Why Jerry is trying to sign Dak now

[CowboyRoy]

it seems the front office knows Dak will be a hot commodity given his rapid development.

Since the Amari cooper trade Dak has a higher passer rating in his last 8 games than Drew Brees. His stats Projected over a 16 game season would have been 28 TDs 6INTs 110 passer rating

They know if they don’t sign him this offseason, far too many teams will back up the brinks truck for a 26 year old with a career passer rating higher than Tom Brady.

Not to mention another offseason of growth, rapport with his pass catchers, plenty of cap space to fill in holes, and an healthy and improved Oline. This team is poised for a big run next year and Dak to be surrounded by a supporting cast similar to 2016. He should have an incredible year.

 

[Sydla]

the monicker "dak continues to bump along as a mid-level qb" is your assessment of the man, not mine. and if the level of his play increases, every other team will take notice. in which case his agent will just raise the bar. at some point tell him to just wait until free agency. then we'll have to franchise tag him at a top five salary, fully guaranteed. and if we franchise him a second time, he gets a 20% raise, again fully guaranteed.

It's not exactly some sort of weird opinion. Stats would indicate he's closer to mid-level than elite. People, unbiased people outside of Dallas, have a wide range of opinions on Dak. So acting like it's completely illogical to suggest he could end up being just a decent, not great QB is bizarre.

And yes, I understand how the tag works. It's still the most prudent move IMO if it gets to that point. I'd much rather have to pay him like $27-29MM fully guaranteed in 2020 than be left holding the bag with $50MM+ in guarantees and Dak is performing like a mediocre to decent QB.

I am not sure why some of you are so scared to let him back up this season with another good one in 2019?

 

[LovinItAll]

Only with ZEKE, DAL OL, Cooper and Beasley. How would DAK perform in GB or any place other without the above. Not as well. DAK deserves 20/32 QB rankings, not 1/32 QB rankings until its earned

It's as if people don't understand that a team creates a plan years in advance, then they put the pieces in place to execute that plan. Dallas isn't GB, they don't have the same plan as GB, and they aren't building a team in GB's image. Btw, GB is watching the playoffs from home, so.....

The powers that be set out to create a run first offense. If you don't like that, join another team's fan club. What Dallas won't do is allocate 20%+ of their salary cap to two players. It doesn't work and isn't a winning formula, but if you want Rodgers or Mahommes, that's exactly what will happen unless the QB gives the team a discount, something I would never do as a player (but would try to get as an owner). Dak is the guy to lead this team based on their long term planning, so they want him signed quickly. They'll get that done if they can get him for $25m or less.

 

[HanD]

Dak is a hard QB to judge.

He's looked very good. He's looked very bad.

Definite pluses for running and durability.
Definite problems with anticipation, seeing the field, and accuracy.

Has an elite RB to help him out. Has a nightmare of an OC holding him back.

It's hard to get over the flat out misses of WRs running clear to the endzone.

One thing is probably true - Jerry, Mr. Rose Colored Glasses, will see the positives more clearly and compellingly than the negatives, and want to sign him.

Pocket awareness is a big issue to me .doesn't know where to slide and can't feel pressure or recognize it wuick enough. Maybe he has Romo syndrome to never give up on the play

 

[cern]

It's not exactly some sort of weird opinion. Stats would indicate he's closer to mid-level than elite. People, unbiased people outside of Dallas, have a wide range of opinions on Dak. So acting like it's completely illogical to suggest he could end up being just a decent, not great QB is bizarre.

And yes, I understand how the tag works. It's still the most prudent move IMO if it gets to that point. I'd much rather have to pay him like $27-29MM fully guaranteed in 2020 than be left holding the bag with $50MM+ in guarantees and Dak is performing like a mediocre to decent QB.

I am not sure why some of you are so scared to let him back up this season with another good one in 2019?

i'm not scared in the least. I just stated my reasons why the move makes sense from a financial perspective. the skins played tag with cousins and lost. the steelers played tag with leveon bell and lost. raiders got cute and lost kalil mack. you'll never roll a seven if you don't roll the dice.

