What Kind of Sense Does This Make?

[Verdict]

I think very highly of romo. Very. I like him a lot. It doesn't mean I'm foolish enough to think he's in Rodgers' class, because he absolutely is not...and it's not close.

I think there are about 5 or 6 QBs in the league that you could mix or match and be fine with. Romo is one of those QB's. Peyton Manning and Tom Brady are two of those QB's but neither of them are as dominant as they used to be.

 

[cowboys2233]

4395 39 and 8 with a 108 rating with 259 rushing yards to boot

Vs

4903 28 and 19 with a 90.5 rating

You think this argument is close? Lololol.

11 MORE touchdowns - 11 LESS ints. It doesn't get any FARTHER away than that. Give it a rest

Way to cherry pick one season. Career difference is less than 10 points. You give it a rest. Oh, by the way, how many of these other guys have a career QB rating better than Romo's? You know, all the others that make Romo a "borderline top ten QB?"

 

[Hoofbite]

This thread is teetering on the edge of insanity.

 

[boyzjunkie]

We finished last season at 8 and 8. I'm curious if fans think we would have finished better, worse or the same with Rodgers playing qb instead of Tony. No other changes in offense or defense. Both guys were sacked often. 30+ and 50+ for their respective teams. How do we do with Rodgers?

 

[cowboys2233]

Nowhere in my post did I say I rated romo borderline top 10..I said the consensus on him was borderline top 10

You're only strengthening my argument -- you admit that his numbers merit a much higher ranking, clearly in the top-five, but that the "consensus" is that he is barely in the top ten. Which proves my point, most publications out there are far too lazy to realize that a) Romo is a far better QB than most would like to admit and b) the Cowboys might just have a REALLY good team this year, provided they stay healthy. To put them in the lower half of the league's rankings is idiotic at best, and likely biased because of anti-Cowboy sentiment.

 

[Verdict]

We finished last season at 8 and 8. I'm curious if fans think we would have finished better, worse or the same with Rodgers playing qb instead of Tony. No other changes in offense or defense. Both guys were sacked often. 30+ and 50+ for their respective teams. How do we do with Rodgers?

I think there is a pretty good chance that Rodgers would have been injured behind this line.

 

[perrykemp]

We finished last season at 8 and 8. I'm curious if fans think we would have finished better, worse or the same with Rodgers playing qb instead of Tony. No other changes in offense or defense. Both guys were sacked often. 30+ and 50+ for their respective teams. How do we do with Rodgers?

Well, Rodgers would have likely thrown 8-10 less interceptions. I say the Cowboys would have won 9-11 games and definitely would have beat the Commanders in the last week of the season.

Rodger's low interception rate is what makes him truly special.

 

[JBS]

You're only strengthening my argument -- you admit that his numbers merit a much higher ranking, clearly in the top-five, but that the "consensus" is that he is barely in the top ten. Which proves my point, most publications out there are far too lazy to realize that a) Romo is a far better QB than most would like to admit and b) the Cowboys might just have a REALLY good team this year, provided they stay healthy. To put them in the lower half of the league's rankings is idiotic at best, and likely biased because of anti-Cowboy sentiment.

None of that matters. The arguments is romo vs Rodgers. There is no argument. None. Lol at your cherry picking one season line. As if romo has EVER outplayed Rodgers.

 

[perrykemp]

I think there is a pretty good chance that Rodgers would have been injured behind this line.

Rodgers was sacked 15 times more times than Romo last season. He was the most sacked QB in the NFL -- which is the 2nd time in four years he has lead the league in sacks.

 

[Verdict]

Well, Rodgers would have likely thrown 8-10 less interceptions. I say the Cowboys would have won 9-11 games and definitely would have been the Commanders in the last week of the season.

Rodger's low interception rate is what makes him truly special.

I'm sure that Romo's interception rate had nothing to do with the imprecise routes that his receivers ran at times. I am sure that Rodgers would have instinctively known that his receivers would run the wrong route and would have adjusted his throws to compensate.

 

[fatboygixxer]

No offense to Romo, I love the guy and I'm definately a fan, but there is more than a slight advantage to the Packers with Rodgers. Rodgers is the best QB in the NFL, IMO, and he's definately better than Romo.

He also plays behind a crappy line, but he doesn' t allow that to dictate his game. I love Romo but I am so sick of people crying about our offensive line whenever Romo throws a pick or has a bad game..like simply throwing it away or taking a sack was never an option..

 

[Verdict]

Rodgers was sacked 15 times more times than Romo last season. He was the most sacked QB in the NFL -- which is the 2nd time in four years he has lead the league in sacks.

Yes. But he is much less elusive than Romo. Behind this line it is conceivable that he could have been sacked 6 times per game every game. Do the math on that one.

 

[cowboys2233]

None of that matters. The arguments is romo vs Rodgers. There is no argument. None. Lol at your cherry picking one season line. As if romo has EVER outplayed Rodgers.

