Who Is To Blame For The Star Wars Fiasco?

[speedkilz88]

The first six films reflected George Lucas' vision of how violence would be shown in his storied fable. His successors have followed suit in this era's movies. Much of what is seen on screen could easily be inserted into a storybook.

You mentioned how nongraphic Obi-Wan's death was. I would also suggest Darth Maul's death scene as another example. Certainly, Obi-Wan cuts Maul in two but all the audience sees initially is Maul's mild shock, which is followed by Maul falling down the bottomless shaft. Maul's body does not immediately separate into two halves either. Both halves disengage with the other and start bouncing off the shaft's walls after falling enough of a distance that it seems slightly 'far off' from the audience's perspective.

No blood spray. No intestines or bone particles left sizzling on Obi-Wan's lightsaber. It is like Lucas wanted the audience to accept lightsabers deliver only clean, non traumatic (to the audience at least) mortal wounds typical of "An elegant weapon... for a more civilized age."

Thread question: Did anyone in the films ever get shot by a blaster and basically just shrugged off their injury as nothing but a scratch like Leia did in Return of the Jedi? There are likely other examples but I cannot remember off the top of my head.

Lightsabers cauterize their own wounds.

Darth Maul death scene?

 

[Stash]

The first six films reflected George Lucas' vision of how violence would be shown in his storied fable. His successors have followed suit in this era's movies. Much of what is seen on screen could easily be inserted into a storybook.

You mentioned how nongraphic Obi-Wan's death was. I would also suggest Darth Maul's death scene as another example. Certainly, Obi-Wan cuts Maul in two but all the audience sees initially is Maul's mild shock, which is followed by Maul falling down the bottomless shaft. Maul's body does not immediately separate into two halves either. Both halves disengage with the other and start bouncing off the shaft's walls after falling enough of a distance that it seems slightly 'far off' from the audience's perspective.

No blood spray. No intestines or bone particles left sizzling on Obi-Wan's lightsaber. It is like Lucas wanted the audience to accept lightsabers deliver only clean, non traumatic (to the audience at least) mortal wounds typical of "An elegant weapon... for a more civilized age."

Thread question: Did anyone in the films ever get shot by a blaster and basically just shrugged off their injury as nothing but a scratch like Leia did in Return of the Jedi? There are likely other examples but I cannot remember off the top of my head.

While we're on the subject of blaster hits, can someone tell me exactly what purpose those Stromtrooper uniforms serve? I mean other than to slow someone down, impair vision, make them less agile, and apparently, attract laser fire?

For all of that armor and covering, I've yet to see one single instance where it's provided any advantages whatsoever. Heck, it doesn't even offer protection against getting your *** kicked by a blind guy with a stick!

The worst use of untold billions in equipment costs that I've ever seen!

 

[DallasEast]

Lightsabers cauterize their own wounds.

Darth Maul death scene?

Well, it seemed like his death scene at the time.

 

[DallasEast]

While we're on the subject of blaster hits, can someone tell me exactly what purpose those Stromtrooper uniforms serve? I mean other than to slow someone down, impair vision, make them less agile, and apparently, attract laser fire?

For all of that armor and covering, I've yet to see one single instance where it's provided any advantages whatsoever. Heck, it doesn't even offer protection against getting your *** kicked by a blind guy with a stick!

The worst use of untold billions in equipment costs that I've ever seen!

The uniforms are simply ceremonial tribute to Jango Fett's DNA kids. Seriously. I cannot think of any good reason why all stormtroopers wear body armor 24/7. For instance, why wear body armor while conducting everyday duties on the Death Star? Aren't you a little too over prepared for hand-to-hand combat on the baddest biggest space station in the galaxy? Officers work with stormtroopers side-by-side on the space station and they wear cloth uniforms. I agree. The body armor makes little to no sense.

 

[Roadtrip635]

The first six films reflected George Lucas' vision of how violence would be shown in his storied fable. His successors have followed suit in this era's movies. Much of what is seen on screen could easily be inserted into a storybook.

You mentioned how nongraphic Obi-Wan's death was. I would also suggest Darth Maul's death scene as another example. Certainly, Obi-Wan cuts Maul in two but all the audience sees initially is Maul's mild shock, which is followed by Maul falling down the bottomless shaft. Maul's body does not immediately separate into two halves either. Both halves disengage with the other and start bouncing off the shaft's walls after falling enough of a distance that it seems slightly 'far off' from the audience's perspective.

No blood spray. No intestines or bone particles left sizzling on Obi-Wan's lightsaber. It is like Lucas wanted the audience to accept lightsabers deliver only clean, non traumatic (to the audience at least) mortal wounds typical of "An elegant weapon... for a more civilized age."

Thread question: Did anyone in the films ever get shot by a blaster and basically just shrugged off their injury as nothing but a scratch like Leia did in Return of the Jedi? There are likely other examples but I cannot remember off the top of my head.

