Who is the future at QB?

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It is indeed. However, Roger Staubach and Danny White were the only two Cowboy quarterbacks to start an NFC championship game and not be a 1st round pick.

There is absolutely no doubt that Staubach would have been drafted #1 overall without his military commitment.

Meredith, Morton Aikman...1st round.

Of the 10 quarterbacks that have won multiple Super Bowls, 6 of them 1st round picks....and five of those drafted #1 overall.

A team can get very lucky or they can get very determined when it comes to a champion quarterback.

Do the Cowboys strike anyone as being lucky?

Meredith wasn't a first round pick - he was picked in the third round by the Bears, and traded to the Cowboys for a future pick. Meredith had been signed to a personal services contract by Clint Murchison prior to the draft, and George Halas helped the Cowboys out.
 

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Jerry will move up to grab one of the top 2. WI'll likely grab JF , and why not little cost huge potential with our OL. Not to mention he has the baby sitters in place.

Little cost? To move up into the top 2? That would be a huge cost
 

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Or we could just say, this is our guy and draft him at 4. Although I'm good with either trade scenario.

This is what Jacksonville did with Bortles and in appears to have worked out for them. I'd be ok with this if they think the guy can play
 

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This is what Jacksonville did with Bortles and in appears to have worked out for them. I'd be ok with this if they think the guy can play

With Gabbert going bust JAX needed a "starting" QB which is why they took Bortles at #3 overall. The Cowboys aren't looking for a starting QB they're looking for a backup and you don't look for backups at any position in the top 5 of the draft.
 

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With Gabbert going bust JAX needed a "starting" QB which is why they took Bortles at #3 overall. The Cowboys aren't looking for a starting QB they're looking for a backup and you don't look for backups at any position in the top 5 of the draft.

imho I think the Cowboys should be looking for a starter...he can sit until Romo is done. Max 3 years..........most likely sooner.

Pick up Kap as a FA....and let Kap and the drafted QB battle it out.

After Romo is done of course.....
 

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imho I think the Cowboys should be looking for a starter...he can sit until Romo is done. Max 3 years..........most likely sooner.

Pick up Kap as a FA....and let Kap and the drafted QB battle it out.

After Romo is done of course.....

They'll be looking for a backup QB who they hope can eventually develop into a starter. They can do that later in the first round or in the second round certainly not with the 4th overall pick. We need to draft an immediate starter with that pick we have time to develop a QB for the future.

Kap has regressed over the years he hasn't developed into a consistent passer. SF made a mistake getting rid of Alex Smith who has become a better QB than Kap. The Cowboys need a backup QB who can throw the ball not a read option QB who struggles passing from the pocket.
 

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Keep an eye on Wentz. If they coach the Senior Bowl, they are going to get a very good look at him

Small school, no real competition. No, my brutha, as they say in the Colonies, we need a Goff or a Conner Cook (Mich. St.) guys with big-time experience. Wentz could pan out but I think his schooling would take a couple of extra years rather than the prime-time prospects of Goff and Cook.
The future is fast coming upon us, I don't want to EVER be caught again without viable QB options on the roster.
 

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They'll be looking for a backup QB who they hope can eventually develop into a starter. They can do that later in the first round or in the second round certainly not with the 4th overall pick. We need to draft an immediate starter with that pick we have time to develop a QB for the future.

Kap has regressed over the years he hasn't developed into a consistent passer. SF made a mistake getting rid of Alex Smith who has become a better QB than Kap. The Cowboys need a backup QB who can throw the ball not a read option QB who struggles passing from the pocket.


Thats what they may be doing. But I think its a mistake. I want them looking for Romos replacement. Someone that, if they didnt have Romo, they would start building using OJT(On the Job Training). JUst like a Bortles, or Jameison or Mariota......Thats the caliber I want them drafting. If thats there with the 4th pick.................I dont know? But I dont want a Backup.........Kap can be the backup. I want a starter, itching to get on the field. They could pick him up in the 1 -3 or wherever. But I want Romos replacement on Roster, and gaining vaulable expereince when Romo goes down, so those losses count for something. Romo , imho, is done in 2 years. Most will say 3 years and I will defer to that timeframe, but I dont think he has 3. I think he has 2. And well be lucky if we get that out of him.

