Why are the Watkins Fans So Afraid of Bringing in Competition?

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I can understand liking the kid. After wathing highlights from TC las season i was waiting for the guy to step up and seize that spot and never look back. He never did and midseason we are signing retreads to try and shore up the spot.

He came back and played average I suppose for what would want from a FS and still so many here bristle at the idea of drafting Nelson, Landry or Merriweather or signing the like of Grant or Babineaux.

What on earth makes anyone think that Watkins at FS is in any way a sure thing and how in any way shape or form is competition a bad thing?

I look at our roster and outside of free safety where its Watkins and a prayer the only other spot where we are thinner is guard where its Proctor and a prayer which makes me want to puke.

Handing Watkins the FS job and not bringing in competition if for no other than reason that one of them will be the backup is about the worst move we can make outside of starting Proctor.
 
If you draft a FS highly (my counter to soonly) then you have to pay him the money. A FA will eat up a lot of money as well. Baseball is an example of what happens. You have two guys of same skill, you always keep the one you are paying more money to, regardless. Then the high priced guy lays down on you so he doesn't get hrut and can keep making the big bucks. Meanwhile, the guy you et go continues to improve and you wind up wishing you had kept him.

I am sure everyone can come up with examples of this. Just ask the Skins!
 
FuzzyLumpkins;1395912 said:
I can understand liking the kid. After wathing highlights from TC las season i was waiting for the guy to step up and seize that spot and never look back. He never did and midseason we are signing retreads to try and shore up the spot.

He came back and played average I suppose for what would want from a FS and still so many here bristle at the idea of drafting Nelson, Landry or Merriweather or signing the like of Grant or Babineaux.

What on earth makes anyone think that Watkins at FS is in any way a sure thing and how in any way shape or form is competition a bad thing?

I look at our roster and outside of free safety where its Watkins and a prayer the only other spot where we are thinner is guard where its Proctor and a prayer which makes me want to puke.

Handing Watkins the FS job and not bringing in competition if for no other than reason that one of them will be the backup is about the worst move we can make outside of starting Proctor.

Competition is good but drafting a FS in the first round pretty much ensures there won't be a competition. I would be all for bringing in someone to push Watkins but not at the price of a 1st round pick.
 
I was just looking for a thread talking about Watkins, and whether or not he needs competition. Whew.

I found it.
 
It's always good to have a vet to back up the spot but I'm really expecting Watkins to get it together this year...
 
FuzzyLumpkins;1395912 said:
I can understand liking the kid. After wathing highlights from TC las season i was waiting for the guy to step up and seize that spot and never look back. He never did and midseason we are signing retreads to try and shore up the spot.

He came back and played average I suppose for what would want from a FS and still so many here bristle at the idea of drafting Nelson, Landry or Merriweather or signing the like of Grant or Babineaux.

What on earth makes anyone think that Watkins at FS is in any way a sure thing and how in any way shape or form is competition a bad thing?

I look at our roster and outside of free safety where its Watkins and a prayer the only other spot where we are thinner is guard where its Proctor and a prayer which makes me want to puke.

Handing Watkins the FS job and not bringing in competition if for no other than reason that one of them will be the backup is about the worst move we can make outside of starting Proctor.


We do it just to make people mad...looks like it worked. ;) :p:
 
superpunk;1395925 said:
I was just looking for a thread talking about Watkins, and whether or not he needs competition. Whew.

I found it.

Hey brah i aim to serve. :thumbup:
 
FuzzyLumpkins;1395912 said:
I can understand liking the kid. After wathing highlights from TC las season i was waiting for the guy to step up and seize that spot and never look back. He never did and midseason we are signing retreads to try and shore up the spot.

He came back and played average I suppose for what would want from a FS and still so many here bristle at the idea of drafting Nelson, Landry or Merriweather or signing the like of Grant or Babineaux.

What on earth makes anyone think that Watkins at FS is in any way a sure thing and how in any way shape or form is competition a bad thing?

I look at our roster and outside of free safety where its Watkins and a prayer the only other spot where we are thinner is guard where its Proctor and a prayer which makes me want to puke.

Handing Watkins the FS job and not bringing in competition if for no other than reason that one of them will be the backup is about the worst move we can make outside of starting Proctor.