 

[Sydla]

It's as if people don't understand that a team creates a plan years in advance, then they put the pieces in place to execute that plan. Dallas isn't GB, they don't have the same plan as GB, and they aren't building a team in GB's image. Btw, GB is watching the playoffs from home, so.....

The powers that be set out to create a run first offense. If you don't like that, join another team's fan club. What Dallas won't do is allocate 20%+ of their salary cap to two players. It doesn't work and isn't a winning formula, but if you want Rodgers or Mahommes, that's exactly what will happen unless the QB gives the team a discount, something I would never do as a player (but would try to get as an owner). Dak is the guy to lead this team based on their long term planning, so they want him signed quickly. They'll get that done if they can get him for $25m or less.

Well in fairness, this team hasn't exactly been very good at executing a plan. They consistently change their "plan" based on whims and emotion and overreaction. A few years ago they let Murray walk saying they didn't need to invest a lot in the RB position to have a good running game. Then the 2015 season happened and they used a Top 5 pick on a RB. They cut Dez this past offseason claiming that their analysis showed a WR by committee approach would work just fine and then 8 weeks into the season, they ripped that plan to shreds and traded a 1st round pick for a WR.

And by the way, based on current market rates, Dak and Elliott very well could equal about 20% of our cap. Gurley carries a cap number of $17MM next year and then an average of $13-14MM over the next two years of his contract. Elliott will likely get that, if not more. Dak carrying a $25MM cap hit would put their combined hit in the $40MM range, which would be approximately 20% of the cap.

 

[cern]

Pocket awareness is a big issue to me .doesn't know where to slide and can't feel pressure or recognize it wuick enough. Maybe he has Romo syndrome to never give up on the play

easily corrected as in final game against the giants. let him roll out more. he clearly throws best when moving around. the o-line is not currently good enough to provide him a nice pocket.

 

[Sydla]

i'm not scared in the least. I just stated my reasons why the move makes sense from a financial perspective. the skins played tag with cousins and lost. the steelers played tag with leveon bell and lost. raiders got cute and lost kalil mack. you'll never roll a seven if you don't roll the dice.

The Skins and Cousins' situation is entirely different than what we have here. There were issues between the front office and Cousins and some issues in the locker room with him on top of them wanting him to prove himself. To my knowledge, there are no such issues here in Dallas.

The Raiders didn't "lose" Mack. The simply didn't want to pay him long term so they tagged him and then when it was clear he wouldn't accept what they wanted to pay him, they traded him.

These are apples to oranges comparisons.

Plus there are examples of people who were tagged that still eventually signed long term with that team. Using your logic, there's no way Lawrence would sign here after being tagged.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

No matter what he does, you're opinion won't change...

Ya man he took apart a broken down Giants defense after 16 weeks of ineptness and a zillion dink and dunk passes now he's the next coming of Troy and Rodger the dodger ....sorry mate need to see more if that ok with you Dak-crushes ....thks

 

[Runwildboys]

It's not exactly some sort of weird opinion. Stats would indicate he's closer to mid-level than elite. People, unbiased people outside of Dallas, have a wide range of opinions on Dak. So acting like it's completely illogical to suggest he could end up being just a decent, not great QB is bizarre.

And yes, I understand how the tag works. It's still the most prudent move IMO if it gets to that point. I'd much rather have to pay him like $27-29MM fully guaranteed in 2020 than be left holding the bag with $50MM+ in guarantees and Dak is performing like a mediocre to decent QB.

I am not sure why some of you are so scared to let him back up this season with another good one in 2019?

Some people are just completely convinced he walks on water, and if we don't lock him in now, we'll be paying him $50 mil/year.

 

[Pass2Run]

Ya man he took apart a broken down Giants defense after 16 weeks of ineptness and a zillion dink and dunk passes now he's the next coming of Troy and Rodger the dodger ....sorry mate need to see more if that ok with you Dak-crushes ....thks

What I'm saying is that no matter what he does, your schtick, your gimmick, won't change.

I'm right and you know it.

