What the heck was that review before the Maher 60 yard field goal before the half?

MarcusRock

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Make no mistake....if Mauher missed that kick...there would have been no review...no retry.

Tells you everything you need to know about the state of the NFL.

BEGRUDGINGLY....the NFL needs us to be relevant...

And they can't stand it....that they have to have us...relevant...or the entire system goes into the toilet.

They need us to be relevant or their entire system goes into the toilet which is why it makes perfect sense that they'd try to screw us. Do you people even listen to your own logic as you spew it? One would think y'all are making this up as you go along. Lol.
 

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They are going to say there was no snap, because the call to review came in before the snap, like a last second time out to ice kicker, the ball might get snapped, but it's a "non play." Not saying this is right, but that's going to be the league's line on this.
That what I assumed but usually when that happens they signal right away, not after the kick and celebration
It was a reasonable review I think but just make a decision before not after
 

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It was a both review too right, because Minny was out of TOs and couldn't challenge????
Coaches can’t challenge in last two min
Always booth review and reviewing it would have been reasonable had it not been after the snap
Though I’m sure they would argue they got buzzed before the snap
 

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It would usually be a guy on the sideline that is buzzed (or at least that's where I've seen it in the past). The two guys in the foreground were out of camera shot very quickly, which just leaves the guys under the goal...who are 60 yards away.

These things aren't instantaneous.
If I guy out of camera was signaling would we not likely see Maher and players reacting to them? Or the Vikings?

Well after the ball went through the posts there was no player reaction indicating that they heard an attempt to stop the play or the refs saying we missed stopping this play, but we’d like to announce it now—even after the play was literally over.
 

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The delay was extreme, but we've all seen plenty of plays ran over the years where they come back and say they were buzzed before the snap.

Surprised at so many pretending they haven't. Selective memory, I guess?

Yeah, I've seen what you are suggesting, but never after this sequence of events:

Complete BS.
  1. We completed it.
  2. Ran out the play clock.
  3. CALLED A FREAKING TIMEOUT.
  4. Sat around for the timeout.
  5. Lined up and kicked a 60 yarder.
THEN they review the catch!!!!!!???!!!

Bull crap.

There's no excusing it. There was more than ample time to signal a review and keep the Cowboys from attempting their FG. You can claim incompetence, but the fact remains that once again strange ref stuff happens against the Cowboys that nobody has seen before. This didn't happen to the Steelers, the Packers, or the Patriots. It happened to the Cowboys.
 

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So ive been looking all day and not one ref was fined? not one was suspended? NFL not even talking about it?

this is why i consider the NFL a joke.....this is WWF screwjob levels of officiating.....what next? special guest referees during game?

Micah Vs Saquan in a cage match?
 

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It would usually be a guy on the sideline that is buzzed (or at least that's where I've seen it in the past). The two guys in the foreground were out of camera shot very quickly, which just leaves the guys under the goal...who are 60 yards away.

These things aren't instantaneous.
It is the referee that is buzzed and has to stop play. The other officials are out of that loop.
 

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If I guy out of camera was signaling would we not likely see Maher and players reacting to them? Or the Vikings?

Well after the ball went through the posts there was no player reaction indicating that they heard an attempt to stop the play or the refs saying we missed stopping this play, but we’d like to announce it now—even after the play was literally over.
There actually was. First a shot of a ref talking to McCarthy, then a shot of Maher where he had kind of a "wait a minute, wut?" look on his face.

But, CBS really kept showing/talking about the kick, they were not showing many shots of the players/coaches/officials.
 

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There needs to be some limit to the review process in these situations, like when the play clock gets to 5 seconds - the play can no longer be reviewed.
The limit is the snap of the ball prior to the review being buzzed down from the booth official. Technically, if he buzzes the referee before the ball is snapped, then it doesn't matter that the play was run, but you would also see the referee blowing the play dead. That never happened yesterday...there was no whistle that anybody is aware of. All I know is that somebody(s) in the officiating chain messed that up badly. That's what most here are saying in this thread.
 

