When does Hardy become an option?

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Well that was written on December 31.

So perhaps Hardy made a mean face at Jason during the week before the finale.

But being serious, there are rumors of Hardy calling out Garrett's manhood, so there is that. Don't know when that was supposed to have happened.

But it is clear how ice cold Garrett has been on him since the season ended.

Forgive me if I don't give two poops about Jason Garrett's feelings being hurt, the guy should be kissing everyone's butt that he's still employed.

But I put zero stock into those 'boogeyman' rumors. If they were true, Hardy should have and would have been fired on the spot. Any team or coach that didn't do it right then is spineless and deserve whatever bad things happen to them.

No player would ever get away with that stuff, here or anywhere else. Especially a guy on a play-as-you-go contract like Hardy was, playing for a team as out of contention as the Cowboys were. None of it adds up.

And if it did? Make it public, bury the guy and end his career. But that's not happening either.
 

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A tear rolling down his cheek in the 97 finale?

Handled a basic benching by Gailey and took it like a man.

Michael can be an idiot, but don't compare him with this dude.

Any man who can't behave himself better after coming off a 19 game suspension deserves what is happening to Hardy. Good riddance!

Irvin did things far worse than Hardy, including jabbing a teammate in the neck with hair clippers, that resulted in Jerry paying hush money to the guy.
I love Mike for his passion but he was "in the streets" constantly.
He basically invented the work hard, play hard mantra.

Hardy's sideline antics occur to Tom Brady too. I recall Dez being labeled a team killer then sound was turned on and all that sideline ranting was almost disgustingly positive.

Fans know 5% of what they claim too. Ignorance is bliss.
 

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I don't remember any reports about Irvin being late and/or not practicing. That is the big key with this guy not just here but in Carolina. That type of player is not going be welcomed back on to many teams imo.

His teammates in Carolina loved him, led by Cam Newton.
The only voice of dissent for his return was the Carolina Owner's who was concerned about his assault alone.
 

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His teammates in Carolina loved him, led by Cam Newton.
The only voice of dissent for his return was the Carolina Owner's who was concerned about his assault alone.

Your post will also be Ignored!
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Whatever the actual reason we continued to start him, it's clear we did.
And if whatever conditions existed to have us start him ALL last year, why are those conditions magically changed now?

The only different condition I see is he isn't CURRENTLY on the team.
But two signatures change that and neither signature required is Jason Garrett's.

I think it far more likely Rod M decides who starts than Jerry on his DL. And Perhaps Rod is less a RKoG philosophy dude.
After all, Rod made his greatest hay with Warren Sapp.

Yep - Rod signing off on it could add a lot of weight. I also agree that he doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who cares about all the B.S. If he gets a solid effort on the field (which he got from Hardy) I think he's all in. Easy to be, I know, when you're not the head coach.

We're talking about the most valued commodity in all of pro football outside of a good QB and yet there has not been one mention in regards to any team offer, interest, visit, rumor, etc. The silence doesn't get any more deafening than that and I think the reasons are both off the field conduct and the PR hit the team takes in that city.

The mud has already been thrown on everybody's face. Might as well let it dry and carry on.

The longer he hangs around without signing - the closer he gets to the Cowboys.
 

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His teammates in Carolina loved him, led by Cam Newton.
The only voice of dissent for his return was the Carolina Owner's who was concerned about his assault alone.

Not talking about who loved him talking about it being documented about him missing meetings.
 

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I don't give it credence because it's an unsourced second-hand narrative. I'm not the one confusing that with 'the actual events,' and that's specifically because, of the two of us, I'm not the one with the narrative.



I remember it perfectly well. By the way, you accidentally linked to a Randy Galloway article here when you'd meant to link to an actual recap. FYI.

You can't even acknowledge what happened on the field which was clear for all to see - that's just plain sad and a confirmation of your agenda.
 

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So Hardy in a down year is about as productive as the rare rookie pass rusher who has an impact. I'd rather take my chances on Hardy than hope Bosa is the next Watt. And even then, Hardy had more sacks in 12 games last year than Watt had in 16 games as a rookie. My point is, rookie pass rushers rarely make a huge impact. You're lucky if you get solid production out of them.