 

[Brax]

it seems the front office knows Dak will be a hot commodity given his rapid development.

Since the Amari cooper trade Dak has a higher passer rating in his last 8 games than Drew Brees. His stats Projected over a 16 game season would have been 28 TDs 6INTs 110 passer rating

They know if they don’t sign him this offseason, far too many teams will back up the brinks truck for a 26 year old with a career passer rating higher than Tom Brady.

Dak is under contract for 1 more year and can be franchised for 2 additional years, why would the FO invest in Dak at this point without seeing if he can elevate his game to above average when they can see if he can develop into a top 10 QB over the next 2 to 3 years. At the least let him play next year under his rookie contract then go from there if great improvement is shown.

 

[Runwildboys]

easily corrected as in final game against the giants. let him roll out more. he clearly throws best when moving around. the o-line is not currently good enough to provide him a nice pocket.

The problem is that if you have him roll out too often, defenses will come after him, with blockers getting in the way. I agree, he needs to roll out more, but it's not a cure, just a bandage.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

What I'm saying is that no matter what he does, your schtick, your gimmick, won't change.

I'm right and you know it.

You know NOTHING about me....and Mr. Cool here's a statement from the Pappy ...if and when (If Ever) Dak starts playing like a franchise QB I'll will be a pleasure to eat all the crow there is .....but got a feeling I'll be ordering Chinese or Pizza before Dak-Crow is served....dude has very little talent for the job he possess ...sorry but it is what it is....I'm wasting my time here with you Dak-Zoids as no matter how bad this guy plays you guys are paid Social media employees and promote him to the tilt or simply have other agendas that do not involve the game of football ....laters...

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Matthew Stafford got a contract before the 2017 season that pays him an average $27 million a year. At that time he had a 51-58, a playoff record of 0-3 and a rating in the 3 years prior to that of 92.0.

Dak in his last (only of course) 3 years is 32-16, playoff record 0-1 and a qbr of 96.0. Dak is worth, market-wise, at least what Stafford got, and that was two years ago.

 

[DCreppinBoysfan]

I agree. 25 million a year too low? He’s got to make at least as much as Cousins right?

Cousins wasn’t expensive but his contract was fully guaranteed and Vikings are regretting every second of it as of this moment. But it’s only three years

 

[Rayman70]

Stafford problem is he is undisciplined. He depends on his arm too much and his position coaches weren't very good.. I think Dak fits what we do better. This game will be won Saturday by taking care of the ball and winning the field position battle. (short field).

 

[sunalsorises]

Dak is under contract for 1 more year and can be franchised for 2 additional years, why would the FO invest in Dak at this point without seeing if he can elevate his game to above average when they can see if he can develop into a top 10 QB over the next 2 to 3 years. At the least let him play next year under his rookie contract then go from there if great improvement is shown.

I think, and anyone can correct me if I'm wrong, if they franchise him then the cap hit is all absorbed that season. Dak would be a huge cap hit for each of the seasons he is franchised. If he is extended now then the guaranteed money can at least be mitigated over a few season making his per season cap hit less.

 

[bsbellomy]

Funny how a good game against a bunch of guys nobody has ever heard of changes the opinion of this guy. A week ago we were coming off offensive outputs of 13, 0, and 13 with a 6 quarter scoreless streak in there. You could mention Dak's contract and hear nothing but crickets.

 

[JReed1000]

Sure, in theory.

But let's say you sign him early to a fairly sizable offer that carries large guaranteed money and Dak just continues to bump along as a mid-level QB. Then you have hamstrung yourself to a mediocre QB making big time money.

People are ignoring the reality that there is a downside here. Dak very well may end up being a true, elite, franchise QB. And maybe signing him now will end up being a real steal. But IMO, I think I'd let him play 2019 under his existing deal, make him put two good seasons back to back and then sign him long term or franchise tag him.

He's really already put 3 winning seasons together...You're playing with fire. The man wins and you can play that game because growing up he was a cowboys fan...The only year he hasn't made the playoffs his All Pro RB was suspended. He's making 800k....you pay now and it saves you in the end.