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Just a few observations after watching this game for 42 years:


3) Officials don’t rig outcomes but they try everything in their power to keep games as close as possible. There is too much ad and gambling revenue at stake. They have been given marching orders, hence their “incompetence” is guised by their part time employment. They rarely get reprimanded. They even rewarded Bill Vinovich with Super Bowl officiating duties the year after he single-handedly guided the Rams to the Super Bowl instead of the Saints.

Money drives everything. Including the flow of your Cowboys game.

That is trying to rig games. If you are attempting to unduly influence things in the game then there is no soft zone. It is an attempt to rig the game regardless of whether or not the rigging attempt succeeded.
 

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The limit is the snap of the ball prior to the review being buzzed down from the booth official. Technically, if he buzzes the referee before the ball is snapped, then it doesn't matter that the play was run, but you would also see the referee blowing the play dead. That never happened yesterday...there was no whistle that anybody is aware of. All I know is that somebody(s) in the officiating chain messed that up badly. That's what most here are saying in this thread.

that is the issue

if they called the whistle during the kick then ok fine, i'll accecpt that

but there was a timeout, a play was run and the score was updated with both team headed to the locker room

then you review it?

thats horse and bull crap
 

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There actually was. First a shot of a ref talking to McCarthy, then a shot of Maher where he had kind of a "wait a minute, wut?" look on his face.
Yes. That was weeeell after the play. And McCarthy’s first reaction was like “explain what’s going on” no indication that the ref knew then it was a dead ball yet. Only that there was some confusion.

And I know you are saying the one minute they had to review isn’t what we’re discussing, but they had 45 seconds and the time during the timeout to let anyone know about the review. Still, they waited until the ball was through the uprights at the earliest.

Shouldn’t one of those back refs been notified first? Or another guy off camera?
 

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Since the next play had already been executed, and of course a review not legally possible, at the very least once they found that it was a catch the kick should have stood. Imagine if that would have been a game deciding play?
Or on top of that a playoff game.
 

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Bottom line is they didn’t stop the play. They never blew the play dead. At least there’s no indication that they did on tv and no reactions by anyone until after the kick was over.

So if they run a play to completion I don’t see how they can replay the play before. I’ve never seen that. I’ve seen them blow a play dead after the snap, but not after the play is over. And they never blew any whistle.
 

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Yes. That was weeeell after the play. And McCarthy’s first reaction was like “explain what’s going on” no indication that the ref knew then it was a dead ball yet. Only that there was some confusion.

And I know you are saying the one minute they had to review isn’t what we’re discussing, but they had 45 seconds and the time during the timeout to let anyone know about the review. Still, they waited until the ball was through the uprights at the earliest.

Shouldn’t one of those back refs been notified first? Or another guy off camera?

It wasn't long after the play. The ball went through the uprights, and then the official talking to McCarthy is almost immediately after that. Who knows how long that conversation had already been going on?

I'm not sure what kind of indication you're looking for? The all 22/overhead will likely reveal more as you'll be able to see the sideline where the official that's buzzed would be.

The decision to review likely didn't come until right before the kick. And thus the signal to the official on the sideline did not come until right before the kick. There was clearly failure on the part of the replay booth to actually look at the play in question to see if it needed reviewed. I believe it's likely Romo's comment alerted them to actually do their jobs.
 

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Just rewatched it...

5 officials are visible during the play: The Referee, Umpire, Side Judge, and then the Back judge and Field judge are under the uprights.

  • The Referee (white cap) is the crew chief and the one that has New York in his ear. He did not blow the play dead.
  • At no point before the camera leaves the LOS was there any indication that the play had been stopped. Not from the 5 visible officials, and not from the players themselves.
  • I would have loved to see if the Down Judge that McCarthy was talking to intervened before the snap, but I just don't think it's his job when it comes to replay.
  • The only indication that something was weird was that the Field Judge didn't indicate the kick was good (though the Back Judge did).

We can't definitively say when the intervention came from the booth, but it's clear that it wasn't early enough for the 5 officials and 22 players on the field to play the down in earnest.

This is absolutely inexcusable considering the 1:40 that elapsed in between the plays.
 
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