What's the one thing you know for sure will change when Stephen takes over for Jerry?

[yimyammer]

I think he has lost power to Stephen.

no way, ceded power...perhaps

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

Any reference on Ryans involvement with Claiborne. Hadn't heard about or seen that anywhere.

After Ryan was fired the guys on the ticket said Jerry had asked ROb what he wanted his answer was I need two CBs . Hence the Carr signing and trade for Claiborne . They were both rob Ryan inputs . Jerry was so pissed with the end results hence the firing . He let him pick his own groceries and they were disasters . Jerry was pissed . You get a coach what he wants and results are even worse.

 

[yimyammer]

I think he is painfully aware of how the media views his father and his sister Charlotte has talked about how they listen to the Jerry impersonations on the Ticket, them drafting O-line so high recently has shown a change of philosophy. I just dont see him trying to be as involved with the decisions as Jerry, but thats more calling JJ meddling and interfering than praising Steo.

Edit: Also less access to their draft board.

how do they respond to the jerri impersonators? Were they pissed or think they were funny?

 

[DFWJC]

After Ryan was fired the guys on the ticket said Jerry had asked ROb what he wanted his answer was I need two CBs . Hence the Carr signing and trade for Claiborne . They were both rob Ryan inputs . Jerry was so pissed with the end results hence the firing . He let him pick his own groceries and they were disasters . Jerry was pissed . You get a coach what he wants and results are even worse.

Absolutely no doubt Ryan's hand was in both the Carr and Claiborne deals.
He was very loud about not having the players he needed at CB.
When the defense ended up being historically bad, that gave Jerry an additional reason to get rid of someone he already wanted to get rid of.
In the end though, Jerry had to sign off on those deals, so he is the main one accountable--with the scouts and Ryan next in line.

 

[khiladi]

Demarcus Ware has 10 sacks, Ratliff with only 6 starts is only a half sack behind Melton. So technically, it was a strength. Our D Backs are pretty terrible. Do they have some talent? Yes. They can't play zone, they're slow to react to the throw and they rarely make an attempt at the ball. Brandon Carr was a bad pickup for sure. His poor skill set was masked by a talented defense in Kansas. I wouldn't say Stephen is any more of an idiot. Stephen is probably a contributor to the fact that we don't have Johnny Facepalm in Dallas right now.

I was responding to the assertion that Claiborne was a Roy Ryan pick and the reason he got fired. That's absurd.

As far as Stephen Jones, put it this way. Stephen Jones admitted the mistakes in regards to Floyd being rated that high on the board, confirming the fact that Jerry's over-ruling their take on Floyd, because of Marinelli, was pretty much the real story. How the department Stephen Jones was in charge of had Floyd ranked for high in a 4-3 scheme shows how 'smart' he actually is...

http://www.nbcdfw.com/blogs/blue-st...allas-Passing-on-Sharrif-Floyd-246379041.html

“I don’t want to single a guy out, but I think that can happen when you change a system and you move from what we were doing,” Jones said, “and we were so into that and then all of a sudden you move to a 4-3 and you’ve got new coaches in the room and what they’re trying to accomplish, then that one kind of slipped through the cracks a little bit on us. It won’t happen again.”

The problem with his ridiculous argument is that they had declared the move to 4-3 in January, when they brought in Kiffen and Marinelli.

As far as this year, Jerry denied Johnny from the very beginning and even prior to that, in January and the year before, he was talking about Romo being involved more in game-planning and actual coaching. There is NO WAY in hell Jerry was going to draft Johnny and that is utter BS. He stated even after the draft that they had 4 players rated as BPAs, 3 of the 4 defense and the 4th, Martin. The 3 defensive players they were targeting were all gone by then.

 

[khiladi]

Absolutely no doubt Ryan's hand was in both the Carr and Claiborne deals.
He was very loud about not having the players he needed at CB.
When the defense ended up being historically bad, that gave Jerry an additional reason to get rid of someone he already wanted to get rid of
In the end though, Jerry had to sign off on those deals, so he is the main one accountable--with the scouts and Ryan next in line.

They were like this before, with Anthony Henry, Jacques Reeves and safeties like Alan Ball and the drop-off with guys like Roy Williams. Newman clearly dropped off as well. Jenkins had bolted. As stated before, Dallas was always focused on the DBs upto the year they got Carr and Claiborne and they thought they got the corners they needed. They had Ware, Spencer and Ratliff supposedly healthy. The DL wasn't considering the weakness according to them. They were talking about how Dallas could never produce.

EVERYBODY in the organization was looking at CBs and DBs, includin Jones Junior and Garrett...

 

[khiladi]

The GUY that built this OL is the same guy Garrett was RIFTING with last year. That man is Callahan. Garrett brought in Houck originally and was employing power-blocking scheme and 'big, beefy linemen'. Callahan revamped the line and worked out guys that fit his zone-blocking schemes. he worked out Frederick.

 

[DFWJC]

They were like this before, with Anthony Henry, Jacques Reeves and safeties like Alan Ball and the drop-off with guys like Roy Williams. Newman clearly dropped off as well. Jenkins had bolted. As stated before, Dallas was always focused on the DBs upto the year they got Carr and Claiborne and they thought they got the corners they needed. They had Ware, Spencer and Ratliff supposedly healthy. The DL wasn't considering the weakness according to them. They were talking about how Dallas could never produce.

