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What do you think the Cowboys should offer Dak?


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The problem here is that your second and third options (offer Dak something he'll never accept) are the same as your fourth and fifth options. If they plan to lowball him, they either intend to have him play on the tag or exit as a free agent.
They've already offered him a contract that was not a lowball, so I'm not really getting your point.
 

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Those voting for him to play on tag........careful what you ask for. Oddsmakers have us a top 5 favorite to win the Super Bowl. When you consider he has a new coach, a new toy, better D, it's not a reach at all. Now imagine getting there and Dak's a free agent ( yes I'm ware they could tag again ) we now have to try and sign AFTER Mahomes and Watson deals. What do you think $35M will look like then?

Don't even think about trading him......you don't trade a young Super Bowl QB.

My point, SIGN HIM NOW! I don't wanna take chance on his value getting any higher than $35-36M.

Im convinced Jerah has already decided to tag him. That's what I would do as well. If Dak takes us to a SB next season then you obviously will pay him. Im not convinced Dak is capable of leading this team to a SB. If we win a SB with Dak it will be because we have a dominant run game and a good defense. Dak is a bus driver nothing more. Tag and trade him gives us the best value. What makes you think Dak is " a young Super Bowl QB " Dalton can hold down the fort until we draft the next guy.
 

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We have that issue either way. Dak and CAA want a three year deal. So regardless, we are going to face that situation in the short term either way you look at it.

Ever think about the most likely origin of CAA putting into the public domain that they want a 3 year deal?

They already know along term deal is a non-runner and is not on the table. The way they see it, Dallas can keep him for another 2 years on the tag with no year to year risk, but with a heavy guaranteed salary price tag in each year. They're trying to move the Cowboys from 2 to 3 years with a lower per annum guaranteed portion (than the annual tag amount) of the contract in exchange for the longer deal. Contract can be announced as whatever stupid amount you can think of because they'll pad it with unattainable bonuses.
 

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If dalton costs 3 million , then 15 Mil is more than fair for Dak . Dak was not a factor in all games against winning records , nor when the run game was stopped by opposition)g defenses .
Defense is key to reach Super Bowls , not a mediocre QB who wants to bankrupt the team coz he thinks he is at par with mahomes and Wilson . Stats are for fools ... it is a W/L game and Super Bowls are all what people care about or remember .
 

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If dalton costs 3 million , then 15 Mil is more than fair for Dak . Dak was not a factor in all games against winning records , nor when the run game was stopped by opposition)g defenses .
Defense is key to reach Super Bowls , not a mediocre QB who wants to bankrupt the team coz he thinks he is at par with mahomes and Wilson . Stats are for fools ... it is a W/L game and Super Bowls are all what people care about or remember .
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The problem here is that your second and third options (offer Dak something he'll never accept) are the same as your fourth and fifth options. If they plan to lowball him, they either intend to have him play on the tag or exit as a free agent.
Bingo.

We have a winner.

Hold on to your cards until we confirm.

Thanx.

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Who thinks 35 is a lowball? I haven't seen that. Some think that if (as has been hinted at) he's asking for $45M--or an overall $37M AAV--to sign on for the fifth year, they should give it to him, but that's not the same as calling the current (reported) offer a lowball. Offering him $25-29, an option in the poll, is an obvious lowball that would be rejected out of hand.

I think Dak should do whatever he thinks is in his best interest. I also think the Cowboys made a pretty big mistake not getting an extension done last year. I also think he'll be signed by July 15, but I don't think that with a super-high degree of confidence.

I don't think the Cowboys should increase the 5th year. I think they should put the deal they believe is fair and ride with that. It would seem that that deal is 35 AAV, which I would agree with. I believe that's more then fair, to be honest. More then I would pay but Jerry has always overpaid players so I guess I'm not really surprised. I would not pay the extra for the 5th year. I see no reason to do it really. I think you just put that deal out there and let that be the offer or let Dak ride on the tag.

Fact is, I haven't really seen anything under 30 discussed since early on in the extension talk (2018), which never took place. Since, it's always been in the 30 to 35 area but that's only what I remember. I mean, it could have happened, this under 30 stuff but I can't say that I really remember it much. Certainly in most of the recent threads, it's never been anything close to that number.