Hardy had a down year and was nothing but a distraction. He blew his opportunity with the Cowboys and may have blown an opportunity with another team. It was a tumultuous first season with the Cowboys and it has other teams around the league showing no interest in him. He'll be more remembered for his antics than his positive play. It was reported and confirmed he was late for meetings and one of his own teammates who's locker is right next to his said he created tension in the locker room. It was also reported that he partied a lot during the season and wasn't in great physical shape as the season wore on which is supported by the fact he only had 2 sacks the final 8 games of the season. He started off with a bang vs NE with 2 sacks and slowly began to fizzle out as the season wore on. Garrett acknowledged he spoke to Hardy on several occasions about his behavior. One of the reasons his teammates soured on him was because he was never punished for being late for meetings or the physical altercation he had with one of the coaches during a game. There was a report he confronted Garrett with comments that should have gotten him cut. Jerry always thinks he can reform troubled players back in 1999 he signed Alonzo Spellman who was a nutcase because he was desperate for a pass rusher.

You're putting too much on how productive a rookie pass rusher is instead of the long-term future they may possibly have. Although DLaw wasn't productive as a rookie he made one of the biggest plays of the year in the playoffs vs the Lions with a sack and fumble recovery that helped save that game. He led the team with 8 sacks in his second year producing 7 of those sacks in the final 8 games compared to only 2 sacks for Hardy during that period. He had 2 sacks in a big win vs Washington in week 13. Why take your chances on a ticking time bomb who could explode at any moment rather than the top pass rusher in the draft when Hardy's antics made more news last season than his play? Who has the better chance at a longer future with the team a soon to be 28 year old distraction who caused tension in the locker room or the top pass rusher in the draft? So Hardy had more sacks in 12 games last season than Watt had as a rookie who would you rather have Hardy or Watt?

Watt had 20.5 sacks his second season both he and DLaw had more sacks during their second season than Hardy did in 2015. DLaw produced more sacks in 2015 than Hardy did his first 2 seasons. Hardy has only had 2 productive seasons during his 6 year career. He's 3 years removed from his 15 sack season and with his reputation being trash I doubt he'll ever come close to having another season like he did in 2013. He lost a lot of his focus having to deal with that domestic violence charge that ruined his reputation along with fighting his 10 game suspension. His mind hasn't been on football he's been dealing with too many off the field issues to be focusing on football. He's not the same player he was before that domestic violence charge. Tiger Woods was never the same golfer after that scandal rocked his world ruining his reputation. Hardy comes off as defiant and any player who's actions off the field attract more attention than their play on the field is a detriment to your team and needs to go.
 

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You do know that Aikman, Garrett, and Irvin loathed Chan Gailey and his offense and forced him out right?

Irvin's career was over when Gailey was fired. He didn't get Gailey forced out. Garrett was a backup QB - he had absolutely no stroke, and was not on the team the season after Gailey's firing.

Aikman, though, did not have clean hands on that one.
 

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Irvin's career was over when Gailey was fired. He didn't get Gailey forced out. Garrett was a backup QB - he had absolutely no stroke, and was not on the team the season after Gailey's firing.

Aikman, though, did not have clean hands on that one.
They were not happy with the offense and wanted him out. Irvin was out because of the injury. Gailey was still forced out by Aikman and Garrett as I stated.
 

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They were not happy with the offense and wanted him out. Irvin was out because of the injury. Gailey was still forced out by Aikman and Garrett as I stated.

Garrett had NOTHING to do with Gailey's ouster - he wasn't even on the team the next year. The backup QB had stroke with the owner to get a coach removed?

Seriously?
 

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Garrett had NOTHING to do with Gailey's ouster - he wasn't even on the team the next year. The backup QB had stroke with the owner to get a coach removed?

Seriously?
When he was there both Garret and Aikman were going to Jerry about it not working. There was even talk that they were making changes to Gailey's offense because they hated it so much. So he was involved before he left.
 

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When he was there both Garret and Aikman were going to Jerry about it not working. There was even talk that they were making changes to Gailey's offense because they hated it so much. So he was involved before he left.

It was Gailey's offense and his refusal to change it that got him fired. Saw an interview with him a day or 2 before he was fired and said he wasn't changing the offense and wanted Jerry to make a decision on his future.
 

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When he was there both Garret and Aikman were going to Jerry about it not working. There was even talk that they were making changes to Gailey's offense because they hated it so much. So he was involved before he left.

I literally do not believe that Garrett had anything to do with Chan Gailey being fired at the end of the 1999 season. Aikman, absolutely. For a guy who was no longer on the roster the following season to have any sway in getting a coach fired strains credulity. I have never read anything about this taking place - do you have a link?
 
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