Afraid has nothing to do with but the fact is if your going out and taking a FS with your 1st pick in the draft then your not looking to bring in competition you have already made up you mind. If by some chance Dallas did take a FS with the 1st I would fully expect him to get every chance you can give because of the commitment you’re making with a 1st rd draft choice. At this time I would rather see Dallas stick with Watkins and see what he can do with hopefully a better pass rush than we have seen as of late. If you want to bring in competition then draft a FS later in the draft
 
I am a huge Watkins fan, and one who believes that he is the future at FS for us.

I don't know how many people here, if any, share my opinion on this topic, but this is my thought on the competition question:

I really don't think it is so much an issue with Watkins' fans that people want competition in the FS spot, i think it is a good idea.

My problem is the threads that basically say we have to draft a FS 1st round or get a high-priced FA b/c we have no FS. That was our problem LAST year, this year we have a guy who at the end of the year looked like he was finally comfortable.

Let's not forget that the two biggest knocks people put on him (1st game vs Eagles and 1st game vs Giants), he was in position to make plays, just didn't make a play on the ball. I said it then, and i'll say it now, at least he was sin the correct position, and not trailing 20 yds behind (Keith Davis).

At the end of the year (vs Falcons, vs Lions) he was going up and making plays. That pick he got vs DET was what we expected when hearing the stories out of training camp.

Watkins definitely has the skills, and I for one think he will become a very good FS to compliment Roy.

As i said earlier, competition is a good idea, everyone needs motivation to play better every week, and heaven forbid Watkins gets hurt, we need to feel good about whoever would step in.

Make no mistake, we need another FS, but for depth, not because we do not have one who can play.
 
FuzzyLumpkins;1395939 said:
Why does everyone think Im always mad??

Im not mad really.

Because we are evil...that's why we started this in the first place.

Geez...Fuzzy get with the program buddy. ;) :p:
 
So basically you dont see Watkins being able to outplay a first round draft pick?

I mean unless we dont pick up a guard in FA whoever we pick up in the first round is not going to automatically start anywhere on our roster.

You guys just want to hand Watkins the starting job. He doesnt deserve that.
 
BrAinPaiNt;1395945 said:
Because we are evil...that's why we started this in the first place.

Geez...Fuzzy get with the program buddy. ;) :p:

Youre not evil. Im evil.

And youre saying I need to get with the program?

:D
 
FuzzyLumpkins;1395950 said:
So basically you dont see Watkins being able to outplay a first round draft pick?

I mean unless we dont pick up a guard in FA whoever we pick up in the first round is not going to automatically start anywhere on our roster.

You guys just want to hand Watkins the starting job. He doesnt deserve that.


Well currently he's the best we have at the position unless we move Henry over...
 
FuzzyLumpkins;1395950 said:
So basically you dont see Watkins being able to outplay a first round draft pick?

I mean unless we dont pick up a guard in FA whoever we pick up in the first round is not going to automatically start anywhere on our roster.

You guys just want to hand Watkins the starting job. He doesnt deserve that.

No if I take one with the 1st I have already made up my mind. You take a guy in the 1st rd who you feel is the future of the team your not using that pick to add competition.
 
Do we really need to put another high pick or big FA money into the secondary?

Fix the pass rush and you will likely fix the FS problem.
 
Derinyar;1395959 said:
Do we really need to put another high pick or big FA money into the secondary?

Fix the pass rush and you will likely fix the FS problem.

My feeling as well. Dallas has put a lot of pressure on the secondary because of a lack of pressure and you can't expect CB and S to cover 5 to 6 seconds and consistently do the job. Even the best will get burned if you’re not getting the pressure on the QB
 
Derinyar;1395959 said:
Do we really need to put another high pick or big FA money into the secondary?

Fix the pass rush and you will likely fix the FS problem.

:hammer:
 
Doomsday101;1395955 said:
No if I take one with the 1st I have already made up my mind. You take a guy in the 1st rd who you feel is the future of the team your not using that pick to add competition.

Thats just false. i we draft a WR its not as if TO is going to be brushed aside or ifwe get a LB then its goodbye to Ware and Carp or if we get a NT it means Ferg is hosed.

If a FS drops and is value at our spot we have to pick him just as if its a WR or LB or NT or whatever.
 

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