Why did you guys give up over 100 yards rushing the last two games?

[brokeback]

Your basing your opinion on 3 games out of 12? U really need to open your eyes to the complete body of work...

AFC is not the class of the NFL anymore, so you should probably re-think your position on it's dominance.

I'm not basing my opinion of your defense on 3 games. If I was, I wouldn't have said they were very good, good, or pretty good. I'm looking at similar opponents. Teams tend to pattern themselves and benchmark themselves based on the rest of their division. The AFC West tends to play physical, in your face football. It's certainly not a finesse division. The teams use their offensive lines to wear down opponents and run between the tackles over and over again. The Raiders fit that description the least, but you handled their offense reasonably well (19 points). You gave up 24 points each to Denver and San Diego. I certainly don't see your offense scoring enough to win a shootout.
This game will come down to your D-line/blitzing LBs vs. our O-line. The team that wins that battle will probably win the game barring some special teams fireworks or breakdowns.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

did you take into account that division games are usually tougher than anyother game?

 

[brokeback]

7 of Denver's pts came from an AWFUL Bledsoe INT that was run back for 7 and our kicker missed a chip shot FG to boot or we win that game.

The win against the Chargers was ugly on defense, but keep in mind we were in our FIRST week of a BRAND NEW defensive scheme with plenty of new guys in the lineup (Ware, Henry, James, Canty, etc...).

Congratulations, your offense got scored on and your special teams stink. You'll be playing with that same offense and special teams on Sunday. If you think KC will be less likely to score on D/ST, you've got a big surprise coming your way.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

your D sucks, and Dante hasn't done anything in awhile

and both our Os suck

the X-factor, our very good D

we win

again, take your lumps now and save yourself the time

 

[jspchief]

and both our Os suck

heh. 2nd overall and 7th in scoring. Yeah that sucks.

 

[brokeback]

how was my analysis, "inaccurate"? and how am I, "uninformed"? I have the stats right in front of me

I thought a top-5 D, was an A-level D? and we're 6th in scoring D, isn't that A-level?

that's also a top 10 percentile buddy...which you said we're not

so who can't evaluate talent properly? much less gather, and compute stats?

Do you really want me to elaborate or are your own quotes enough?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

heh. 2nd overall and 7th in scoring. Yeah that sucks.

sorry, got visions of Buffalo in my head

 

[brokeback]

did you take into account that division games are usually tougher than anyother game?

No. No I did not. That's probably because NFL teams have a .500 winning percentage in divisional games every single year. This is identical to their .500 winning percentage in non-divisional games. Math is tricky that way.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Do you really want me to elaborate or are your own quotes enough?

I fail to see your point? I posted the mark of a great D, but go ahead

 

[WoodysGirl]

I'm not basing my opinion of your defense on 3 games. If I was, I wouldn't have said they were very good, good, or pretty good. I'm looking at similar opponents. Teams tend to pattern themselves and benchmark themselves based on the rest of their division. The AFC West tends to play physical, in your face football. It's certainly not a finesse division. The teams use their offensive lines to wear down opponents and run between the tackles over and over again. The Raiders fit that description the least, but you handled their offense reasonably well (19 points). You gave up 24 points each to Denver and San Diego. I certainly don't see your offense scoring enough to win a shootout.
This game will come down to your D-line/blitzing LBs vs. our O-line. The team that wins that battle will probably win the game barring some special teams fireworks or breakdowns.

I'm beginning to see now... There's an AFC West bias going on here... Everything you describe the AFC West as being, I could say the same about the NFC East division. The difference is in the continuity within the organizations from the coaching staff to the systems being played. Oakland is not playing well for that very reason.

Three of the teams within the NFC are all in various stages of rebuilding, so they don't have the same amount of continuity. But their coaches are known for their coaching skills, even tho Gibbs is shaky right now.

As Smith22 noted, the D didn't give up 24 pts to Denver. Bledsoe gift-wrapped a TD for Den with an awful throw in first quarter. So the D gave up 17 pts.

And seriously, I wouldn't compare the D of today with the D against SD. Even missing two defensive starters since that game, the D is still playing far and away above what they did in that game.

I actually agree that the game will be won and lost at the LOS. You generate pressure on Bledsoe and if he doesn't respond well, we're in deep doo-doo. OTOH, if we dont get any pressure up field and contain LJ, then I'd say we're in for a long day.

However, I'm more worried about Bledsoe and our offense than I am about our D. It's too Jekyll and Hyde.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

No. No I did not. That's probably because NFL teams have a .500 winning percentage in divisional games every single year. This is identical to their .500 winning percentage in non-divisional games. Math is tricky that way.

guess divisional games are only tough in the NFC East then

 

[Bob Sacamano]

WG

all the Chiefs have as a pass-rushing threat is Jared Allen, I wouldn't be worried about Bledsoe too much

 

[jspchief]

sorry, got visions of Buffalo in my head

And I have visions of San Francisco. Even good teams stumble on occasion. If you think one bad game determines what we are capable of, I assume you use the same logic on your own team.

Besides, the way Buffalo beat us was through pressure, because we had two back-ups at tackle. Now we have two starters, and Dallas won't come near the pressure Buffalo got.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

heh, yet our D has been confusing opposing offenses for weeks now, yep, we won't get pressure on you guys lmao!

 

[brokeback]

your D sucks, and Dante hasn't done anything in awhile

and both our Os suck

the X-factor, our very good D

we win

again, take your lumps now and save yourself the time

Spellbinding analysis of our offense and special teams. I was under the impression that the Chiefs offense was capping off a year which is included as part of one of the greatest offenses in the history of the NFL as measured over a 4-year period. I was also under the impression that Dante Hall is widely regarded as one of the best, if not the best, kick returner in NFL history.
Thanks for setting me straight.

For those of us in the real world, the Chiefs have a very good offense that has begun to look great as of late. We also have Dante Hall who is a threat to score every time he touches the ball. Our kicker is having an excellent year. I believe he ranks 3rd in the AFC in % and has hit several long kicks. This is especially impressive given the fact that he has played every game on grass. His kickoffs aren't very good, though.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Dante is a threat that hasn't been realized thus far, and our kick-coverage is, and always is, excellent

sorry about the O analysis of you guys, that was a way off, but it was a dig

 

[brokeback]

heh, yet our D has been confusing opposing offenses for weeks now, yep, we won't get pressure on you guys lmao!

By "weeks" are you referring to last week when you lost to New York and the week before that when you lost to Denver?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

New York's O was pathetic against us, 1 TD

we ended Plummers consecutive passes w/o an INT streak

so yeah, that's what I'm referring to

 

[brokeback]

WG

all the Chiefs have as a pass-rushing threat is Jared Allen, I wouldn't be worried about Bledsoe too much

Derrick Johnson is actually a very good pass rusher. He's been used a lot in coverage because we've played some wide open offenses and have been missing Warfield and/or Surtain for much of the season. We don't get a lot of sacks, but that's due to a weak D-line failing to get a push up front. We did a better job of getting a push with Sims back last week.
That said, our defense tends to deflect a lot of passes that result in INTs. I don't know, but I would guess that Bledsoe doesn't really have a big problem with deflected passes because he's so tall.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

DJ isn't a very good pass-rusher, that's never been his forte