Or how surprisingly little if any blood came out of splitting open a tauntaun. The lighsaber may cauterize wounds, but it doesn't explain how clean those innards were.

 

[DallasEast]

Or how surprisingly little if any blood came out of splitting open a tauntaun. The lighsaber may cauterize wounds, but it doesn't explain how clean those innards were.

It was probably only me in the whole world but I kinda felt like I could really smell how bad they smell on the inside. Guess that was just good acting on Harrison Ford's part.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Absolutely, Kylo might ultimately make some sacrifice and come back to the "Light Side" in this upcoming film, but spare us the "happy force ghost" at the end crap. We ain't buyin' it.

I don’t want any redemption/sacrifice.
He has those dead, black, lifeless shark eyes that Quint spoke about.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

While we're on the subject of blaster hits, can someone tell me exactly what purpose those Stromtrooper uniforms serve? I mean other than to slow someone down, impair vision, make them less agile, and apparently, attract laser fire?

For all of that armor and covering, I've yet to see one single instance where it's provided any advantages whatsoever. Heck, it doesn't even offer protection against getting your *** kicked by a blind guy with a stick!

The worst use of untold billions in equipment costs that I've ever seen!

The stormtroopers serve only to contrast dark Darth Vader outfit. Lol
Nothing more.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Lightsabers cauterize their own wounds.

Darth Maul death scene?

Well...
He

Did



Die!




Everyone knows it lol

 

[DallasEast]

The stormtroopers serve only to contrast dark Darth Vader outfit. Lol
Nothing more.

Explain Death Troopers uniforms. Just overlook me. I have gone full Star Wars geekdom.

 

[DallasEast]

Well...
He

Did



Die!




Everyone knows it lol

Well, technically Maul shows up at the end of Solo speaking with Qi'ra--which fell chronologically years after the events of The Phantom Menace. So @speedkilz88 was right. Perhaps Maul was brought back to life by the dark side of The Force! <insert ominous music here>

Accelerating to geekdom hyperspeed.

 

[Stash]

I don’t want any redemption/sacrifice.
He has those dead, black, lifeless shark eyes that Quint spoke about.

I think you're going to be disappointed then, or I am. From the moment the character was introduced as the child of Han and Leila, I expected a conflicted character with an eventual turn.

 

[Stash]

The stormtroopers serve only to contrast dark Darth Vader outfit. Lol
Nothing more.

That and to make everyone else look good.

They were the first step in "sterilizing violence". No blood or guts, just clean deaths. And that was followed up when technology allowed, with droids and faceless clones getting carved up. Nobody cares about them. It's the same with the Marvel films, the heroes don't beat up people, they beat up nameless, faceless CGI hordes.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Explain Death Troopers uniforms. Just overlook me. I have gone full Star Wars geekdom.

Yah... well.. duh!

In Rogue One movie that didn’t need to be made.(oooh, let’s make storm troopers different) wowwwwww...
Not on screen with Vader anyway

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Well, technically Maul shows up at the end of Solo speaking with Qi'ra--which fell chronologically years after the events of The Phantom Menace. So @speedkilz88 was right. Perhaps Maul was brought back to life by the dark side of The Force! <insert ominous music here>


Accelerating to geekdom hyperspeed.

I know.. I know.. the story of how he is back.

Bring Mace back in ep 9
Related to Finn.

 

[Runwildboys]

The stormtroopers serve only to contrast dark Darth Vader outfit. Lol
Nothing more.

Is it possible the stormtroopers' uniforms were just to disguise that they were Boba Fett's clones? BTW, when did they stop using clones? Finn obviously wasn't one. Why do I care enough to be confused by this?

 

[DallasEast]

Is it possible the stormtroopers' uniforms were just to disguise that they were Boba Fett's clones? BTW, when did they stop using clones? Finn obviously wasn't one. Why do I care enough to be confused by this?

The transition from an all-clone military to an eventual enlisted soldier system happened over time. The Empire was vast and powerful but money and resources were the main catalysts that influenced change.

 

[Runwildboys]

The transition from an all-clone military to an eventual enlisted soldier system happened over time. The Empire was vast and powerful but money and resources were the main catalysts that influenced change.

Hypothesis or known fact?

 

[Roadtrip635]

The transition from an all-clone military to an eventual enlisted soldier system happened over time. The Empire was vast and powerful but money and resources were the main catalysts that influenced change.

It seems like the clone army happened because they needed a large army, secretly. They couldn't just go out and recruit or draft people openly without tipping their hands on their desires, but after the initial victories that was no longer the case. It couldn't be just because of money or resources as they are more powerful and wealthy than they were before.

 

[DallasEast]

Hypothesis or known fact?

Hypothesis. You know. For something that is based completely in fiction.