Who still thinks Zeke was a mistake at #4?

[DC Cowboy]

96 yards on the ground
52 yards in the air

Kid is best back in the league.

Anyone who still thinks that is just doing it because of their anti Zeke agenda at this point.

not to mention a 63 yard run called back.

 

[tyke1doe]

I was for Bosa early, then switched to Zeke shortly after. I don't think we are 6-1 with Morris or[/b] Lamar Miller[/b] leading, he is good but he isn't Zeke.

FTFY.

 

[tyke1doe]

He's got an ANVIL on his shoulders...literally. Dude's head looks like an anvil. Takes courage to tackle him in the open field. He's a more rugged, physical version of All Day. My god he's physical. I've watched NFL football since 1977 boys. Only guy I've seen run that hard and punish guys similarly was Walter Payton. That's IT.

He does have a HUGE melon.

 

[DC Cowboy]

I wanted us to draft Elliott since before the draft, so I've been on his bandwagon since before he was a Cowboy. I was afraid the team was going to draft Ramsey (who I did like, just not as much as EZE) and when the commissioner said "the Dallas Cowboys select Ezekiel Elliott", I said "holy crap, they did it!"

Had there been a dominant DE there, I would have wanted him but there was nobody there that was close to being as good a defender as Zeke is a RB. Just the best player there by far, IMO.

Having said all of that... it is real easy to love the EZE pick now that we still ended up picking our franchise QB, a good DT and a good DB in the same draft.

But wow, is Elliott a special player.

I was on the Zeke bandwagon as well but like you said the other picks solidified the choice as well.

 

[Clove]

Zeke will have a career game next week. Book it!

 

[ConceptCoop]

Anyone who still thinks that is just doing it because of their anti Zeke agenda at this point.

No. Everyone knew the RB would have the most impact as a rookie. The draft was never about one season. There's a reason that RBs are worth so little on the market. You can disagree and think Zeke will buck that trend. That's fine. But no need to belittle those who disagree with you. Zeke needs to stay healthy and produce for 6+ seasons to be the right pick. I hope he's the next LT2, but it's too early write that in stone.

 

[Hardline]

Zeke is doing exactly what I told you all he was going to do months before the draft. I'm not suprises by Zeke's success, I expected it.
I was 100% correct.

 

[ringmaster]

Anyone who believes it was a mistake is just being stubborn at this point.

Exactly anyone who still thinks drafting Elliott is a mistake is an idiot plain and simple. We may have still drafted Dak but if we had Ramsey last night at safety and not Elliott at RB the Cowboys loses that game last night.

 

[ringmaster]

And that's not even counting the 60+ yards he should have if it weren't for a terrible holding call.

Zeke is a force! On and off the field, he has been an integral part of turning this team around.

Yes that was a crappy holding call on Yosimite on that big Elliott 63yd run and I really hate James Boger and his officiating crew and the minute I heard it was his crew that would be officiating this game I knew then it would be a flag fest and they didn't disappoint.

 

[morasp]

He clearly is a difference maker. I just hope he is as durable as Emmitt was. Jimmy didn't worry to much about his workload. I remember a an Eagles game Emmitt was so tired he looked like he didn't know where he was.

 

[tyke1doe]

I wanted Zeke at pick #4 because I believed he was a dynamic back.

But let's stop acting like those who didn't want him at pick #4 didn't have a legitimate issue.

Running backs aren't as valued as they once were. Of course, Zeke appears to be that rare exception to the rule, but I can understand the reluctance in not wanting to take him fourth overall.

It's not an either/or situation.

 

[shabazz]

I wanted Zeke at pick #4 because I believed he was a dynamic back.

But let's stop acting like those who didn't want him at pick #4 didn't have a legitimate issue.

Running backs aren't as valued as they once were. Of course, Zeke appears to be that rare exception to the rule, but I can understand the reluctance in not wanting to take him fourth overall.

It's not an either/or situation.

and yet 2 teams were willing to give Demarco Murray 6- 8mil per year.

 

[joseephuss]

The Ravens confirmed that they wanted to trade up to #4 from #6 and their plans were to take Ramsey. Elliott, in an extreme likelihood, would have been there at #6.

I was more bothered by Garrett acting like an idiot in the draft war room wanting to put in the selection immediately. You have nothing to lose and everything to win by waiting.





RH

But how would they have gotten Paxton Lynch? The Ravens may have confirmed they wanted to trade up, but did they confirm what they were willing to offer to do so. Obviously not enough. And it would have taken quite a bit for Dallas to then turn around a throw a package together to get in position to get Paxton Lynch.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

The Ravens confirmed that they wanted to trade up to #4 from #6 and their plans were to take Ramsey. Elliott, in an extreme likelihood, would have been there at #6.
RH

I thought I read that the Cowboys were trying to work a trade with the Ravens but the Ravens weren't offering much, maybe just a 4th rounder to swap #4 and #6. The Cowboys said no. It would have been a moot point because I think the Cowboys and Jerry said they would have asked who the Ravens were interested in before doing a deal. I thought Ozzie said it would have been for Zeke.

