Why did we have to trade R. Switzer?

[OmerV]

Ok, that changes my position on that then. Maybe we can get something out of him like the purple drinker and the LB that had one or 2 good years with us and then left us.

I hope so. I'm sure Oakland didn't think he was quite the player they hoped, so really it came down to we had too many receives, particularly slot type receivers, and they had a player they weren't getting as much production from as they anticipated, and both sides are hoping the change in scenery will be of benefit.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Who knows but we traded him for a guy that will get cut.

if we kept switzer...wouldn't he be on the short cut list.....

 

[TheSkaven]

Good responses from everybody. But the bottom line is that it’s a numbers game.

With Tavon Austin, even if he counts as a RB, they’re only keeping 5 wide receivers. As it is now, even without Switz, it’s going to be a tough decision. I’m not sure he would have made the team, honestly. He probably wouldn’t have.

And Jihad’s upside is big. He wasn’t right for that scheme, but he’s going to fit in well here.

 

[DFWJC]

Good responses from everybody. But the bottom line is that it’s a numbers game.

With Tavon Austin, even if he counts as a RB, they’re only keeping 5 wide receivers. As it is now, even without Switz, it’s going to be a tough decision. I’m not sure he would have made the team, honestly. He probably wouldn’t have.

And Jihad’s upside is big. He wasn’t right for that scheme, but he’s going to fit in well here.

Id be really surprised if they only keep 5 WRs

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Id be really surprised if they only keep 5 WRs

I think that it'll be less about the # at each position and more about total number of skill position players they'll carry.

Something like they'll carry 13 or 14 skill position players and take the best of the bunch, without doing something egregious like 8 WRs and 2 RBs.

 

[OmerV]

Id be really surprised if they only keep 5 WRs

Austin is kind of the wild card. I know he is listed as a RB, but I doubt he will be used like a traditional RB at all. More as a receiver out of the backfield, and he will still split out wide pretty often. With Austin as a RB rather than a WR makes it possible they only keep 5 at WR, knowing he can step in if needed, but I still think they will keep 6. They clearly will keep Hurns, Beasley and Gallup, and it's very likely the will keep T-Williams as well. Then I would expect 2 more out of Brown, Thompson and Wilson. Hopefully they can slide Wilson onto the practice squad for a season.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

if we kept switzer...wouldn't he be on the short cut list.....

No

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

No

so assumption is we have Beasley, would have traded for Austin and Have Switzer...choose two.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

so assumption is we have Beasley, would have traded for Austin and Have Switzer...choose two.

Austin and Switzer.

Not sure why people think Switzer wouldn't have made the team. Jerry wasn't looking to trade him but yet folks think they would have cut him. Not a chance

 

[OmerV]

Austin and Switzer.

Not sure why people think Switzer wouldn't have made the team. Jerry wasn't looking to trade him but yet folks think they would have cut him. Not a chance

Not sure why you think Beasley wouldn't have made the team.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Not sure why you think Beasley wouldn't have made the team.

Because he is 30, would give us the most money by cutting, a one trick pony, only lines up in the slot, can't like up outside, doesn't play special teams, isn't a threat in the return game, only caught 36 passes last year. He isn't special and has very little to no trade value

 

[OmerV]

Because he is 30, would give us the most money by cutting, a one trick pony, only lines up in the slot, can't like up outside, doesn't play special teams, isn't a threat in the return game, only caught 36 passes last year. He isn't special and has very little to no trade value

You think Switzer and Austin are anything but slot receivers? In any case, this only makes sense if a person believes what Beasley did last year was a function of his declining skills rather than the result of a disjointed offense. Beasley is only one season removed from an 800+ yard season, and I seriously doubt his skills have deteriorated much.

