What are the odds of Terry Glenn coming back?

[bbgun]

Hines Ward, Brad Smith, Ron Curry...

Never knew that about Ward.

I would take a decent vet pickup, though.

I was lobbying for Laverneus Coles back in January but then he re-upped with the Jets.

 

[Hostile]

In terms of Stanback, what other college QBs have successfully made the transition to WR? Matt Jones was/is a flop, but Randle El made it. Any others? I'm trying to gauge just how high a mountain he has to climb.

Drew Pearson
Hines Ward
Donald Curry
Patrick Crayton
Matt Jones
Antwan Randle El

I'm sure I'm forgetting a few.

 

[bbgun]

Kordell Stewart too, though he never gave up the QB role.

 

[theogt]

Anquan Boldin played QB (in addition to WR) in college as well.

 

[links18]

I wonder why they never tried Woody Dantzler at WR?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Hines Ward, Brad Smith, Ron Curry...

It can be done. Jones would have done it, but he has a terrible work ethic. He'd have flopped at any position.

(Though I'd probably still take Jones for a cheap enough price.)

Has anyone looked into what post-June 1 cuts might be available? I know teams rarely cut many guys then anymore, but I wonder if there might be any decent vets available.

I still say that the Pats won three Super Bowls with a bunch of no-name non-stars at WR. As long as you have a good enough QB, you don't need stars at WR.

I would take a decent vet pickup, though.

the problem w/ that thinking, is that the Pats used a short to medium passing attack during that timeframe, our passing game is a vertical one, so we need good receivers who can seperate, but I'm not worried much, Witten and Bennett should open up alot of things deep, not to mention Felix Jones' potential in the passing game

 

[Eskimo]

In terms of Stanback, what other college QBs have successfully made the transition to WR? Matt Jones was/is a flop, but Randle El made it. Any others? I'm trying to gauge just how high a mountain he has to climb.

Jones and Randle El's production is actually pretty similar over their first 3 years. I don't see why one was a huge success and the other a failure. I think Jones not breaking out may have more to do with the coaching staff than his ability.

 

[Eskimo]

Hines Ward, Brad Smith, Ron Curry...

It can be done. Jones would have done it, but he has a terrible work ethic. He'd have flopped at any position.

(Though I'd probably still take Jones for a cheap enough price.)

Has anyone looked into what post-June 1 cuts might be available? I know teams rarely cut many guys then anymore, but I wonder if there might be any decent vets available.

I still say that the Pats won three Super Bowls with a bunch of no-name non-stars at WR. As long as you have a good enough QB, you don't need stars at WR.

I would take a decent vet pickup, though.

Romo is no Brady, though. He is good but not that good. He makes too many mistakes and I doubt that is somthing that will be corrected over time.

 

[Stash]

Jones and Randle El's production is actually pretty similar over their first 3 years. I don't see why one was a huge success and the other a failure. I think Jones not breaking out may have more to do with the coaching staff than his ability.

Glad I'm not the only person who entertains that thought.

All the blame seems to be thrown on Jones while nobody looks at the fact that the Jags have yet to develop a quality receiver on their own.

The guy was asked to make a dramatic position change and was given lousy coaching to help him do it.

But 'Matt Jones is a lazy bust' is easier to type than actually thinking it through I guess.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I think Jones not breaking out may have more to do with the coaching staff than his ability.

His problems are strictly from the neck up.

 

[Stash]

His problems are strictly from the neck up.

Unlike all of the other great receivers the Jaguars have developed lately.....

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Jones and Randle El's production is actually pretty similar over their first 3 years. I don't see why one was a huge success and the other a failure. I think Jones not breaking out may have more to do with the coaching staff than his ability.

Glad I'm not the only person who entertains that thought.

All the blame seems to be thrown on Jones while nobody looks at the fact that the Jags have yet to develop a quality receiver on their own.

The guy was asked to make a dramatic position change and was given lousy coaching to help him do it.

But 'Matt Jones is a lazy bust' is easier to type than actually thinking it through I guess.