We need a franchise QB. Or the promise of one, now. let him sit. He is going to get his day......and with any luck, it will be 3 years from now, after Romo wins a SB and retires.... although I do believe we will go through a Manning type siutation with Romo. Were going to have to bench him..He aint coming off the field.................


I am not sure about this....and Kap looked really bad at times. But Kaps problems started right about when Harbaughs problems started...........SF imploded. Half the team and coaching staff, quit.

-- i really need a spell checker. sorry about that.
 

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If you pick a QB at #4, he becomes the primary back up, can't put a 4th overall pick inactive on game days, he needs all the expereince he can get, from getting ready to warming up to preparing to play, etc. Besides, a 4th overall pick would be a better QB than RG3 or JFF in this system anyway, so why waste a spot on either one of those bums. I don't think they will pick a QB#4, I think they will trade out and pick one later in the draft.
 

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I'd get Manziel and draft Carson Wentz.

So how do you plan on dividing reps between Romo (the starter), JF (the back-up) and Wentz (low first/high second rounder)?

Tough to develop a #2 and a #3 QB, either way you are handicapping one if not both.
 

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Thats what they may be doing. But I think its a mistake. I want them looking for Romos replacement. Someone that, if they didnt have Romo, they would start building using OJT(On the Job Training). JUst like a Bortles, or Jameison or Mariota......Thats the caliber I want them drafting. If thats there with the 4th pick.................I dont know? But I dont want a Backup.........Kap can be the backup. I want a starter, itching to get on the field. They could pick him up in the 1 -3 or wherever. But I want Romos replacement on Roster, and gaining vaulable expereince when Romo goes down, so those losses count for something. Romo , imho, is done in 2 years. Most will say 3 years and I will defer to that timeframe, but I dont think he has 3. I think he has 2. And well be lucky if we get that out of him.

We need a franchise QB. Or the promise of one, now. let him sit. He is going to get his day......and with any luck, it will be 3 years from now, after Romo wins a SB and retires.... although I do believe we will go through a Manning type siutation with Romo. Were going to have to bench him..He aint coming off the field.................


I am not sure about this....and Kap looked really bad at times. But Kaps problems started right about when Harbaughs problems started...........SF imploded. Half the team and coaching staff, quit.

-- i really need a spell checker. sorry about that.

There's no promise of a franchise QB regardless how high you take them. We have a franchise QB who's still playing at a high level. It's not a mistake to draft a QB later in the first round or in the second round who may develop not only into a solid backup but a solid starter down the road. That would be the smartest move for this team. Some of the best QBs were drafted well past the top 10 and were able to be brought along slowly as backups and ended up developing into great starters like Aaron Rodgers. With Romo still having at least 2 good years left it would be a mistake to use the 4th overall pick on a QB who's going to have to sit for at least 2-3 years. A QB drafted that high needs to be on the field enough to develop or you run the risk of them never developing. Backup QBs don't get very many practice snaps during the season and you want a top QB to play some not stand around too long or they could go stale.

There could be a QB who may not be pro ready now but might have a bigger upside down the road than a QB taken in the top 5. Taking a top a QB at #4 overall who's itching to get on the field is not in the best interest of the team. You have to bring in a young QB who understands his role as the BACKUP and that Tony Romo is the starter. Goff isn't going to want to sit 2-3 years waiting for Romo to decline he's going to want to play. When Staubach arrived in 1969 he was pushing Landry to trade him 2 years later because he wanted to play. It would be foolish to risk the #4 overall pick on a QB who's not going to be happy with their role as a backup for the next few seasons and who may never develop into a solid NFL QB.

Although Aaron Rodgers had to sit 3 seasons he still got to attempt 59 regular season passes during his stint as the backup. As for Kap he looked as if he would become a great QB the best of the read option QBs the year he led SF to the SB but his fall from grace rivals that of RG3. As for his problems in SF they all came to a head after Harbaugh left. He led SF to a SB under Harbaugh who also made Alex Smith look like a viable NFL QB when no one else could. The problems with SF are within their management which is why they're looking for yet another HC.
 

