Why in the heck would we spend a 4th on a player that won't even make the team?

[VA Cowboy]

A poster questioned a pick

Slushy went wild like a young lady at Spring Break

Got off the track

Then he quit

Yes, Slushy blinked
You go home, Slushy. The thing is, i would guess would be in general agreement wit you that Stanback will excell

Then you went off the deep end.
Go home slushy, you blinked first
IT'S NEVER A BAD THING TO QUESTION ANYTHING ANYTIME ANYWHERE -- EVEN A FOURTH-ROUND DRAFT PICK:bang2: HAVEN'T YOU LEARNED THAT? IT'S A FORUM FERGOSHSAKES!!!

:laugh2:

 

[eduncan22]

We drafted two corners and a WR. Dont start again

Maybe 1 of these guys makes the team.

Ball and Stanback are headed to the AFL/CFL.

 

[speedkilz88]

Maybe 1 of these guys makes the team.

Ball and Stanback are headed to the AFL/CFL.

When are you headed to the Galacticon convention?

 

[iceberg]

A poster questioned a pick

Slushy went wild like a young lady at Spring Break

Got off the track

Then he quit

Yes, Slushy blinked
You go home, Slushy. The thing is, i would guess would be in general agreement wit you that Stanback will excell

Then you went off the deep end.
Go home slushy, you blinked first
IT'S NEVER A BAD THING TO QUESTION ANYTHING ANYTIME ANYWHERE -- EVEN A FOURTH-ROUND DRAFT PICK:bang2: HAVEN'T YOU LEARNED THAT? IT'S A FORUM FERGOSHSAKES!!!

and in a forum - how come you can dictate what people can and can't say, but i can't?

wild how people are in such a rush to their own 'freedom of speech' they don't give a damn who's they run over in the process.

go away now.

 

[iceberg]

Maybe 1 of these guys makes the team.

Ball and Stanback are headed to the AFL/CFL.

well considering you said we didn't draft ANY of these positions, i guess you're probably WRONG here also.

 

[Regar the Bold]

well considering you said we didn't draft ANY of these positions, i guess you're probably WRONG here also.

 

[eduncan22]

well considering you said we didn't draft ANY of these positions, i guess you're probably WRONG here also.

You still think Stanback is a WR?

 

[dfense]

Stanback is the odd man out! Still not healthy and deep in rank Stanback better hope some luck is on his side. Owens,Glenn,Crayton,Hurd,then Austin,Rector,urban. The return should be Austin and Thompson. What gives?

What ever happened to Skyler Green? Did he get cut or sent to the practice squad?

 

[Doomsday101]

You still think Stanback is a WR?

Evidently the Cowboys staff and scouting department are not as smart as you but yes they see him as a guy who has the athletic ability and skills to play WR in this league.

 

[eduncan22]

Evidently the Cowboys staff and scouting department are not as smart as you but yes they see him as a guy who has the athletic ability and skills to play WR in this league.

Sure "fooled" the other 31 teams in the NFL.

 

[Vintage]

Sure "fooled" the other 31 teams in the NFL.

I guess we should ***** about taking Spencer. Because 25 teams passes him up.

I guess we should ***** about Marten beaing taken. 32 teams passed him up (including us) twice.

I guess we should ***** about Free being taken. 32 teams passes him up (including us) three times.

There is a reason 31 other teams didn't take him or were "fooled." You only get to be drafted by one team.

But don't let a simple thing like logic get in your way (not that you would).

 

[Mash]

2006

1 18(18) Bobby Carpenter OLB Ohio State (curently a backup)
2 21(53) Anthony Fasano TE Notre Dame ( solid 2nd TE)
3 28(92) Jason Hatcher DE Grambling State ( solid Backup will push Spears)
4 28(125) Skyler Green WR Louisiana State (waste)
5 5(138) Pat Watkins S Florida State ( potential to be a starter)
6 13(182) Montavious Stanley DT Louisville ( waste)
7 3(211) Paul McQuistan T Weber State (solid)
7 16(224) E.J. Whitley (?)