I'm sorry, where in this thread did I say I would pick Romo over Rodgers? I said the opposite. But then you come back with all this noise about Romo being borderline top ten. Which is utterly ridiculous.

 

[perrykemp]

I'm sure that Romo's interception rate had nothing to do with the imprecise routes that his receivers ran at times. I am sure that Rodgers would have instinctively known that his receivers would run the wrong route and would have adjusted his throws to compensate.

I think those imprecise routes did affect Romo -- no disagreement from me there. But how do you explain seasons like 2007 when he had two HOF 1st ballot locks starting with Owens and Witten and he threw for 19 Interceptions in that season as well?

That isn't to diss Romo, I'm just saying that IMHO the single biggest reason why Aaron Rodgers is demolishing all of these QB records is his low interception rate... More often that not Rodgers willingly takes a sack as opposed to throwing a low percentage pass.

It makes his sack totals terrible but his INT totals wonderful.

 

[cowboys2233]

None of that matters. The arguments is romo vs Rodgers. There is no argument. None. Lol at your cherry picking one season line. As if romo has EVER outplayed Rodgers.

No, it wasn't. The argument was that the Cowboys are better than the Packers at every position other than QB and that the Cowboys ranking of 18 relative to the Pack at 4 is ridiculous. Re-read the initial post.

 

[dstovall5]

I think any time a team has the BEST QB in the league, they're always going to have a very good shot at a deep play off run. So them ranked 4th isn't "insane" or anything like that, they just have the best QB in the NFL. As for Dallas being ranked 18th, well that's right around where we should be ranked as well. What have we done recently to prove that ranking wrong? By going 22 - 26 the past 3 seasons? Sounds like a team that's ranked around 18th to me. Hopefully that all changes this year.

As for the people trying to compare Tony Romo to Aaron Rodgers are obviously just being biased, it's really not even close. That's nothing Romo should be ashamed about though, Aaron Rodgers will go down as the GREATEST QB if he continues to play like he has since he's came into the league.

Since he's entered the league - 65.7 CMP% / 21,660 Yards / 8.13 Y/A / 171 TDs / 46 INTs / 104.9 R
Here's his stat line for the past 2 years - 67.75 CMP% / 8,938 Yards / 8.52 Y/A / 84 TDs / 14 INTs / 115.25 R

What he's done so far throughout his career is unheard of. Also not only is Tony Romo not even close, but Tom Brady isn't close to Aaron Rodgers as well. No QB is, because Aaron Rodgers is in a league of his own as long as he continues to play like he has shown.

 

[Verdict]

I think those imprecise routes did affect Romo -- no disagreement from me there. But how do you explain seasons like 2007 when he had two HOF 1st ballot locks starting with Owens and Witten and he threw for 19 Interceptions in that season as well?

That isn't to diss Romo, I'm just saying that IMHO the single biggest reason why Aaron Rodgers is demolishing all of these QB records is his low interception rate... More often that not Rodgers willingly takes a sack as opposed to throwing a low percentage pass.

It makes his sack totals terrible but his INT totals wonderful.

I think that Romo's pressing need to improvise and force something to happen coupled with a horrible offensive line is obscuring how truly gifted and talented of a QB he really is.

 

[cowboys2233]

I think that Romo's pressing need to improvise and force something to happen coupled with a horrible offensive line is obscuring how truly gifted and talented of a QB he really is.

Exactly. You put Matt Ryan on our team last year and he doesn't win more than 3 or 4 games. Heck, I would even say someone like Peyton Manning doesn't win 8 games with this team last year, being as immobile as he is. And that's ultimately what it boils down to, there may be only one QB out there that would have won more games than Romo did with that team, Aaron Rodgers. And he maybe gets them an extra game. Who else has the mobility, creativity, quick release and accuracy to even survive, much less succeed under those conditions?

 

[DOUBLE WING]

It's not really a matter of being fair or not. It's a matter of dwelling on the past and not doing a remotely good job of analysis on their part.

Offensive line - Cowboys > Packers, especially since their LT is gone for the season now
Quarterback - Packers > Cowboys -- I am Romo's biggest fan but Rodgers is maybe one of two QBs I would still take over Romo
Running Backs Cowboys > Packers
Wide Receivers - Cowboys > Packers
Defensive Line - Cowboys > Packers
Linebackers - Cowboys > Packers
Secondary - Cowboys > Packers
Place Kicker - Cowboys > Packers

Trying to compare teams this way is so stupid. Most of the teams we lost to last year, if you had done an on-paper position-by-position matchup, we would have come out on top. There's more to the game than names. You need coaches who can get the most out of those names. Thus far, we haven't had that. Green Bay does.

 

[5Stars]

Trying to compare teams this way is so stupid. Most of the teams we lost to last year, if you had done an on-paper position-by-position matchup, we would have come out on top. There's more to the game than names. You need coaches who can get the most out of those names. Thus far, we haven't had that. Green Bay does.

How long has the Coach of Green Bay been doing his thing? How many years has Garret been a head coach?