why do so many fans have to downplay romo's performance

[cowboys19]

yes I call the Giants game Horrible unless you think throwing two picks, and no tds, and finishing with a QB rating lower than the one he finished the Saints game with a good game. But hey I didn't forget how crappy he played after that great pass at the end of game to Witten...

i disagree. you dont play horrible, and put your team in position to win the game at the end, against a divsion rival on the road

 

[03EBZ06]

I may be in the minority here, but that doesn't mean that I am not right.

It's your opinion, not a fact, so there isn't right or wrong but whatever works for you.

 

[Dale]

look at what he has had to throw too...yeah hes a great qb, regardless of what you want to believe it or not, he had his best season statistically with Terrell which was only like ~500 yards more and ~5 more tds too

I agree.

McNabb's flaws are that he typically has performed his worst in what amounts to the Eagles' final games of the season. That Super Bowl effort was a clunker of supreme proportions.

His accuracy can also give out at times. He'll have two or three games a year where he's constantly throwing at guys' feet.

But if performance in the clutch moments of playoff games is what ultimately makes a guy great, then let's just eliminate Peyton Manning's name from this discussion right this second.

Brady is about the only guy that really measures up in every regard.

 

[2233boys]

This is exactly my point.

I love to laugh at McNabb's flaws as much as anyone (puking away clutch moments), but if he's not "great," then Manning and Brady are about the only great quarterbacks in this league.

All the rest are just in the good range if McNabb is, as well.

I would agree that Manning and Brady are the only great QB's in the league.

McNabb not so much, unless you call constant media nut hugging being great.


I was watching one of his game this year when he threw the ball in the dirt way in front of his rec, and the announcer said it was two bad McNabb had to deal with rec that couldn't catch (or something to that affect). McNabb is a product of the media.

 

[smarta5150]

Unless you are a gold glove winning short stop you cant be a WR if McNabb is QB.

 

[the kid 05]

This is exactly my point.

I love to laugh at McNabb's flaws as much as anyone (puking away clutch moments), but if he's not "great," then Manning and Brady are about the only great quarterbacks in this league.

All the rest are just in the good range if McNabb is, as well.

ok, you say you laugh when McNabb pukes away at key moments does that mean you also laugh at the Manning boy?

 

[2233boys]

look at what he has had to throw too...yeah hes a great qb, regardless of what you want to believe it or not, he had his best season statistically with Terrell which was only like ~500 yards more and ~5 more tds too

OK, you call him great. I see a QB who chunks as many balls into the dirt or over the head of his rec as he does making great throws.

If you want to know what great is look at what Brady does, and he has had less at wr than McNabb...

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

ok, you say you laugh when McNabb pukes away at key moments does that mean you also laugh at the Manning boy?

There is a difference.

One pukes.... the other chokes.

 

[Dale]

ok, you say you laugh when McNabb pukes away at key moments does that mean you also laugh at the Manning boy?

Read my post about, oh, three or so posts above yours.

I say that if performing in the clutch is the definition of greatness, then Peyton Manning must immediately be eliminated from this conversation.

I've been a Tennessee fan since I was young, and grew up loving Manning's play. With that said, even I can see the huge weakness in his game.

 

[2233boys]

i disagree. you dont play horrible, and put your team in position to win the game at the end, against a divsion rival on the road

So one great play makes his whole bad preformance disappear. Ok... I see what I am dealing with.

I am glad he made the play and was as happy as **** when he did it. It was a great pass, but he played like **** for most of that game.

 

[the kid 05]

OK, you call him great. I see a QB who chunks as many balls into the dirt or over the head of his rec as he does making great throws.

If you want to know what great is look at what Brady does, and he has had less at wr than McNabb...

McNabb is great, Brady is Elite

 

[SaintReginald]

If I recall correctly... Brees didnt start playing well until they drafted Rivers... so he has only been playing well 2 out of last 3 years. So he hasnt conquered any mountains either. HE HAS plenty of weapons too.

Anyways....




Not many question if he could lead... it was plain as day to see that there was no following game plan... just try and wing it to catch up. Show me where posters questioned if he could lead after that ONE game??

