What Is Wrong in Dallas WON'T get fixed

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links18;3093312 said:
I second that. Anyone telling another poster to leave should be shown the door themselves. Unacceptable bush league crappola.....

I could be wrong but I think the poster meant he no longer has to be a fan if he doesn't like it. I don't think he meant he should leave the forum.
 

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dadymat;3093309 said:
anytime they lose (or win in this case) people will point out problems.....but Jerry had nothing to do with todays pathetic display.....Barber fumble, RW drop,Romo int and missed FG did

Do you really think I'm just looking at 1 game? I'm looking at a season and where it is headed. I'm looking at the same signs we see every year where Jerry can't get out of the way. As I said, I'll be happy to be wrong, but when the owner comes out publicly for a particular player to get the ball more, especially when your team ISN'T 0-6 like Tennessee was, that owner is the guy who is an idiot. (only in the football sense). He could easily mention that to Garrett in private, but instead goes public. Jerry Jones isn't happy unless he is at the center of every picture he exists in.
 

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BHendri5;3093320 said:
oh brother, another astronaut and his Jerry Jones rant. These guys have not learned by now that blaming or complaining about Jerry is w waste of their time and energy. Please let it go. Jerry is not going anywhere and Personally I do not want him to change at all.

Well, I would like for him to change his philosophy of hiring these old recycled coaches.

I'm not an astronaut :), and it's no rant. I've been on record about it for a long time. I just get reminded of it again today when our head coach isn't the one discussing a play with the official and stands expressionless while his assistants go at it with him standing right there.

do you really think that I think Jerry is going somewhere? In fact, I do not.

He is here to stay, and so is this way of running an NFL football team. And the beat goes on.
 

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rcaldw;3093255 said:
You leaving? I'm not going anywhere. But I'm also right, and if you knew a little bit about how successful NFL teams have functioned, like, FOREVER, you would know that Jerry Jones' way makes a mess of a football team.

Yes, we are 7-3, and we will be 8-3 after Thanksgiving. That's better than the Lions and Browns, and a whole lot of other teams, but I always thought the goal was the Super Bowl?

This team isn't going to the Super Bowl the way it is functioning, period.
You don't know where this team is going. Only one team will win the Super Bowl and only two will make it there. It's real easy to be right when you say team X isn't going. Way to go out on a limb.
 

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Cajuncowboy;3093327 said:
I could be wrong but I think the poster meant he no longer has to be a fan if he doesn't like it. I don't think he meant he should leave the forum.

Whatever the poster meant it is an immature way to deal with an opinion that you can ignore if you don't like it. If you wish to engage it, then make a cogent argument, don't just attack me. :)
 

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rcaldw;3093224 said:
Sorry, guys, and I'm sure many will vent their spleen here, but I've watched enough of it to be convinced.

We will all continue to cheer for our team, hope for the best, etc., but what is wrong with this team will not get fixed for a long time.

What is wrong is Jerry Jones, and he isn't going anywhere.

The play that captured it for me was the controversy over Campbell stepping out of bounds before the throw. The camera zooms in on the official, he has come over to the sideline to explain what is going on to the coaches.

There is Wade, there is Campo, and there is some other assistant that I don't recognize. All 3 standing in front of the official. Who is the official giving the explanation to and getting an earful from? The assistant standing behind Phillips.

This team has no real head coach. This team has no real leadership from its coaching staff.

You have Jerry taking a page from Bud Adams and Commander boy telling his offensive coordinator who needs to get the ball more. Felix.

Until Jerry Jones steps aside the Cowboys are what the Cowboys will be.

Organized around the wrong guy.... Jerry

A similar feeling was had about the Cardinals last year, and then they end up in the Bowl. We just have to be playing our best football in December. I'll take a W anyway we can pre-December.
 

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rcaldw;3093332 said:
Do you really think I'm just looking at 1 game? I'm looking at a season and where it is headed. I'm looking at the same signs we see every year where Jerry can't get out of the way. As I said, I'll be happy to be wrong, but when the owner comes out publicly for a particular player to get the ball more, especially when your team ISN'T 0-6 like Tennessee was, that owner is the guy who is an idiot. (only in the football sense). He could easily mention that to Garrett in private, but instead goes public. Jerry Jones isn't happy unless he is at the center of every picture he exists in.


Ok...so Jerry gets your blame for the 3 losses...then give him credit for the 7 wins..........as for where it is headed....im not psychic...and neither are you....

its clear you just have hatred for Jerry...but it is misplaced on this day
 

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Boyzmamacita;3093355 said:
You don't know where this team is going. Only one team will win the Super Bowl and only two will make it there. It's real easy to be right when you say team X isn't going. Way to go out on a limb.

Tell me the last owner to have a Super Bowl winner who was a meddler?

I can name two that I can think of.

Al Davis. And his last Super Bowl win was when?

Al Davis Jr. (Jerry), who WASN'T a meddler when Jimmy was here, and won one with Barry on the strength of Jimmy's team.

Who is the next one? That was 15 years ago.
 

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dadymat;3093367 said:
Ok...so Jerry gets your blame for the 3 losses...then give him credit for the 7 wins..........as for where it is headed....im not psychic...and neither are you....

its clear you just have hatred for Jerry...but it is misplaced on this day



BINGO - and it's DOCUMENTED this user literally HATES Jerry Jones.


