know teams rarely cut many guys then anymore, but I wonder if there might be any decent vets available.

I still say that the Pats won three Super Bowls with a bunch of no-name non-stars at WR. As long as you have a good enough QB, you don't need stars at WR.

I would take a decent vet pickup, though.
 
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