Why I stopped caring about Player Contracts

[Jarntt]

To my knowledge and I Could be wrong here but they haven't even gotten Zeke's savings yet. He was a post June 1st cut.

So they were able to trade for Cooks and Gillmore WITH or WITHOUT Zeke being cut. They could've been making these types of moves but the problem is they didn't value this type of team building until I guess they saw the Eagles make it to a SB.

Correct Zeke was designated post 6/1. you asked about last year, not this year. The carry over helped pay for those guys. Plus when bringing up a prior year specifically and when asking 'if they had Zeke's $13M what would they spend it on' it seemed as you were talking in general so I gave you examples of what they use cap space on meaning if they cut

 

[CouchCoach]

You should care about contracts. Great example is Zeke's. When they pay these guy, they want to feature them. Which keeps more talented and cheaper players like Pollard on the bench. Its not just about money.

Only a casual fan would not care about contracts and who gets paid what.

And knowing all of this helps you how?

And I completely disagree about that fan part because I am a fan of the sports side, not the business side.

 

[Jarntt]

No team has a roster full of all pros and pro bowlers.

There are role players, jags, etc.

What makes their jags better than our jags? You replace one with the other.

And you don't go spending FA money to fill up backup positions. So how are these guys better than ours? How much more will they cost? How much more will they give you? And who do u lose because you spend a lot of money thru FA

It's been proven 100 times over. You fill gaps in the roster. Maybe sign a rental for a last push. But you don't build a team through FA. Doesn't work.

Now you are just changing the discussion. The point was there are impact players that aren't past their prime or JAGs that are signed via free agency. That is what you said that I disagreed with

 

[BoyzBlaster]

Every single year there are a bunch of players that leave as free agents and are expected to start for other teams. The Eagles alone lost five in part because they couldn't afford to re-sign them: Hargraves, CJGJ, Seumalo, Sanders and Dillard. League wide there are many players I would call potential impact players for us that leave their previous team via free agency or trade that could make us much better. I'm not stating we should be singing any or all of them, but the idea that only older, ineffective and past their prime players make it to free agency is off base IMO. This year I think had a little less than usual. It doesn't have to be an Aaron Donald to make your team better and be a difference maker

TJ Edwards was another really good player they lost in FA. I was hoping we'd let Poodle Hunter walk and replace him with Edwards.

 

[Qcard]

People think the reason they don’t spend money is because of a 13 million dollar cap hit from Zeke……

Plus, Owners don't spend money because they have a SELF IMPOSED Cap.

 

[CowboyRoy]

And knowing all of this helps you how?

And I completely disagree about that fan part because I am a fan of the sports side, not the business side.

Knowing all what?

Nothing wrong with being a casual fan. Many of us care about and like to debate the details.

What and which players gets paid directly affects the success of the team so its important to hard core fans.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Just told you. 60-40 or 70-30. Zeke would have been cut long ago and not resigned.

Probably would have started out 50/50 his rookie year. Would have let Zeke hold out in Cabo Pollard rookie year and featured him while Zeke held out. Would have drafted another young back to team with Pollard.

So is it a coincidence that two of our losses came last year when we have Pollard 18+ carries?

 

[Flamma]

Translation, the cap doesn't matter as much as some people would like it to matter. But it does matter. Or else we'd see stacked teams every year like we did in the 80s and 90s.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Now you are just changing the discussion. The point was there are impact players that aren't past their prime or JAGs that are signed via free agency. That is what you said that I disagreed with

Never said there weren't. Who? How many of them are available? How much they cos r? Which goes back to my initial argument. Good ones are resigned and kept by their original teams. Most who hit the market are older, injury history, and want a big contract.

Again, you fill a gap you couldn't otherwise for a short term and a lot of money.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Correct Zeke was designated post 6/1. you asked about last year, not this year. The carry over helped pay for those guys. Plus when bringing up a prior year specifically and when asking 'if they had Zeke's $13M what would they spend it on' it seemed as you were talking in general so I gave you examples of what they use cap space on meaning if they cut

Yeah but they didn't need to release anyone to get Gilmore and Cooks. Restructuring deals allowed that.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Translation, the cap doesn't matter as much as some people would like it to matter. But it does matter. Or else we'd see stacked teams every year like we did in the 80s and 90s.