But we still get to debate that all over again.



BTW: It's debating that constantly all over again that gets to some of us. I might try bringing a diff thread topic next time, that's just me though.
 

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dadymat;3093367 said:
Ok...so Jerry gets your blame for the 3 losses...then give him credit for the 7 wins..........as for where it is headed....im not psychic...and neither are you....

its clear you just have hatred for Jerry...but it is misplaced on this day

I don't have hatred for Jerry, I have hatred for Jerry the "football man", imaginary Jerry.

Jerry the promoter. Jerry the fan, I think is "all in".
 

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Cajuncowboy;3093327 said:
I could be wrong but I think the poster meant he no longer has to be a fan if he doesn't like it. I don't think he meant he should leave the forum.

Zero excuse. The poster called "Dallas" deserves some scrutiny by the mods.
 

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rcaldw;3093377 said:
Tell me the last owner to have a Super Bowl winner who was a meddler?

I can name two that I can think of.

Al Davis. And his last Super Bowl win was when?

Al Davis Jr. (Jerry), who WASN'T a meddler when Jimmy was here, and won one with Barry on the strength of Jimmy's team.

Who is the next one? That was 15 years ago.

You're not the only one who can predict the future. I predict that the Cowboys will win another Super Bowl with Jerry Jones as the owner. SOON. When (not if) it happens, what will you do then? Pretend you never said this crap? Just try to enjoy a big division win for YOUR team.
 

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Dallas;3093380 said:
BINGO - and it's DOCUMENTED this user literally HATES Jerry Jones.


But we still get to debate that all over again.



BTW: It's debating that constantly all over again that gets to some of us. I might try bringing a diff thread topic next time, that's just me though.

Hey fella, if you don't enjoy a discussion about this, why do you participate? I'm just asking? It is ONE thread. There are many, many other ones on here.

I've shared an opinion. Its my honest opinion. I'm frustrated as a Cowboys fan from the 1960's. I've shared that frustration. You obviously disagree.

I'm waiting for the first Super Bowl doing it Jerry's way. When it happens, I'll be glad to say you were right and I was wrong.
 

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rcaldw;3093385 said:
I don't have hatred for Jerry, I have hatred for Jerry the "football man", imaginary Jerry.

Jerry the promoter. Jerry the fan, I think is "all in".

since 2004 name things that Jerry has done that hurt the team.....RW11 isnt lookin like a good trade but what else?.....and dont make a list of opinions give me facts
 

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T-RO;3093388 said:
Zero excuse. The poster called "Dallas" deserves some scrutiny by the mods.

For what? Saying he doesn't have to be a Cowboy fan if he doesnt like they way the owner is running things? That's an opinion just as much as anyone's.
 

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Does Jerry make mistakes?I think the answer is yes.Is Jerry at the root of all that plaugues this team?No.

Wade is ultimately resposible for this team and even at 8-3 I don't think he's the man for the job.Why?I just don't think Wade is one that preaches attention to detail.I just believe that lack of attention results in things like stupid penalties and allowing 3rd and forever conversions.Is it all Wade's fault?Absolutely not,but he is part of the problem.In Wade's defense this team was stupid even when Parcells was here.

Garrett,there has been so much banter about Garrett that I don't know where to start.I really don't have a gripe with Garrett or his playcalling for the most part.It's hard to have a consistent offense when you have penalties,turnovers or a player taking a snap off.Garrett still intrigues me as a coach because some of his schemes are brilliant,while some others are bafflling.After today it seems this teams needs to pass and establish some tempo before trying to establish a power running game though.

Craig
 

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rcaldw;3093405 said:
Hey fella, if you don't enjoy a discussion about this, why do you participate? I'm just asking? It is ONE thread. There are many, many other ones on here.

I've shared an opinion. Its my honest opinion. I'm frustrated as a Cowboys fan from the 1960's. I've shared that frustration. You obviously disagree.

I'm waiting for the first Super Bowl doing it Jerry's way. When it happens, I'll be glad to say you were right and I was wrong.

he has won 3 ...but you discredit him for it....if he wins another you wont give him credit for it either
 

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T-RO;3093388 said:
Zero excuse. The poster called "Dallas" deserves some scrutiny by the mods.

Scrutiny? Because I call it what it is?


Jerry Jones throws the ball - its his fault

Jerry Jones doesn't catch the ball - its his fault

Jerry Jones isn't getting us a good running game - more his fault




Seriously? Look Jerry Jones does whatever it takes to win and it's his multi-billion dollar operation. Remember where the Cowboys are at in the world BECAUSE of Jerry Jones.


Good lord - you act like Jerry doesn't care to win and just wants to do w/e it takes to ruin this team.

Im just calling BS and it gets very very OLD when so called fans start it up again about its all JJ's fault and somehow my topic is going to matter when we all know full well Jerry Jones isn't going anywhere.

What a waste of time and energy.

If you can't hack it - get your jacket.

That's all Im saying. Nobody is holding a gun to these fans heads who post this constant hate w/ the owner and the team.
 

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rcaldw;3093377 said:
Tell me the last owner to have a Super Bowl winner who was a meddler?

Can you tell us that you have a vast expanse of knowledge about every other owner in the league?

Saying things on the Internet doesn't make them true. No matter how hard you want it to be.
 
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