Why are the Watkins Fans So Afraid of Bringing in Competition?

[InmanRoshi]

You guys keep saying this... just because Parcells made that change doesnt mean it was the right change.

Parcells was the biggest Watkins Kool Aid drinker, aside from the people on this board.

 

[theogt]

Parcells was Watkins biggest Kool Aid drinker .. aside from this board.

Are you actually trying to make rational points here or are you intentionally acting uninformed?

 

[TEK2000]

Are you actually trying to make rational points here or are you intentionally acting uninformed?

HAHAHA :laugh2: Good stuff man.

 

[smarta5150]

Parcells was Watkins biggest Kool Aid drinker .. aside from this board.

Parcells has kissed Keith Davis and later pulled him in the season for Watkins, whats you point?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You guys keep saying this... just because Parcells made that change doesnt mean it was the right change.

After he was benched only tow teams had a WR catch a pass of over 30 yards. When he came back two temas did. That is twice the rateof before.

 

[smarta5150]

After he was benched only tow teams had a WR catch a pass of over 30 yards. When he came back two temas did. That is twice the rateof before.

links?

 

[theogt]

After he was benched only tow teams had a WR catch a pass of over 30 yards. When he came back two temas did. That is twice the rateof before.

Who had the assigned coverage on those plays? What was the down? What was the coverage call? Do you know any of these things?

 

[smarta5150]

Who had the assigned coverage on those plays? What was the down? What was the coverage call? Do you know any of these things?

People should not talk out of what they sit on... I would love to know these as well... heck, I would just like a reliable Stat sheet to verify his statements.

 

[the kid 05]

The only CB better than Landry or Nelson is Hall. Ross is not as good of value at 22 as those tow are and Hall isnt going to fall. Those tow may not either.

In FA you have Clements and when you talk about money hes going to get top dollar and then Babineaux and Grant.

the safety market is better than the CB market.

lnadry, grant, nelson and Babineaux, Ross - FS

Hall, Clements - cb's

fs and cb's get paid a bit different

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Its on ESPN.com stats i could care less if you dont believe me.

And Theo you really are missing the boat here. You are full of refutation here but you do absolutely NOTHING statistically or otherwise to show how Watkins was any good last year.

You have been cited several examples by IR which you just ignore on how he blew it. I give you stas on how the team gives up deep balls at twice the rate when hes starting. What do you give?

Nothing. The guy is a marginal player who was way over his head last year. He shouldnt have started at all but he was forced into.

Hes this years Rob Pettiti but at least Robs dad was here leading the charge. Watkins didnt do anything other than give up deep balls last year.

Pat Watkins + Rob Pettiti.

 

[the kid 05]

Coming back to the math thing... exactly how is Two Teams and Two Teams "twice the rate of before"?

i guess it goes along with those 2+2=22 things.......?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Coming back to the math thing... exactly how is Two Teams and Two Teams "twice the rate of before"?

its out of games played chachi he was out for 6 games and finished the last three.

2 out 6 is a third or 1/3 while 2 out of 3 is two thirds. Do we need to go back to middle school or will that satisfy you?

 

[TEK2000]

Its on ESPN.com stats i could care less if you dont believe me.

And Theo you really are missing the boat here. You are full of refutation here but you do absolutely NOTHING statistically or otherwise to show how Watkins was any good last year.

You have been cited several examples by IR which you just ignore on how he blew it. I give you stas on how the team gives up deep balls at twice the rate when hes starting. What do you give?

Nothing. The guy is a marginal player who was way over his head last year. He shouldnt have started at all but he was forced into.

Hes this years Rob Pettiti but at least Robs dad was here leading the charge. Watkins didnt do anything other than give up deep balls last year.

Pat Watkins + Rob Pettiti.

Care to provide a link to the stats?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

lnadry, grant, nelson and Babineaux, Ross - FS

Hall, Clements - cb's

fs and cb's get paid a bit different

exactly upgrading FS is cheaper and thus more efficient for the upgrade we would see.

 

[the kid 05]

Its on ESPN.com stats i could care less if you dont believe me.

And Theo you really are missing the boat here. You are full of refutation here but you do absolutely NOTHING statistically or otherwise to show how Watkins was any good last year.

You have been cited several examples by IR which you just ignore on how he blew it. I give you stas on how the team gives up deep balls at twice the rate when hes starting. What do you give?

Nothing. The guy is a marginal player who was way over his head last year. He shouldnt have started at all but he was forced into.

Hes this years Rob Pettiti but at least Robs dad was here leading the charge. Watkins didnt do anything other than give up deep balls last year.

Pat Watkins + Rob Pettiti.

show me your stats and i'll show you mine

 

[TEK2000]

its out of games played chachi he was out for 6 games and finished the last three.

2 out 6 is a third or 1/3 while 2 out of 3 is two thirds. Do we need to go back to middle school or will that satisfy you?

Be sure and leave out the first 6 games of the season in which he started.

 

[the kid 05]

exactly upgrading FS is cheaper and thus more efficient for the upgrade we would see.

not if we draft one in the first round, that will easly give up a ton of money or if we sign one from free agnecy who has a big name attached, then our lone 5th round draft pick from last season

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Care to provide a link to the stats?

HERE is the player page which i looked it up at.

 

[Clove]

If Watkins was a first rounder, we would not hear this argument.

The fact is, the 3 TDs Watkins gave up were all rookie mistakes and happened early in the year. He was in position to make every play.. Had he been totally burned, then I would have a problem.

He did as good as every rookie, and his INTs are IMO, consisdered superior to even the greats in their rookie year.

Sean Taylor is the only FS that has surpassed Watkins as a rookie, but his INT production has taken a dive. He had 1 INT this year, and gave up a heck of a lot of TDs with 1 INT to show for it - He was drafted top 10, I think he was the 5th choice that year.

I can guarantee you Watkins didn't give up nearly that many TDs in his rookie year. Your issues with Watkins makes no sense, this entire argument is childish.

 

[theogt]

And Theo you really are missing the boat here. You are full of refutation here but you do absolutely NOTHING statistically or otherwise to show how Watkins was any good last year.

I don't think you get how this works. You seem like a reasonably intelligent fellow. When someone makes a claim, it is their burden to prove that claim. You can't make a claim, have someone say, "prove it," and then state that their inability to disprove it is a convincing argument for your original claim. You have yet to make a single utterance in this thread that remotely proves your claim. You simply restate it, over and over and over. Hence, you're entering the eduncan22 stratosphere.

You have been cited several examples by IR which you just ignore on how he blew it. I give you stas on how the team gives up deep balls at twice the rate when hes starting. What do you give?

Surely you understand how this proves nothing. The team can give up 10 times as many deep balls with Watkins in the game. That doesn't really tell us anything about Watkins, however. You need to demonsrate that Watkins was the problem.

Hes this years Rob Pettiti but at least Robs dad was here leading the charge. Watkins didnt do anything other than give up deep balls last year.

Well, he did get 3 INTs and 4 passes defensed, which is more than any other rookie FS in his class. I'm sure you'd be hard pressed to find too many rookie FS's in history that had those kinds of numbers his rookie season.