In theory yes. I can't speak for the OP but for me when I say the cap doesn't matter I mean it in regards to building your team. You can't have everyone make max money but no team is stacked enough to even have that be a worry.

 

[jazzcat22]

I'm sure we wanted to keep Cedric Wilson last year but couldn't because of Dak's contract. We all saw the result.

Right, a few harp on Zeke's contract, when Dak's is much worse.
But we are talking agendas and narratives there.

Zeke did not live up to his contract, and playing injured with a handicap at OC did not help. Dak certainly did not live up to his contract either. We will see if he does with a 30% change in offense.
Hopefully a better OL as well.
I do understand and agree, it was best to move on from Zeke. But if Dak repeats from last year, they should follow up on that as well.

 

[CowboyRoy]

So is it a coincidence that two of our losses came last year when we have Pollard 18+ carries?

Must be.

Are you still confused? Wait, do you still think that Zeke is a better RB than Pollard right now?

 

[Jumbo075]

The biggest impact on rising NFL salaries is not the top limit of the Salary Cap, but the bottom limit. Teams are REQUIRED to spend a certain percentage of income on player salaries. So, as the league revenue goes up, the salaries of average and below average players also goes up. Another impact of the Salary CAP is that it shortens the careers of players. It also guarantees profitability for small market teams. Finally, in case anyone has forgotten how lopsided most Super Bowls were prior to the Salary CAP, it makes the games more competitive - which raises ratings. The actual salaries of individual players is incidental to the reason the Salary CAP is in place.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Right, a few harp on Zeke's contract, when Dak's is much worse.
But we are talking agendas and narratives there.

Zeke did not live up to his contract, and playing injured with a handicap at OC did not help. Dak certainly did not live up to his contract either. We will see if he does with a 30% change in offense.
Hopefully a better OL as well.
I do understand and agree, it was best to move on from Zeke. But if Dak repeats from last year, they should follow up on that as well.

Much different. I shouldnt have to explain this to you.

Dak plays the most important position in football and there was no better QB on the roster. Dak does his job better than Zeke does.

Zeke on the other hand sucks at what he does and plays one of the least important positions in football. Not to mention we had a better RB on the roster to play.

 

[Coogiguy03]

When your team hands out bad contracts like candy just pretend it doesn't matter.

Hey hey well that's the going rate!! "Market value!"

 

[jazzcat22]

Knowing all what?

Nothing wrong with being a casual fan. Many of us care about and like to debate the details.

What and which players gets paid directly affects the success of the team so its important to hard core fans.

There are many hardcore fans that do not give a crap about the pay. So if one doesn't care, they are less of a fan?
Before the salary cap how did you distinguish a hardcore fan vs. a casual fan?

Same before the explosion of the internet, and now social media, to find out any thing one could that was going on. All we had was a local newspaper, or the USA Today.
Hard to get good info if not in the area. At least they had The Dallas Cowboys weekly, which I subscribed to.
So if a fan subscribed to it, they were hardcore but if not they were casual?

 

[Coogiguy03]

Have you finally realized that Dallas' front office isn't based on end results?

And you're right about the Hurts contract - he isn't worth that much money, but at least he reached a super bowl before getting the deal. What was on Dak's resume before he got paid? Regular season stats?

star on his helmet??

 

[Coogiguy03]

That isn't how QB's get paid. The next one always gets more than the last one. Been that way for years. Lamar, Burrow, Herbert will be next.

It sucks, but hey that's the going rate, by next year someone will be making 60 million

 

[Coogiguy03]

Right, a few harp on Zeke's contract, when Dak's is much worse.
But we are talking agendas and narratives there.

Zeke did not live up to his contract, and playing injured with a handicap at OC did not help. Dak certainly did not live up to his contract either. We will see if he does with a 30% change in offense.
Hopefully a better OL as well.
I do understand and agree, it was best to move on from Zeke. But if Dak repeats from last year, they should follow up on that as well.

Is that before or after they resign him???