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If you pick a QB at #4, he becomes the primary back up, can't put a 4th overall pick inactive on game days, he needs all the expereince he can get, from getting ready to warming up to preparing to play, etc. Besides, a 4th overall pick would be a better QB than RG3 or JFF in this system anyway, so why waste a spot on either one of those bums. I don't think they will pick a QB#4, I think they will trade out and pick one later in the draft.


And thats exactly what I want to happen.But who knows what your getting with a Rookie QB. 4th pick or 6th rounder. Maybe its just lost in verbage. However, I would think about carrying 3 QBs, if you think Kap or JF or RGII etc etc, has something to show and earns it in training camp. Go ahead and give him the backup spot if you think he canvwin games. Whether you draft a 4th round pick or not. Put the rookie 4th round pick at 3rd string, 3rd QB rule or something like that..... I like Kap. but whoever.

We need a QB..... its coming.
 

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There's no promise of a franchise QB regardless how high you take them. We have a franchise QB who's still playing at a high level. It's not a mistake to draft a QB later in the first round or in the second round who may develop not only into a solid backup but a solid starter down the road. That would be the smartest move for this team. Some of the best QBs were drafted well past the top 10 and were able to be brought along slowly as backups and ended up developing into great starters like Aaron Rodgers. With Romo still having at least 2 good years left it would be a mistake to use the 4th overall pick on a QB who's going to have to sit for at least 2-3 years. A QB drafted that high needs to be on the field enough to develop or you run the risk of them never developing. Backup QBs don't get very many practice snaps during the season and you want a top QB to play some not stand around too long or they could go stale.

There could be a QB who may not be pro ready now but might have a bigger upside down the road than a QB taken in the top 5. Taking a top a QB at #4 overall who's itching to get on the field is not in the best interest of the team. You have to bring in a young QB who understands his role as the BACKUP and that Tony Romo is the starter. Goff isn't going to want to sit 2-3 years waiting for Romo to decline he's going to want to play. When Staubach arrived in 1969 he was pushing Landry to trade him 2 years later because he wanted to play. It would be foolish to risk the #4 overall pick on a QB who's not going to be happy with their role as a backup for the next few seasons and who may never develop into a solid NFL QB.

Although Aaron Rodgers had to sit 3 seasons he still got to attempt 59 regular season passes during his stint as the backup. As for Kap he looked as if he would become a great QB the best of the read option QBs the year he led SF to the SB but his fall from grace rivals that of RG3. As for his problems in SF they all came to a head after Harbaugh left. He led SF to a SB under Harbaugh who also made Alex Smith look like a viable NFL QB when no one else could. The problems with SF are within their management which is why they're looking for yet another HC.


Im not sure if there are to many "pro ready" QBs. I think they start, becuase there is no one else to start! We have someone, so the 1st round QB can sit and develop just as well as a 4th rounder. I think its a crapshoot with QBs. 1st round, 6th round, Arena league, FA, etc etc.... I wouldnt be opposed to signing a guy like Kap, JF,RGII, picking one up in the first round, then getting another in the 4th round..... I know

SF had problems, and thats when Kap started to have problems. Give him a good head coach and structure, and a tough team around him and Kap can flourish..............(ohh shoot....darn....)
 

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Im not sure if there are to many "pro ready" QBs. I think they start, becuase there is no one else to start! We have someone, so the 1st round QB can sit and develop just as well as a 4th rounder. I think its a crapshoot with QBs. 1st round, 6th round, Arena league, FA, etc etc.... I wouldnt be opposed to signing a guy like Kap, JF,RGII, picking one up in the first round, then getting another in the 4th round..... I know

SF had problems, and thats when Kap started to have problems. Give him a good head coach and structure, and a tough team around him and Kap can flourish..............(ohh shoot....darn....)

I've said everything I can say on this topic and I'm not going to waste anymore time on it. I want the Cowboys to draft a QB with a premium pick but not the 4th overall pick. Kap had a good head coach in Harbaugh who led SF to an NFC title game with Alex Smith at QB and reached the Super Bowl with him at QB.
 

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I've said everything I can say on this topic and I'm not going to waste anymore time on it. I want the Cowboys to draft a QB with a premium pick but not the 4th overall pick. Kap had a good head coach in Harbaugh who led SF to an NFC title game with Alex Smith at QB and reached the Super Bowl with him at QB.

True but we don't have Harbaugh as the coach ;)
 
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