2005
Rnd Name College Note
1 Demarcus Ware Troy State (superstar)
1 Marcus Spears Louisiana State (Bill wanted him..disappointment)
2 Kevin Burnett Tennessee ( backup)
4 Marion Barber Minnesota (solid)
4 Chris Canty Virginia (solid)
6 Justin Beriault Ball State (injury history...done)
6 Rob Petitti Pittsburgh ( who?)
7 Jay Ratliff Auburn ( solid)

2004
Rnd Name College Note
2 Julius Jones Notre Dame (solid ...isnt a diff maker)
2 Jacob Rogers USC ( waste)
3 Stephen Peterman Louisiana State (waste)
4 Bruce Thornton Georgia (waste)
5 Sean Ryan Boston College (waste)
7 Nathan Jones Rutgers (?)
7 Patrick Crayton NW Oklahoma State (solid)
7 Jacques Reeves Purdue (solid)

2003
Rnd Name College Note
1 Terence Newman Kansas State ( pro bowler)
2 Al Johnson Wisconsin ( waste)
3 Jason Witten Tennessee (pro bowler)
4 Bradie James Louisiana State ( solid )
6 B.J. Tucker Wisconsin (waste)
6 Zuriel Smith Hampton (waste)
7 Justin Bates Colorado (waste)


even the almighty God Bill Parcells makes mistakes at draft time...he did hit on a bunch of 2nd day picks....but missed on some of 1st day picks....Funny how Jerry and company get critized about drafting Stanback in the 4th round (Irelands pick).....yet Bill gets a pass on wasting picks on ...Peterman...Rodgers...Thorton..Green... somehow Jerry gets blamed.....imagine if Bill had it his way and drafted Merriman (steroids) or Spears like he wanted instead of Ware? Carpenter will never live up to his 1st round draft status...Spears is in a make or break yr...so is Julius Jones...and the same could be said about Burnett

Will Bill be critized as much as Jerry if say 2 of the 3 dont pan out? Imagine....will there be threads and threads like how Jerry reached and busted on drafting Carter (who btw actually contributed a little and was a starter) ?

Will Bill get the same Love?

sorry to get off topic.....but the draft is a crapshoot.....IMHO...Stanback was a risky pick but he could become a difference maker....aka Canty...Hatcher..etc.....all 2nd day picks are gambles...

 

[Doomsday101]

Sure "fooled" the other 31 teams in the NFL.

Dallas liked him and brought him in you can either deal with it or not, that is your choice as far as what they see in Stanback I guess we will just have to wait and see. I'm sure if Ireland is right you will still continue moaning about Stanback

 

[iceberg]

You still think Stanback is a WR?

the legend of your ignorance grows with your every post.

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/421459
http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/421459
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=8357
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player?statsId=8357
http://www.dallascowboys.com/team_roster.cfm

i'm not sure what yoiu call a quacking duck in your world, but in reality where the rest of us choose to hang out (most of the time) it's pretty apparant stanback is a WR.

someone needs to go tell romo he's really a LB, julius is really a SS and brainpaint is really a cheerleader.

 

[Vintage]

2006

1 18(18) Bobby Carpenter OLB Ohio State (curently a backup)
2 21(53) Anthony Fasano TE Notre Dame ( solid 2nd TE)
3 28(92) Jason Hatcher DE Grambling State ( solid Backup will push Spears)
4 28(125) Skyler Green WR Louisiana State (waste)
5 5(138) Pat Watkins S Florida State ( potential to be a starter)
6 13(182) Montavious Stanley DT Louisville ( waste)
7 3(211) Paul McQuistan T Weber State (solid)
7 16(224) E.J. Whitley (?)

This draft is too early to tell. But Fasano and Carpenter have had good camps. And I suspect both will be a part of a fixture in the offense/defense this year and for years to come. Hatcher, we shall see. He's certainly flashed potential. The first day isn't spectacular, but it could be very solid. Green was a miss. Watkins could be a solid backup for a long time, which in round 5, isn't bad. Stanley is on the team now. Maybe he develops into a backup; maybe not. McQuistan is on the team and figures to be in the LT mix in the near future (possibly also at RT/LG). I'd say overall, it should be a pretty solid draft. Whitley was nothing; but he was a 7th round pick.

2005
Rnd Name College Note
1 Demarcus Ware Troy State (superstar)
1 Marcus Spears Louisiana State (Bill wanted him..disappointment)
2 Kevin Burnett Tennessee ( backup)
4 Marion Barber Minnesota (solid)
4 Chris Canty Virginia (solid)
6 Justin Beriault Ball State (injury history...done)
6 Rob Petitti Pittsburgh ( who?)
7 Jay Ratliff Auburn ( solid)

Ware certainly panned out. Spears is in a make or break mode. So far, he has been a mediocre starter. Yeah, 1st round picks should be better. No denying that. But plenty of 1st round picks don't turn out mediocre as well. I am not happy with Spears play as of date and he has time to turn it around, but as of now, he is a starter. Burnett is a backup. I don't know if he ever becomes a starter, but he has the athleticism and tools that Phillips likes in his LBers, so maybe this is his chance. Poor value as of now, yeah. But he is contributing to the team. Barber has been a great pick and a great value. Canty is a starter and is coming off a good training camp. Beriault suffered a career ending injury. Couldn't have forseen that. While it gets counted as a wasted pick, I don't blame Parcells for it. **** happens. Petitti ended up sucking and got cut. But before he did, he did start 16 games for us, for better or for worse. Not many 6th rounders do that. So we got some value of him. Ratliff, well, has been a great surprise. Overall, one of our better drafts.