I read that work ethic was a huge knock coming out of Arkansas, and why he was so streaky as a QB, that he didn't pay enough attention to detail and technique, and playing WR is alot about technique

 

[Stash]

I read that work ethic was a huge knock coming out of Arkansas, and why he was so streaky as a QB, that he didn't pay enough attention to detail and technique, and playing WR is alot about technique

No doubt about that. Detail and technique are huge for the receiver position. And for as much criticism as Jones seems to get, why do some let the Jaguars get off the hook? I don't see where they've developed any quality receivers lately, not just Jones.

And I feel Sherman would be the best position coach Jones has ever had and could get more out of him and his ability than the Jaguars have.

And the guy has just turned 25 years old. I think it's too early to completely write him off.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Jones and Randle El's production is actually pretty similar over their first 3 years. I don't see why one was a huge success and the other a failure. I think Jones not breaking out may have more to do with the coaching staff than his ability.

Well... No question about that.

To tell you the truth, I'm not even 100% sold on Romo, as heretical as it is to say. But if he's not good to great, then we aren't winning a Super Bowl anyway.

As far as Matt Jones goes... I'd definitely take him. No, he hasn't been very good, but I'd take a chance on that kind of athletic ability.

Don't know what summer was talking about re: Jones at QB. He was an excellent college QB. But there's not much to study when you run that read option offense.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

No doubt about that. Detail and technique are huge for the receiver position. And for as much criticism as Jones seems to get, why do some let the Jaguars get off the hook? I don't see where they've developed any quality receivers lately, not just Jones.

And I feel Sherman would be the best position coach Jones has ever had and could get more out of him and his ability than the Jaguars have.

And the guy has just turned 25 years old. I think it's too early to completely write him off.

that would be the only silver lining, along w/ his talent, havng Sherman here, he would really help him alot

what I find funny is that the Jags brought in the perennially inconsistent Troy WIlliamson if they are worried about Jones' inconsistencies

Well... No question about that.

To tell you the truth, I'm not even 100% sold on Romo, as heretical as it is to say. But if he's not good to great, then we aren't winning a Super Bowl anyway.

As far as Matt Jones goes... I'd definitely take him. No, he hasn't been very good, but I'd take a chance on that kind of athletic ability.

Don't know what summer was talking about re: Jones at QB. He was an excellent college QB. But there's not much to study when you run that read option offense.

too streaky is what I read when he came out, threw off his backfoot alot, mechanics were shoddy

 

[Stash]

As far as Matt Jones goes... I'd definitely take him. No, he hasn't been very good, but I'd take a chance on that kind of athletic ability.

Again, I would ask people what receiver has been good in Jacksonville for the past several years?

The guy is only 25 years old and has a salary of $625,000 for this season.

Does he have a 'laid-back' approach? Sure.

But the guy has shown glimpses of what he's capable of, including an 8 catch 138 yard game in Week 17 of last year.

For the late round draft pick Jacksonville would take for him?

Is it really too much to risk?

 

[Stash]

that would be the only silver lining, along w/ his talent, having Sherman here, he would really help him alot

If Dallas had a mediocre coach, it might not be worth it but with Sherman's extensive resume, I think he could maximize Jones' talents. And his versatility as an athlete might appeal to Garrett as well.

what I find funny is that the Jags brought in the perennially inconsistent Troy WIlliamson if they are worried about Jones' inconsistencies

I would attribute that to Mike Tice as much as anything.

Parcells like 'his guys'. Tice likes 'his guys'.

Familiarity is huge in the NFL.

 

[Joe Realist]

Again, I would ask people what receiver has been good in Jacksonville for the past several years?

The guy is only 25 years old and has a salary of $625,000 for this season.

Does he have a 'laid-back' approach? Sure.

But the guy has shown glimpses of what he's capable of, including an 8 catch 138 yard game in Week 17 of last year.

For the late round draft pick Jacksonville would take for him?

Is it really too much to risk?

Personally I like that Reggie Williams guy on Jacksonville. Good size (6'4" I think) and young (maybe 26) who has yet to realize his potential.

 

[Wolfpack]

OMG...another 13 pages of Matt Bust Jones.

 

[Stash]

Personally I like that Reggie Williams guy on Jacksonville. Good size (6'4" I think) and young (maybe 26) who has yet to realize his potential.

Kinda proves my point.

You can say that about all of Jacksonville's receivers.

If it was one guy? Fine. Point all of the blame at Matt Jones.

But it isn't.