EVERYBODY in the organization was looking at CBs and DBs, includin Jones Junior and Garrett...

True.

It was just the level of investment that I was referring too.
I mean Carr got a monster 50 million deal and we traded a high 1st and 2nd rounder to get Claiborne. It was almost a put-all-your chips-into-one-place type mentality.

 

[BAZ]

how do they respond to the jerri impersonators? Were they pissed or think they were funny?

She said they all listen to them to see which sibling comes off the worst, but find them very funny. Shes a good interview.

 

[yimyammer]

Asking Irish people that is considered the worst kind of trolling.

My apologies my friend, I almost asked if you were from that overall region for fear of that very issue. I just got through binge watching Peep Show, is it too british for you to enjoy it as much as I did?

 

[BAZ]

My apologies my friend, I almost asked if you were from that overall region for fear of that very issue. I just got through binge watching Peep Show, is it too british for you to enjoy it as much as I did?

I've no problem with any of that, just letting you know it's an old trope.

Not a fan of the Peep show if for no other reason than "cringe" humor doesn't do it for me. The office is a similar experience.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

Used to think Stephen would hire a 'real' GM. Not so sure now. He has an acting GM on board who seems to be doing a pretty good job.

Ah, yes, one of my favorite terms posters use: 'real GM'

Those who use it never can seem to define it or explain what credentials make up a 'real GM.' Sure, some will point to the latest super bowl-winning GM as an example for a year or two. Former NFL player? Former College player? Division I, II, or III? Former coach? Scout for x number of years? Business pedigree? College degree in 'GM-ing' from Ivy League school? Wharton graduate? School of hard knocks graduate? Degree in sports journalism from Kent State? Criminology degree from Florida?

Or is 'real GM' just a scapegoat, someone to fire if things don't go well for any reason, even reasons totally unrelated to the GM?

Stephen has played the game in college, has a degree in chemical engineering and has pretty much dedicated his professional life to football. I'm going to guess that he, like his father, eats, drinks (ha ha insert Johnny Walker here) and sleeps (ha ha insert joke). football.

As I wrote in a thread about Clowney needing surgery here at this site, check out the Houston Texans' 2014 draft by a 'real GM.'

 

[jazzcat22]

Some posters and mediots will copy their old posts or articles, and edit Jerry to Stephen, and continue the hate.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

Jerry's brain will outlive us all, so why ask why?

 

[lukin1966]

No fan of Jerry myself and he is greatly responsible for the super bowl drought ... but lets be honest a little, just bringing in football people does not guarantee success ... lots of teams have football people in charge and have very little success. Do they have a professional in charge of the salary cap? If not, that they should be a priority hire, this team does a poor job at managing the cap. Of course drafting better would allow them more freedom to release guys or let them walk before it cost too much.

 

[WoodysGirl]

One thing that will change? The number of radio shows Jerry has.

 

[CaptainMorgan]

Jim Beam > Johnny Walker

 

[mahoneybill]

After Ryan was fired the guys on the ticket said Jerry had asked ROb what he wanted his answer was I need two CBs . Hence the Carr signing and trade for Claiborne . They were both rob Ryan inputs . Jerry was so pissed with the end results hence the firing . He let him pick his own groceries and they were disasters . Jerry was pissed . You get a coach what he wants and results are even worse.

Thanks for that insight. Wasn't aware of that. This for one thing makes me understand why we let him go.

 

[Wolfpack]

Not much will change. I think Junior thinks of himself as a big time football guy much like his daddy. There is much dis-functionalism built into that Front Office and it would take a top to bottom cleaning to rid it out.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

That would be refreshing, I'm sick to death of all the TMZ nonsense jerri seems to love, having the focus be about football, football and winning football would be awesome

I'm a believer that the GM position is probably the most overrated position in the NFL. It's not that it is unimportant, but most people make it to be something it's not. Bobby Beatherd in Washington was a huge success. In San Diego he was a failure. I tend to think that Joe Gibbs was the reason for Washington's success, not Beatherd's eye for talent. And there's plenty of other cases like that as well.

However, I wish we had somebody else as a GM because I look back to the Tex Schramm days (who was *not* a talent evaluator) and his main focus was to give the coaches and the scouts the best resources out there along with marketing the team. As an owner, Jerry can't quite have that total focus on providing the coaches and the scouts with the best possible because he has to do owner duties which take on a whole different animal.

I was told a while ago by a beat writer that every writer following Jerry knows the golden rule...Jerry will always give more time to his critics than he will his supporters. So when they need a story...start ripping into Jerry. And if they are in doubt...rip into Jerry because it will benefit you more in the long run. Sad to see so called 'professionals' act that way, but it's just the way it is.

I see the focus probably going more on the players to spill their hatred and that may work against us down the road. I can't imagine controversy surrounding an owner (in most cases) being a real distraction for the team. In fact, it may prompt the team to rally around the owner if they feel the criticism is unfair. But, when players are in the middle of controversy it can provide a distraction that we can't get out of.

With that said, it's so critical to have the right coach in place to handle it. I've had more than my fair share of criticisms against Garrett, but he's the best I've seen at controlling the Dallas media outside of Landry.






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