 

[visionary]

I would like to know.
Amazing game.
He willed us to so many yards.

I was on that train during the draft but I've jumped off

The guy is really really good
Can't complain

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Zeke is doing exactly what I told you all he was going to do months before the draft. I'm not suprises by Zeke's success, I expected it.
I was 100% correct.

Everyone knew he'd be productive behind this line and in this offense. Literally nobody disputed that. While all of you were watching Zeke run through giant holes (nad he maximizes everything in front of him and falls forward which I love) I was watching little Darren Sproles who is on a 1 year 4.5M dollar deal...and didn't cost the eagles a draft pick.....i'm watching him be a more effective runner than Zeke last night (from a ypc perspective).

This is what people don't get. You can get productive runners anywhere. Devonte Booker had an effective game yesterday. Robert Kelly did as well in Washington. You have Spencer Ware keeping Jamal Charles on the shelf. Jay Ajayi? Old men Gore and Forte? Isiah Crowell? Even our castoff Christine Michael is doing ok. Zeke is better than all those guys yes. But he's also more expensive. He also came with a huge opportunity cost.

This is a simple argument guys. I THOUGHT ZEKE WOULD BE AWESOMELY EFFECTIVE IN THIS OFFENSE. I also know that RBs are rarely worth a first round pick...yet alone one in the top 5. For a team that has so little money and talent on defense it was a huge waste. Yuge.

 

[visionary]

There are many of us who thought Zeke would be productive but didn't think Zeke should have been the pick. It's pretty simple if you take a second to think about it.

I agree and I was in the same camp

But at this point he has proven that he was the right choice and worth the 4th overall pick

This guy already does things on the field almost no other back can do
If he does not get injured he has the chance to be an all time great

 

[iceberg]

Dude, the thread title asks who "thinks" Zeke was a mistake, not who "thought" he was one.

actually it asks who STILL thinks, meaning they at one time did, do they still? so to "still" think it you would have had to have thought it to begin with.

in any event, the main thing i'm saying is so people disagreed with the pick at the time. this thread *seems* to be calling out the people who THOUGHT that with the benefit of 7 games played so far. i just don't get the point of threads calling people out who have been proven that they're likely wrong in their initial assessment. i don't think i've ever seen someone start a thread going LORD I WAS SO WRONG...

 

[Kaiser]

Everyone knew he'd be productive behind this line and in this offense. Literally nobody disputed that. While all of you were watching Zeke run through giant holes (nad he maximizes everything in front of him and falls forward which I love) I was watching little Darren Sproles who is on a 1 year 4.5M dollar deal...and didn't cost the eagles a draft pick.....i'm watching him be a more effective runner than Zeke last night (from a ypc perspective).

This is what people don't get. You can get productive runners anywhere. Devonte Booker had an effective game yesterday. Robert Kelly did as well in Washington. You have Spencer Ware keeping Jamal Charles on the shelf. Jay Ajayi? Old men Gore and Forte? Isiah Crowell? Even our castoff Christine Michael is doing ok. Zeke is better than all those guys yes. But he's also more expensive. He also came with a huge opportunity cost.

This is a simple argument guys. I THOUGHT ZEKE WOULD BE AWESOMELY EFFECTIVE IN THIS OFFENSE. I also know that RBs are rarely worth a first round pick...yet alone one in the top 5. For a team that has so little money and talent on defense it was a huge waste. Yuge.

Not drafting RBs high is the right rule, but the rules are made for the many and not the few. Zeke is the few - he was BPA and filled a gaping need and plays a skill position.

The other part of that argument is that taking a defensive player at 4 was likely a huge step down in quality.

You can get by with journeymen RBs but you aren't going to be a dominant team. You will with Zeke. And Sproles had a better YPC last night but he only has two games this season with more than 10 carries and this was his season high with 15 carries. If you tried to make him your full time RB over a full season he would last four games before he landed on the IR with an injury.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Not drafting RBs high is the right rule, but the rules are made for the many and not the few. Zeke is the few - he was BPA and filled a gaping need and plays a skill position.

The other part of that argument is that taking a defensive player at 4 was likely a huge step down in quality.

You can get by with journeymen RBs but you aren't going to be a dominant team. You will with Zeke. And Sproles had a better YPC last night but he only has two games this season with more than 10 carries and this was his season high with 15 carries. If you tried to make him your full time RB over a full season he would last four games before he landed on the IR with an injury.

RB is never a gaping need. And certainly less so for a team with our line. We turned McFadden an old bad scheme fit into a pro bowler. By all means draft a RB. Just not at 4. And again I'll point to Sproles who last night was every bit the weapon Zeke was. With less help around him.

And we'll have to agree to disagree that Ramsey as a prospect was a "huge step down" from Zeke as a prospect. I'm happy to side with every NFL GM and scout.