2004
Rnd Name College Note
2 Julius Jones Notre Dame (solid ...isnt a diff maker)
2 Jacob Rogers USC ( waste)
3 Stephen Peterman Louisiana State (waste)
4 Bruce Thornton Georgia (waste)
5 Sean Ryan Boston College (waste)
7 Nathan Jones Rutgers (?)
7 Patrick Crayton NW Oklahoma State (solid)
7 Jacques Reeves Purdue (solid)

Our worse draft under the Parcells tenure. He got too cute IMO. Jones has been a solid (I guess) starter. Rogers was a complete miss. Peterman was a waste for us, but is starting in Detroit. While he wont contribute for us, he may end up being solid. Thornton was nothing. Ryan latched on in NYJ(as a backup). Jones and Reeves have been special teamers and backups and good value for where they were selected. Crayton is the best value in this draft.

2003
Rnd Name College Note
1 Terence Newman Kansas State ( pro bowler)
2 Al Johnson Wisconsin ( waste)
3 Jason Witten Tennessee (pro bowler)
4 Bradie James Louisiana State ( solid )
6 B.J. Tucker Wisconsin (waste)
6 Zuriel Smith Hampton (waste)
7 Justin Bates Colorado (waste)

Newman was a good pick. Johnson wasn't a true waste. He did start for us and could have very well ended up starting here this year if Gurode didn't turn around his career. What he was, was a solid pick (of need) at the time because Gurode was struggling. When Gurode finally had the lights clicked on, Johnson became expendable. We didn't know if the lights would ever go on, hence the Johnson pick. Yeah, he will be a benefit to some other team, but the pick was needed at the time. Witten obviously was a gift. Bradie James, despite his faults, is a 4th rounder who is starting for us. Overall, rounds 1-4 were pretty solid for us. Yeah, we missed on day 2 with picks in the rounds 6/7. But that happens more often than not.

 

[theebs]

2006

1 18(18) Bobby Carpenter OLB Ohio State (curently a backup)
2 21(53) Anthony Fasano TE Notre Dame ( solid 2nd TE)
3 28(92) Jason Hatcher DE Grambling State ( solid Backup will push Spears)
4 28(125) Skyler Green WR Louisiana State (waste)
5 5(138) Pat Watkins S Florida State ( potential to be a starter)
6 13(182) Montavious Stanley DT Louisville ( waste)
7 3(211) Paul McQuistan T Weber State (solid)
7 16(224) E.J. Whitley (?)

2005
Rnd Name College Note
1 Demarcus Ware Troy State (superstar)
1 Marcus Spears Louisiana State (Bill wanted him..disappointment)
2 Kevin Burnett Tennessee ( backup)
4 Marion Barber Minnesota (solid)
4 Chris Canty Virginia (solid)
6 Justin Beriault Ball State (injury history...done)
6 Rob Petitti Pittsburgh ( who?)
7 Jay Ratliff Auburn ( solid)

2004
Rnd Name College Note
2 Julius Jones Notre Dame (solid ...isnt a diff maker)
2 Jacob Rogers USC ( waste)
3 Stephen Peterman Louisiana State (waste)
4 Bruce Thornton Georgia (waste)
5 Sean Ryan Boston College (waste)
7 Nathan Jones Rutgers (?)
7 Patrick Crayton NW Oklahoma State (solid)
7 Jacques Reeves Purdue (solid)

2003
Rnd Name College Note
1 Terence Newman Kansas State ( pro bowler)
2 Al Johnson Wisconsin ( waste)
3 Jason Witten Tennessee (pro bowler)
4 Bradie James Louisiana State ( solid )
6 B.J. Tucker Wisconsin (waste)
6 Zuriel Smith Hampton (waste)
7 Justin Bates Colorado (waste)


even the almighty God Bill Parcells makes mistakes at draft time...he did hit on a bunch of 2nd day picks....but missed on some of 1st day picks....Funny how Jerry and company get critized about drafting Stanback in the 4th round (Irelands pick).....yet Bill gets a pass on wasting picks on ...Peterman...Rodgers...Thorton..Green.......somehow... its Jerry gets blamed.....imagine if Bill had it his way and drafted Merriman (steroids) or Spears like he wanted instead of Ware? Carpenter will never live up to his 1st round draft status...Spears is in a make or break yr...so is Julius Jones...and the same could be said about Burnett

Will Bill be critized as much as Jerry if say 2 of the 3 dont pan out? Imagine....will there be threads and threads like how Jerry reached and busted on drafting Carter (who btw actually contributed a little and was a starter) ?