So again, if the offer is 35 AAV over 5 years, say 110 guaranteed, you are of the opinion that Dak should sign that deal? Is that your opinion or do I have that wrong?
 

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So why not face it now, rather than risking the chance of him getting to the NFCCG or Super Bowl and increasing his value. Guess I'm saying, lock him now, even if it's only 3-4 years and save $$$. Honestly, if he's refusing to sign a 5-year deal now, he sure as hell not signing with an increasing market value.

Well, it's far from a guarantee that he will get to a Conference Championship or Super Bowl. If he does, then he immediately changes his current situation, his current value. I have no problem with that but lets be honest, it's not as if he is guaranteed to get any certain dollar value, just because a Mahomes or whomever does. He's already asking for a contract that far exceeds any QB playing who have already achieved all of these career landmarks. Honestly, Dak has shown that it doesn't really matter what he is able to accomplish. He's going to ask for whatever he wants, regardless of if he is able to actually win. If nothing else is clear to me, that is clear to me.

There is a reason Dak has asked for such a ridiculous 5th year amount. He is not serious about signing for a 5th year, IMO. I mean, if we are honest, all of this is simply a negotiation ploy because there is never going to be 5th year, so long as Dak is in Dallas. What will happen, IMO, is that in the 4th year, this will all get renegotiated. All this latest demand does is make it very painful for the team to walk away from an extension. It gives Dak leverage in the renegotiation IMO. Dak doesn't want a 5th year. That, at least to me, is very clear.
 

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Dak's side wants 4 years. Cowboys want a 5th year.

This is not accurate. Dak and CAA want 3 years and that's been stated. He has agreed to 4 but that's not what he wants. He will take 4 years at whatever deal but the team does not want 4 years, they want 5 and Dak and CAA already know this, which is why they put the excessive 5th year price out there. They know it's excessive and I suspect they don't believe the team will meet their counter so if that is accurate, what we will eventually see, IMO, is Dak on the Tag and a revert back to the three year requirement from Dak's agent.

My original statement is not inaccurate. Dak's team wants 3 years.
 

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Ever think about the most likely origin of CAA putting into the public domain that they want a 3 year deal?

They already know along term deal is a non-runner and is not on the table. The way they see it, Dallas can keep him for another 2 years on the tag with no year to year risk, but with a heavy guaranteed salary price tag in each year. They're trying to move the Cowboys from 2 to 3 years with a lower per annum guaranteed portion (than the annual tag amount) of the contract in exchange for the longer deal. Contract can be announced as whatever stupid amount you can think of because they'll pad it with unattainable bonuses.

Yes. In fact, I've stated multiple times that CAA and Dak want a three year deal. I agree with that 100% and they've stated that they want a three year deal.
 

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This is not accurate. Dak and CAA want 3 years and that's been stated. He has agreed to 4 but that's not what he wants. He will take 4 years at whatever deal but the team does not want 4 years, they want 5 and Dak and CAA already know this, which is why they put the excessive 5th year price out there. They know it's excessive and I suspect they don't believe the team will meet their counter so if that is accurate, what we will eventually see, IMO, is Dak on the Tag and a revert back to the three year requirement from Dak's agent.

My original statement is not inaccurate. Dak's team wants 3 years.


https://syndication.bleacherreport....ct-cowboys-offer-surpasses-goff-deal.amp.html
 

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How does this article prove that what I said is not factual? Do you deny that Dak and CAA originally wanted a 3 year deal and then agreed to a year deal in exchange for more money? Do you agree that the team is not interested in a year deal?

Why is it that you seem to want to always argue over the simplest things? Again I ask, did you not voice a desire to discontinue discussion, in general, with me? I see no reason for you to go back on that. We don't seem to agree on much. I am certain that what I state previously was fairly easy to understand, accurate and easily confirmed and yet, you argue the point. For what reason?

No good comes from our discussions. Only adolescent back and fourth, over minor things. There is no value here and I am not interested in continuing on in this practice.
 
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