Where would Dak go in the draft today?

That would depend on how much a GM puts into pretend season games but I would guess 1st round. And based on Goff and Lynch's play and Wentz's lack of availability, he could have gone with the 1st pick.

Dak had 2 things going against him. The DWI charge and the drop from 2014 to 2015. If he had taken the progression most were expecting him to take, he would have gone in the 1st round.

We are also seeing him play behind this OL and he's not been pressured yet. Let's see him get through these next 4 games and discuss this again? I like re-draft discussions and look forward to the ones published at the end of each season.

While posters are down on our drafting, we've got quite a few players, mainly 1st rounders, that would go higher in re-drafts. Big Smitty, Martinized and probably Yosemite. Dez and Witten for sure. And while he sticks out as an example, Claiborne would have gone top 10 in that draft. Shame we're not as good in the later rounds as we are in the 1st rounds, we'd be golden.
 
CouchCoach said:
We are also seeing him play behind this OL and he's not been pressured yet.
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I disagree, personally. In fact, what's impressed me most is how he's handled the pressure. He's got a great line and I'm sure he'll see a lot more in the regular season. But there were plenty of examples of him staying in the pocket and delivering with pressure.
 
ConceptCoop said:
I don't think that's accurate. I mean, Lynch and Wentz were drafted for their upside, not their week 1 value. I could certainly see plenty of GMs thinking they have a higher upside than Dak. Wentz especially. I love Dak, but I'd trade him for Wentz personally. Not Lynch, but I was never a huge Lynch fan.
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Every rookie's drafted for upside. Wentz and Goff were supposed to both be more pro-ready than Prescott and to have higher upsides. It's evident now they weren't more ready.

If you want to argue that they've got more upside than Dak does, I'll listen. But on the surface, that's a tough argument to make too. Dak's physically an impressive athlete, too. And now he's demonstrated how quickly he can improve his game. Those are two very important components to QB development.
 
Idgit said:
Every rookie's drafted for upside. Wentz and Goff were supposed to both be more pro-ready than Prescott and to have higher upsides. It's evident now they weren't more ready.

If you want to argue that they've got more upside than Dak does, I'll listen. But on the surface, that's a tough argument to make too. Dak's physically an impressive athlete, too. And now he's demonstrated how quickly he can improve his game. Those are two very important components to QB development.
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I don't think Wentz was expected to be more pro-ready than Dak. Who could make that argument? He only played 2 full seasons an South Dakota State. And while Dak is a solid athlete, he's no Carson Wentz. Don't get me wrong, give me Dak in the 4th over Wentz 2nd overall. But in a vacuum, I still think Wentz is the more valuable asset.
 
Dale said:
Is it? Think about how much the combine moves the needle. And the Senior Bowl. You don't think seeing rookies against NFL-type talent in game settings for 4 games changes the way teams view players?

Hell, teams are basing the final 10-15 spots on their rosters based largely on these preseason games.
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Brilliant explanation.
 
ConceptCoop said:
I don't think Wentz was expected to be more pro-ready than Dak. Who could make that argument? He only played 2 full seasons an South Dakota State. And while Dak is a solid athlete, he's no Carson Wentz. Don't get me wrong, give me Dak in the 4th over Wentz 2nd overall. But in a vacuum, I still think Wentz is the more valuable asset.
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You're right, both Wentz and Lynch were not projected to be pro ready, but both were expected to have a big upside.
In fact, almost before they'd taken a practice snap, their teams had already proclaimed them as players serving a redshirt, grooming year.
 
JerryJonesMustGo said:
I think the Rams are regretting trading what they traded to get Goff.
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There's got to be some serious buyer's remorse within that organization. It's still way too early to draw any conclusions, but holy crap, he looks lost. He has those head-scratchingly goofy plays that leave you wondering if he's got it.
 
He would go 2nd round.

Where he should have went anyway. The DWI arrest scared off some teams.
 
Does he have the dui thing hanging over his head again? If not, probably the second round...if so, same place.
 
#1 overall and it's not even up for discussion. You have two teams that gave up their immediate future to get a qb and you think they would let a qb that has done what Dak has in 3 games slip by? Not a chance, especially when the top two guys have looked bad. Lynch has looked about like what you expected and that's likely good enough to get him up to #2 overall in a redraft. I laugh at those who said in the 20's or 2nd-3rd round. Yeah, all those teams are going to pass on a qb that has performed better in their first preseason than nearly every single qb that ever got drafted. And yeah we know it's only preseason and no guarantee but it's the best evidence yet of what he can become and no team wanting a qb is going to pass on that. Zero chance!
 
ConceptCoop said:
I don't think Wentz was expected to be more pro-ready than Dak. Who could make that argument? He only played 2 full seasons an South Dakota State. And while Dak is a solid athlete, he's no Carson Wentz. Don't get me wrong, give me Dak in the 4th over Wentz 2nd overall. But in a vacuum, I still think Wentz is the more valuable asset.
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Google "Wentz pro ready" and you get a list of experts who disagree.

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/04/26/nfl-draft-carson-wentz-north-dakota-state-pro-ready

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/03/jon...tz-is-the-most-nfl-ready-qb-hes-seen-in-years
 
Cowboys22 said:
#1 overall and it's not even up for discussion. You have two teams that gave up their immediate future to get a qb and you think they would let a qb that has done what Dak has in 3 games slip by? Not a chance, especially when the top two guys have looked bad. Lynch has looked about like what you expected and that's likely good enough to get him up to #2 overall in a redraft. I laugh at those who said in the 20's or 2nd-3rd round. Yeah, all those teams are going to pass on a qb that has performed better in their first preseason than nearly every single qb that ever got drafted. And yeah we know it's only preseason and no guarantee but it's the best evidence yet of what he can become and no team wanting a qb is going to pass on that. Zero chance!
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Correct.

Could you imagine some team's fan base on what would happen if their GM passed on Prescott?

Man, it would be ugly.
 
Cowboys22 said:
#1 overall and it's not even up for discussion.
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I think it's poppycock for the same reason last year's rookie QB Brett Hundley wouldn't have been the #1 pick overall in a 2015 re-draft despite his 129 QB rating and 7 TDs passing playing with mainly with the ones in Green Bay last pre-season while GB sat Aaron Rodgers most of the pre-season.

In many ways a very similar scenario as Dak. Both teams with top-end OLs and offensive skill players -- ultimately making pre-season a bit easier for a rookie QB.

I think Dak would have definitely been drafted higher -- maybe even in the 2nd round... however to think he would be redrafted #1 overall is just crazy.
 
perrykemp said:
I think it's poppycock for the same reason last year's rookie QB Richard Hundley wouldn't have been the #1 pick overall in a 2015 re-draft despite his 129 QB rating and 7 TDs passing playing with mainly with the ones in Green Bay last pre-season while GB sat Aaron Rodgers most of the pre-season.

In many ways a very similar scenario as Dak. Both teams with top-end OLs and offensive skill players -- ultimately making pre-season a bit easier for a rookie QB.

I think Dak would have definitely been drafted higher -- maybe even in the 2nd round... however to think he would be redrafted #1 overall is just crazy.
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