 

[conner01]

Because he is 30, would give us the most money by cutting, a one trick pony, only lines up in the slot, can't like up outside, doesn't play special teams, isn't a threat in the return game, only caught 36 passes last year. He isn't special and has very little to no trade value

I like Beasley but Switzer could do what he does, is cheaper and under contract
Beasley is a FA after this season
Switzer is a solid return guy
We traded the wrong short white guy

 

[Irvin88_4life]

You think Switzer and Austin are anything but slot receivers? In any case, this only makes sense if a person believes what Beasley did last year was a function of his declining skills rather than the result of a disjointed offense. Beasley is only one season removed from an 800+ yard season, and I seriously doubt his skills have deteriorated much.

It was the only season he posted 800 yards. Every other season was around 300 but did have a year with 500. That's not good at all, damn sure ain't special.

Austin and Switzer both have versatility and can be threats in other aspects besides slot..... And they are younger and cheaper

 

[DasSchnitzel]

He was redundant, why is this still being debated.

This team has 47 different slot receivers and only a couple worthwhile DTs, particularly in base. Oakland had a DT that wasn't well suited to a 3 man front and a need at WR/ST.

If this is confusing to you, it's because you spend too much thought on trades suggested by fans, where Dallas typically exchanges a 2nd round pick and a JAG for a perennial all-pro. This is what a perfectly normal, run-of-the-mill trade looks like in the NFL. Just two teams churning the bottom of their rosters in a mutually beneficial manner.

 

[OmerV]

It was the only season he posted 800 yards. Every other season was around 300 but did have a year with 500. That's not good at all, damn sure ain't special.

Austin and Switzer both have versatility and can be threats in other aspects besides slot..... And they are younger and cheaper

How many 800 yard seasons has Austin posted? Austin has been in the NFL only one year less than Beasley, and he has 910 fewer yards receiving than Beasley. And if you are going by last year as an indicator of what a player has left in the tank, as you did with Beasley, Austin only had 47 (yes 47) receiving yards in 2017. As for age (by the way, Beasley is 29, not 30) Austin is only on year younger than Beasley.

As for Switzer, he does have the age and cost benefit, but are we really sure he has as much or more ability as a receiver? Maybe so, maybe not, but I think it's off base to just assume it.

 

[WTtoolman]

To me, it seemed like Switzer wasn't playing with a full deck.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Posters sometimes think I support Garrett as a coach because I won't buy into all the silly nonsense people make a deal out of, like clapping on the sidelines, or I won't buy into all the nonsense about how he throws everyone under the bus or the supposedly telling things that people imagine they can read between the lines at every press conference. There is no need for me to fabricate a personal issue with the man, or trump up a personality or character flaw in the man. Frankly I think Garrett is a good guy and he works hard at his job. He just hasn't been that good at it, and he hasn't accomplished what he was hired to do, and he has easily had time to get things done. That's it - a bottom line kind of view.

I agree. I just really don't care about the personality part. Its all about winning for me. Just like I don't care that Witten retired. All that did was muck up one week of articles I had no interest in.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Tavon Austin: 12 returns for 53 yards (4.4 average) 0 TD. Oh yeah, 5 fumbles (2 FR).

Ryan Switzer: 29 returns for 256 yards (8.8 average) 1 TD. 1 fumble.

Switzer had nearly 5 times th yards, double th return avg, 1 TD to none...you want to rag on Switzer for 1 fumble. How you like seeing 5 fumbles opposed to 1?

So you are telling me that Austin fumbled 5 times on 12 returns? So he fumbled nearly half the time? That doesn't sound right at all. If it is, then it was a stupid trade.

But I have a feeling his career stats are much better than that. I know he has had TD's on returns.
I hear ya, "Tavon is a much better return guy than Switzer". LOL...if Switzer did nothing according to you please do tell, what did Tavon do?

 

[BigD5]

Ryan Switzer is a dumb football player. You can’t win with dumb football players.

“Hit me over the head with a hammer every time I draft a dumb football player.”

Signed,
Jimmy Johnson
&
Bill Belichick