Who stays/who goes within our DL Rotation

[gtb1943]

I agree the DL needs to be the focus, but cannot avoid the offense entirely. The offense was just as bad as the defense this year. Have to upgrade the talent at both the RB/WR positions. They must figure out how to score more points in the red zone to help out the defense. DT, WR, RB are my priority needs!

Draft a RB in the third and get a FA WR

 

[Mr_437]

DE - Parsons, Williams, Golston, Kneeland
DT - Mazi, 1st round pick, UFA, 5th rounder

I think Osa gets away although I'd like to sign him and move him up n down the DL. Golston is a true 5 tech DE/LDE, the type of player a good defense needs to help vs run.

Stocked draft with DL perfect for Cowboys needs, so I'd like 3 DL (NT, DE, NT) to load up. Also, hopefully Dallas brings in a decent vet at DT or just re-sign Osa.

 

[cnuball21]

respectfully disagree. anything planned or spent to be a contender with #4 is wasted. all plans & spending should be about setting up life after #4.

I don’t see how - we’ve never had a championship caliber team with him here so don’t know why we wouldn’t try our best to do that.

I’ve always said I’m open to moving on at QB…as long as we’re going to upgrade the position. That’s a lot harder than most casual fans realize.

 

[cnuball21]

DE - Parsons, Williams, Golston, Kneeland
DT - Mazi, 1st round pick, UFA, 5th rounder

I think Osa gets away although I'd like to sign him and move him up n down the DL. Golston is a true 5 tech DE/LDE, the type of player a good defense needs to help vs run.

Stocked draft with DL perfect for Cowboys needs, so I'd like 3 DL (NT, DE, NT) to load up. Also, hopefully Dallas brings in a decent vet at DT or just re-sign Osa.

This doesn’t make our DL any better next year…it’s probably worse.

Rookie DTs take time and usually don’t produce year 1.

 

[McKDaddy]

I don’t see how - we’ve never had a championship caliber team with him here so don’t know why we wouldn’t try our best to do that.

I’ve always said I’m open to moving on at QB…as long as we’re going to upgrade the position. That’s a lot harder than most casual fans realize.

He has never carried his share of the load even when young & healthy. Next years version will likely make this years version look good in comparison.

I think everyone understands that finding a truly elite QB is difficult. Upgrading from him at this stage of his career doesn't require elite. Rush just keeps showing how low the bar is.

 

[darthseinfeld]

I understand that most dt’s take some development time, but that is usually not the case for top picks at the position. Carter for example, was good as soon as he hit the field.

Exactly. Smith was always going to take time because he was very raw. He was a mess at Michigan. Thats why I thought we were looking at him in the 2nd round when his name startes coming up the day of the draft. One thing with Smith is he didnt have that one skill to hang his hat on

Look at a couple of the guys taken early in the 2nd in 2024. Newton and Sweat were both quality players out of the gate

 

[cnuball21]

He has never carried his share of the load even when young & healthy. Next years version will likely make this years version look good in comparison.

I think everyone understands that finding a truly elite QB is difficult. Upgrading from him at this stage of his career doesn't require elite. Rush just keeps showing how low the bar is.

I mean the guy is coming off an MVP race he should’ve won…but ok. Again fine if you want to move on but I’d love to know how we’re going to upgrade the position.

If you can tell me how sign me up.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Over 50+ million in restructures for Dak and Lamb and that doesn’t consider other moves that could likely free up another 10/20 million.

I know its Fisher, but supposedly we can get almost 100m in cap space

https://athlonsports.com/nfl/inside...rescott-ceedee-lamb-micah-parsons-jerry-jones

 

[darthseinfeld]

He has never carried his share of the load even when young & healthy. Next years version will likely make this years version look good in comparison.

I think everyone understands that finding a truly elite QB is difficult. Upgrading from him at this stage of his career doesn't require elite. Rush just keeps showing how low the bar is.

You are married to Prescott for 2 more years. Love him or hate him, that is the reality

 

[darthseinfeld]

You literally can…with a few restructures / cuts etc they could be big spenders this FA.

The concept is simple…the FO just won’t do it.

Bland walks…you don’t pay 2 CBs top contracts.

Id even consider trading him in the offseason. They could get a top 40 pick for him. Diggs is the better player, and his contract is older. Gives you more flexibility

 

[darthseinfeld]

I think Osa is a very solid player…he just needs help in more of a rotation.

I’d definitely consider extending him if the price is right.

Same for Golston.

I think if we draft a DT high and still retain Osa that could be optimal. I think Smith will basically be Malcolm Brown (for better or worse) next year. I think if you add a catalytic player like Harmon and can cut Osa's usuage to about 50% of the snaps, you could have a strong interior

 

[Cowboyny]

Exactly. Smith was always going to take time because he was very raw. He was a mess at Michigan. Thats why I thought we were looking at him in the 2nd round when his name startes coming up the day of the draft. One thing with Smith is he didnt have that one skill to hang his hat on

Look at a couple of the guys taken early in the 2nd in 2024. Newton and Sweat were both quality players out of the gate

Mazi was just like Tyler Smith/Guyton on the other side, more of a traits pick that needed a lot of development. He all saw him as a mid 2nd rd prospect and even had Benton ahead of him. The prospects we are talking about are sure fire 1st rd prospects, they should make an impact as soon as they hit the field. Sure, some development will be needed, but not a long, development curve is expected.

Question is, do they overpay a player like Osa, if they are going to draft one of these stud DT's? In my mind, Osa is a solid player but never will be an elite starter. I guess it will come down to his value on the open market.

 

[Cowboyny]

Draft a RB in the third and get a FA WR

I would love to go the fa route, but question is who is out there to sign? Poor WR fa class

 

[Cowboyny]

This doesn’t make our DL any better next year…it’s probably worse.

Rookie DTs take time and usually don’t produce year 1.

I agree, cannot just throw draft picks at the position. Going to either have to resign Osa or sign another fa starter. Might also have to add another 1T for depth.

 

[cnuball21]

I would love to go the fa route, but question is who is out there to sign? Poor WR fa class

Higgins is the only good one and we won’t pay him.

Diggs would be the most Cowboys signing ever. Big name out of his prime fresh off an injury.

 

[McKDaddy]

I mean the guy is coming off an MVP race he should’ve won…but ok. Again fine if you want to move on but I’d love to know how we’re going to upgrade the position.

If you can tell me how sign me up.

We'll just have to agree to disagree about MVP.

No one knows an exact answer. You take the best shots you can. No one knew Mahomes was going to be Mahomes, not even the Chiefs. But they need to commit themselves to the task.

 

[reddyuta]

NO MICHIGAN PLAYERS EVER.

 

[McKDaddy]

You are married to Prescott for 2 more years. Love him or hate him, that is the reality

The organization may be but not me.

 

[darthseinfeld]

The organization may be but not me.

The organization being married to him is what matters. They cant move on from him for another two years

 

[cnuball21]

We'll just have to agree to disagree about MVP.

No one knows an exact answer. You take the best shots you can. No one knew Mahomes was going to be Mahomes, not even the Chiefs. But they need to commit themselves to the task.

We don’t have to agree on it the voters did. If I’m wrong he was runner up.

And you can look through the 1st round QBs over the last 4 years or so and there’s like 3/4 guys I’d take over Dak. The hit rate is incredibly low. If you think your guy is top 6/8/10 or whatever you think Dak is it’s way easier to build around that guy than trying to find the next Mahomes.

This isn’t a pro Dak thing either - I’d be making the exact same argument for multiple QBs I think he’s better than.