I have a snickers bar.. I will wait...

Well I'm not really talking about brees, but the fact that your comparing 6 good games to two good years is somewhat strange I also question whether colston, horn, and henderson are as good as TO, Glenn, and Whitten. To me, the cowboys have the best receiver in the game..but i digress.
Romo has proven one thing. He has the ABILITY to perform well in this league. Non-cowboys fans have no reason to overlook the fact that many players have shined over short stretches in the history of the nfl.
btw..its 3 am here so im not searching random boards for posts on tony romo....

 

[2233boys]

It's your opinion, not a fact, so there isn't right or wrong but whatever works for you.

I didn't say it was a fact, just that I am right. Some opinions are right and based on factual information others are based on crap we pull out of our butts to make us feel better about our situation.

 

[Dale]

So one great play makes his whole bad preformance disappear. Ok... I see what I am dealing with.

I am glad he made the play and was as happy as **** when he did it. It was a great pass, but he played like **** for most of that game.

I'd imagine all the "greats" even have a few 58-QB rating games mixed in their seasons here and there.

 

[2233boys]

Unless you are a gold glove winning short stop you cant be a WR if McNabb is QB.

Well said.

 

[Tuna Helper]

The guy is for real. Most "flash in the pan" QBs get exposed within 3 or 4 starts and never recover to even average level. BP has even said that it takes only 2 game tapes for him to figure out opposing QBs.

Romo had a rough first half against the Giants, but bounced back in the 2nd half with some huge plays. He had a rough game against the Saints, but bounced back yet again with a good game against the Falcons.

In addition, he has had his comfort zone taken away the past 2 games, but the encouraging thing is that he seems to have figured it out, and played well against Atlanta. His comfort zone being the areas outside of the tackle box where he likes to roll out to.

I was encouraged by the fact that he played most of the game from the pocket against the Falcons. Teams can't keep him in the pocket and expect him to fail, and they can't let him roll out either. This is encouraging.

There will be more bumps in the road, but the kid has always bounced back from everything thrown at him so far. The last guy I remember that played like this was Tom Brady, and he wasn't asked to do nearly as much in his first year as a starter.

Besides, when was the last time that we've had so much consistency from the QB position in Dallas for such a long stretch? I would venture to say the mid 1990's with Aikman at the helm.

 

[2233boys]

I'd imagine all the "greats" even have a few 58-QB rating games mixed in their seasons here and there.

I am sure they do. He is just starting out though. That is why I still have reservations about him and am not jumping up and down sprinkling him with the anointing oil.

 

[Dale]

I am sure they do. He is just starting out though. That is why I still have reservations about him and am not jumping up and down sprinkling him with the anointing oil.

True.

I guess I just don't really see how his performance could have been better in any regard.

We know every young QB will struggle on occasion. He struggled against New Orleans, but so did everyone. Even Owens seemed completely disinterested in that game.

I think to bounce back from a bad game, as he did against New York, is absolutely a tremendous testament to his play. To play poorly but still compose yourself to make the winning throw, what else more could you really want?

To me, he needed a game like that. It showed us more than had he just played swimmingly throughout. We saw him respond to yet another different situation.

Now, obviously, if he were doing this every week -- playing poorly and having to dig himself out of a hole late in the game -- it'd be a concern. But showing he CAN do that is encouraging. And New York played him as well that game as anyone has this year.

It's always too early to annoint any player who has made 8 starts. With that said, I don't think a player could have a more impressive 8 starts to a career.

 

[cowboys19]

I am sure they do. He is just starting out though. That is why I still have reservations about him and am not jumping up and down sprinkling him with the anointing oil.

Brady had ALOT of bad games his first year starting, hell he had alot of bad games his first 3 years starting.

Same with Peyton Manning.

if you don't believe me ill go look up the stats

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I think to bounce back from a bad game, as he did against New York, is absolutely a tremendous testament to his play. To play poorly but still compose yourself to make the winning throw, what else more could you really want?

Great points.

The latter is even more impressive to me. ALot of QB's can bounce back after a bad game... he bounces back after a bad game DURING the same game