who is going to be the backup QB?

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summerisfunner;1376453 said:
it is when you're talking about a backup QB, Rattay is a proven backup, Carr is a proven failure, and yet you want to give up a pick for him, amazing

He's a backup until you need him. Once again, if we are talking about having a team that might be able to contend for a championship, you need to have a QB who is experienced and can win games for you. I'd rather sign the guy who has 75 games under his belt in 5 years as opposed to the guy who has 18 games in 7. That's just my opinion.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1376454 said:
If what you are saying was true, Walsh would never have been drafted to begin with.

The answer is write in front of our faces, it's just not the answer you want to accept.
That is exactly why he would of been drafted, because Jimmy knew he could spin him into more picks...which he did. It's pretty clear.

Anywho, back to the topic at hand. I want no part of Carr and think Rattay would be a perfect compliment to Romo. He has some mobility as well, something Carr lacks, which proved important behind our O-line.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1376455 said:
He's a backup until you need him. Once again, if we are talking about having a team that might be able to contend for a championship, you need to have a QB who is experienced and can win games for you. I'd rather sign the guy who has 75 games under his belt in 5 years as opposed to the guy who has 18 games in 7. That's just my opinion.

yet the guy who has 75 games under his belt in 5 years sucked arse...

that's why if we're going to pick a non-starter to backup Romo, I'd rather it be the player we wouldn't have to exchange a pick for
 

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carphalen5150;1376457 said:
That is exactly why he would of been drafted, because Jimmy knew he could spin him into more picks...which he did. It's pretty clear.

Anywho, back to the topic at hand. I want no part of Carr and think Rattay would be a perfect compliment to Romo. He has some mobility as well, something Carr lacks, which proved important behind our O-line.

Your reaching. Jimmy didn't know any such thing. You don't give up the #1 overall pick in the draft and expect to get like value for it after he fails to win a starting job. Come on man. Now your just insulting everybodies intelligence.

As for Carr, he is not immobile. He actually has decent mobility. Be that as it may, if you would rather have Rattay, that's fine. I do not share that opinion.
 

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summerisfunner;1376460 said:
yet the guy who has 75 games under his belt in 5 years sucked arse...

that's why if we're going to pick a non-starter to backup Romo, I'd rather it be the player we wouldn't have to exchange a pick for


Carr did not have that bad a year last year. Too many INTs but that happens when you get sacked 70 times a season. He played with not so great talent for a long time. He has never had an OL worth a crap. As I said earlier, if you would rather have Rattay, thats fine. Not me.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1376467 said:
Your reaching. Jimmy didn't know any such thing. You don't give up the #1 overall pick in the draft and expect to get like value for it after he fails to win a starting job. Come on man. Now your just insulting everybodies intelligence.

As for Carr, he is not immobile. He actually has decent mobility. Be that as it may, if you would rather have Rattay, that's fine. I do not share that opinion.
:laugh2:

I am insulting your intelligence? I'll keep away from the personal jabs...it is my opinion...I'll say it again, my opinion...that Jimmy drafted him to swing a deal for more picks.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1376477 said:
Carr did not have that bad a year last year. Too many INTs but that happens when you get sacked 70 times a season. He played with not so great talent for a long time. He has never had an OL worth a crap. As I said earlier, if you would rather have Rattay, thats fine. Not me.

Carr put up most of his stats after the Texans were behind big, getting benched and a being on the trading block are all you need to know about him, he sucks, he doesn't deserve a pick, if he couldn't get it in 5 years, the chances of him getting it ever are pretty slim

Rattay is free and serves exactly the purpose of a backup QB

I'm not trying to impress on you Rattay, just trying to impress on you how bad an idea Carr is, the Texans couldn't rely on him, why do you think we should? and give up a pick for him in the process to boot?
 

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carphalen5150;1376480 said:
:laugh2:

I am insulting your intelligence? I'll keep away from the personal jabs...it is my opinion...I'll say it again, my opinion...that Jimmy drafted him to swing a deal for more picks.


Yes, it is your opinion. I think most are aware of that. I just don't happen to believe it is the opinion of most on this board. You are free to start a poll on it if you like.
 

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summerisfunner;1376484 said:
Carr put up most of his stats after the Texans were behind big, getting benched and a being on the trading block are all you need to know about him, he sucks, he doesn't deserve a pick, if he couldn't get it in 5 years, the chances of him getting it ever are pretty slim

Rattay is free and serves exactly the purpose of a backup QB

I'm not trying to impress on you Rattay, just trying to impress on you how bad an idea Carr is, the Texans couldn't rely on him, why do you think we should? and give up a pick for him in the process?

Steve Young.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1376485 said:
Yes, it is your opinion. I think most are aware of that. I just don't happen to believe it is the opinion of most on this board. You are free to start a poll on it if you like.
Why would I need a poll? I am not insecure about forming my own opinions without getting a collective nod from the board. For example, you disagree with me and I am fine with it.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1376486 said:
Steve Young.

Steve Young was brought in as an eventual replacement for Montana just as Danny White came to Dallas to one day take over for an older Staubach that was the object of them being there. Who the backup is has a lot to do with where your starting QB is in his career. When Troy became the starter our backup tended to be older players who had seen action as starting QB
 

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Carr would be a good back up QB. He completes a high percentage of his passes and doesnt throw alot to ints. He is more mobile then Romo and had a worse o -line in Hou then is here.