Will Bill get the same Love?

sorry to get off topic.....but the draft is a crapshoot.....IMHO...Stanback was a risky pick but he could become a difference maker....aka Canty...Hatcher..etc.....all 2nd day picks are gambles...

You are missing some things. One of the first things that jumps out at me is this, You list petitti as a who? and mcquistan as solid. Rob P started 16 games at right tackle, mcquistan has never seen the field. No matter how much all of us like mcquistan, and I do big time I think that is a silly statement. How is Al johnson a waste. He played here for three years and was very useful on special teams also.

Secondly, you are giving no credit for canty, barber, ratliff, crayton, reeves.

many other things are strange with your post, newman isnt a probowler and it is too early to call stanley a waste.

Howbout all the undrafted players parcells brought in? Howbout the guys he pulled off other practice squads? Scott Shanle, Ryan Fowler, Brett Pierce, Tyson Thompson, Tony Romo, lousaka polite, Oliver Hoyte, Miles austin, Sam hurd, junior glymph, lp ladacouer, Matt Mcbriar.

Then he turned around and got a pick for shanle and also traded sean ryan so at least we got something in return this year for those guys.

Parcells did an outstanding job of making undrafted guys players who contribute and he did an outstanding job of finding guys to help this team from other practice squads.

A few other things. For instance, You are calling fasano a backup, we dont know that yet, he may start all the time and contribute a ton to this team in the coming years, and oh by the way for the all complaining about the pick of fasano I never hear anyone complain about how (parcells, if your going to blame him for rogers and peterman then you have to credit him for the good too) anyway how we traded down in the 2nd round a few slots with the jets and then selected fasano, and what did we get with that sly trade...the jets 6th and 7th and we used the seventh on who? Pat Mcquistan. I believe if I remember correctly the 6th got passed around a little and then back to the jets from us for their 5th which we used on Pat watkins.

So for trading down a few spots and getting Anthony Fasano, we used the trade and then another to get Pat watkins and Pat Mcquistan. I dont think that is bad at all.

for what its worth I like the stanback pick. I just hope they dont rush him. I dont think we need him at the start of the season if it is worth risking the whole season. If he can return punts and run some reverses for us in the second half of the season, I am more than happy to wait for him to get healthy.

 

[TheOneROWilliE]

or maybe we will see a new trick play

 

[JPM]

You are missing some things. One of the first things that jumps out at me is this, You list petitti as a who? and mcquistan as solid. Rob P started 16 games at right tackle, mcquistan has never seen the field. No matter how much all of us like mcquistan, and I do big time I think that is a silly statement. How is Al johnson a waste. He played here for three years and was very useful on special teams also.

Secondly, you are giving no credit for canty, barber, ratliff, crayton, reeves.

many other things are strange with your post, newman isnt a probowler and it is too early to call stanley a waste.

Howbout all the undrafted players parcells brought in? Howbout the guys he pulled off other practice squads? Scott Shanle, Ryan Fowler, Brett Pierce, Tyson Thompson, Tony Romo, lousaka polite, Oliver Hoyte, Miles austin, Sam hurd, junior glymph, lp ladacouer, Matt Mcbriar.

Then he turned around and got a pick for shanle and also traded sean ryan so at least we got something in return this year for those guys.

Parcells did an outstanding job of making undrafted guys players who contribute and he did an outstanding job of finding guys to help this team from other practice squads.

A few other things. For instance, You are calling fasano a backup, we dont know that yet, he may start all the time and contribute a ton to this team in the coming years, and oh by the way for the all complaining about the pick of fasano I never hear anyone complain about how (parcells, if your going to blame him for rogers and peterman then you have to credit him for the good too) anyway how we traded down in the 2nd round a few slots with the jets and then selected fasano, and what did we get with that sly trade...the jets 6th and 7th and we used the seventh on who? Pat Mcquistan. I believe if I remember correctly the 6th got passed around a little and then back to the jets from us for their 5th which we used on Pat watkins.

So for trading down a few spots and getting Anthony Fasano, we used the trade and then another to get Pat watkins and Pat Mcquistan. I dont think that is bad at all.

for what its worth I like the stanback pick. I just hope they dont rush him. I dont think we need him at the start of the season if it is worth risking the whole season. If he can return punts and run some reverses for us in the second half of the season, I am more than happy to wait for him to get healthy.

I see facts in your post. You should edit/delete them immediately and replace them with Stanback was a waste, he isn't a WR and stuff like that.

 

[theebs]

I see facts in your post. You should edit/delete them immediately and replace them with Stanback was a waste, he isn't a WR and stuff like that.

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"It aint easy being white"

 

[JPM]

All I have to say to you is..

"It aint easy being white"

"it ain't easy being brown."

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