Rattay is not very mobile and has a weak arm. He would be one of my last options for a qb. He had trouble competeing with Ken Dorsey and Brad Grakowski. I am sure T.O probably hates him too from their days in SF..haha
 

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What the HELL???? I am not 7 freaking pages deep in this thread and not one mention of Damon Huard!!!!!! He played great last year and he's a FA meaning we don't have to give anything up for him! Why in the world would you trade for Carr and lose a 5th rounder and have to contuinue to pay out his CURRENT contract?????????????????????? He is in no way worth that!

Oh and one more mention of Ricky freaking Ray and I am gonna throw up!
 

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Top FA Quarterbacks

Matt Schaub, RFA, Atlanta Falcons
The free agent quarterback class is light in 2007, but teams in true need of a field general may be highly interested in Schaub. He has an NFL arm and has shown flashes of possibly being a legitimate quality starting quarterback. It is likely that just a handful of teams would aggressively pursue Schaub, but if someone is willing to pay decent money and forfeit a draft pick for Schaub, he could be lured away from his spot behind Michael Vick. In the end, Schaub’s chances of re-signing with the Falcons don’t look good, as Schaub will likely pursue a bigger role in another offense. A handful of teams could look for their starter in Atlanta.

Damon Huard, UFA, Kansas City Chiefs
Huard had fallen off the NFL map somewhat in recent seasons. After starting as the Miami Dolphins quarterback in the ’99 and ’00 seasons, he played in just four games and attempted only one pass from the ’01 season through the ’05 season. An early injury to Chiefs starter Trent Green in 2006 changed Huard’s fate. Huard played in parts of nine games while Green was out, and in those nine games, he showed that he was a quite capable NFL quarterback. Huard posted a 97.6 quarterback rating with a 60.6% completion rate, and his 11 touchdown passes to just one interception had to have made an impression on someone. Huard may be asked to play second fiddle in a new town, but if he shows the same talent that he did in replacing Green, he could make a run at a starting position, if there’s a team looking to take a risk on a veteran.

Tim Rattay UFA Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Rattay seemed to show promise in San Francisco before he was traded to Tampa Bay after the 2005 NFL season. Some analysts even speculated that the former 49ers quarterback would challenge for the starting position in Tampa Bay, but Chris Simms was given the starting role. When Simms went down to injury, the door seemed to be open for Rattay, but sixth-round pick Bruce Gradkowski was given the job. Eventually, Rattay played in the final four games of the season, starting three. He posted an 88.2 passer rating against strong competition and tossed four touchdowns to two interceptions. Rattay may not be a special quarterback, and he may not find a starting role, but he is definitely a decent insurance policy. Situations in Philadelphia and Kansas City this season showed just how valuable a backup quarterback can be, so Rattay will find work somewhere and wait for his opportunity once again.

Jeff Garcia, UFA, Philadelphia Eagles
Garcia jumped back onto the NFL scene in 2006, when he took over for injured starter Donovan McNabb. He was able to throw for 1,309 yards and ten touchdowns to just two interceptions. The Eagles won five straight games under his leadership, and earned a playoff berth. Garcia could be a solid backup on most any NFL team, but there’s a slight chance that someone tries to tempt him with a shot at a starting role. The Eagles may look to secure his services since McNabb’s health has been a concern in recent seasons, and the team knows that Garcia can still bring success.

Other Free Agent Quarterbacks

Rohan Davey, RFA, Arizona Cardinals
Shaun King, UFA, Indianapolis Colts
John Navarre, RFA, Arizona Cardinals
Tim Rattay, UFA, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Anthony Wright, UFA, Cincinnati Bengals


http://www.footballsfuture.com/2007/nfl/freeagents.html
 

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TheProphet;1376037 said:
I keep hearing alot about this Ricky Ray guy. So, I took the time to research. Quite frankly, Bowman is on to something. This guy looks to be a real winner. Let's hope Wade gives him a good long look sometime soon. However, before we all get too excited about him, be advised he is under cotnract through the end of 07. That doesn't mean we should cease discussing, as this guy is still a pup.
Kudos to Bowman in discovering this guy and thinking outside the box. That is what we need more of around these parts.
Thoughts?

You and blowmen are still peddling the same old cr**. Frito Ray is not an NFL level talent. He is a two-time loser in the NFL. He got beaten out, on a team desperate for even a 3rd string QB, by bottom -of-the-barrel- Quncy Carter. Ricky should just stay right where he is at, where he doesn't get demoted for leading the league in INTs thrown for two years straight.
 

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Doomsday101;1376496 said:
Steve Young was brought in as an eventual replacement for Montana just as Danny White came to Dallas to one day take over for an older Staubach that was the object of them being there. Who the backup is has a lot to do with where your starting QB is in his career. When Troy became the starter our backup tended to be older players who had seen action as starting QB

That's the way it worked out but that was not a certain fact. He was a good value and he was available so SF signed him. Danny White was the back up for a long time. He was the punter before he was the QB. We took advantage of an opportunity and it worked out. I see no difference in a situation like that and one like Carr, should he be available for a 5th.
 

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carphalen5150;1376495 said:
Why would I need a poll? I am not insecure about forming my own opinions without getting a collective nod from the board. For example, you disagree with me and I am fine with it.

Good to know.
 

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Matt Schaub.......but I doubt he would want to be a backup.

It would also depend what we would have to give up for him......how about Bledsoe ....Michael W.? :D
 

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i think carr would be a great option here, i mean lets say romo goes down or something, carr was dead behind the texans line so nething would be an upgrade...but what would the price be for him is the question
 
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