Why not tank in 24

We’ve been tanking for 28 years. Lots here just don’t see it.
 
Davidlee1973 said:
Why not cut dak?
Why not start lance?
Why not trade Ceedee for a first and a second?
Why not trade Micah for a first and third in 25 and first in 26?
What could we do with all those picks and all that freed up cap space.
None of these guys have proved they can win in playoffs, so why continue to pay them?
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You arent getting a 1 and a 2 for Lamb especially this late. You might get a 1 but certainly not a 1 and a 2. I am not sure why you would trade Micah for 2 1s when the return is almost certainly less than what you traded but sure lets play. (Customary reminder that wins are a team stat not an individual one).

You have now done your best to tank but with this roster you are still a 6-7 win team (remember they still play NYG 2x Wash 2x and the entire NFC South before even talking about anything else). So congratulations you now are drafting about 11 which means you will need to package the picks you just got to get into the top 3 to get a QB who has about a 30-40% chance of being Dak. However even if he is you do not have any WRs to throw to, nor a RB to hand him off to, and Martin is probably retiring so thats a giant hole so the new offensive line will be young and his replacement a mid rounder because again you traded your picks to get into the top 5. Oh and the defense is now good but not great.

Congratulations after what you have done you are now a 6-7 win team going forward hoping to find a difference making WR like Lamb in the draft, and a difference making defender like Parsons in the draft, and hoping whatever QB you traded for is a top 10 QB like Dak. So basically you made a bunch of trades to be worse for the next few years with the best hope being you can eventually get back to where you are now.
 
TheMightyVanHalen said:
:facepalm: Because LOSERS tank.

For the slow ones in the back. This might be Zach Martin's last year so you want him and the rest of the veterans on the team to tank so we can get a better draft pick? 75 percent of our fanbase is braindead.

Cowboys have the worst fanbase in all of sports - Stephen A. Smith
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“Because losers tank”…what have we been for the last 28 years?
 
There is rebuilding and there is tanking.

Rebuilding is where you are creating an almost whole new team with players that you expect will peak in a future season.

Your team is still trying to win games as best they can, but you realize they are undermanned for the sake of acquiring future talent. You might trade a valuable veteran that would have helped you win more this season. However, one or two more victories would serve no real purpose for the current season.

Such an example would be the Cowboys, 1989.

Tanking is the deliberate attempt to lose games in order to increase the odds of acquiring better talent in the future through a more favorable draft position.

The problem with this is that willing management and coaching for that franchise does not value winning enough to the degree that they will most likely fail to build a better team. Their competitive spirit has been compromised and that will probably reflect in the type of players they draft.

Another problem with this is that no NFL player is going to tolerate such an attempt without exposing it. Their career, their persona, their self-worth is based on the uncompromising goal of showing the world they are the best at what they do. An NFL player cannot reach their level of success without the work, commitment, and sacrifice required. As such, they are not going to flush it all away on the possibility that they might still be one of the players in that team's future.

With 53 players on a team. it would be difficult for such a conspiracy to succeed without direct participation by the majority of starters at key positions.

To put it more bluntly, tanking does not exist in the NFL and rebuilding is visible for all to see. Rebuilding does not reduce the team's desire to win and sometimes they do. An example of this would be the Cowboys, 1975.
 
plasticman said:
There is rebuilding and there is tanking.

Rebuilding is where you are creating an almost whole new team with players that you expect will peak in a future season.

Your team is still trying to win games as best they can, but you realize they are undermanned for the sake of acquiring future talent. You might trade a valuable veteran that would have helped you win more this season. However, one or two more victories would serve no real purpose for the current season.

Such an example would be the Cowboys, 1989.

Tanking is the deliberate attempt to lose games in order to increase the odds of acquiring better talent in the future through a more favorable draft position.

The problem with this is that willing management and coaching for that franchise does not value winning enough to the degree that they will most likely fail to build a better team. Their competitive spirit has been compromised and that will probably reflect in the type of players they draft.

Another problem with this is that no NFL player is going to tolerate such an attempt without exposing it. Their career, their persona, their self-worth is based on the uncompromising goal of showing the world they are the best at what they do. An NFL player cannot reach their level of success without the work, commitment, and sacrifice required. As such, they are not going to flush it all away on the possibility that they might still be one of the players in that team's future.

With 53 players on a team. it would be difficult for such a conspiracy to succeed without direct participation by the majority of starters at key positions.

To put it more bluntly, tanking does not exist in the NFL and rebuilding is visible for all to see. Rebuilding does not reduce the team's desire to win and sometimes they do. An example of this would be the Cowboys, 1975.
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Good points, you typically dont see tanking in the NFL like you do in the NBA..............it is so blatant in the NBA and the league just looks the other direction.

Take the Spurs, they literally traded away anybody that had a more than a high school level of knowledge about the game of basketball so they would lose enough games to be at the top of the lottery just as Victor Wembyama was entering the draft after playing in Europe for the team Tony Parker happens to own..............Biggest and most blatant tank job ever and the NBA just looked the other way and pretended it was all just a big coincidence.
 
Beast_from_East said:
Good points, you typically dont see tanking in the NFL like you do in the NBA..............it is so blatant in the NBA and the league just looks the other direction.

Take the Spurs, they literally traded away anybody that had a more than a high school level of knowledge about the game of basketball so they would lose enough games to be at the top of the lottery just as Victor Wembyama was entering the draft after playing in Europe for the team Tony Parker happens to own..............Biggest and most blatant tank job ever and the NBA just looked the other way and pretended it was all just a big coincidence.
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It was a beautiful thing.
 
Mediocrity is alive and well in Dallas Land. Fear not fans of the just barely good enough, another season of wishful thinking is ahead of you.
 
Personally I think draft order should be determined by random draw. this would render tanking useless for draft position
 
Davidlee1973 said:
Why not cut dak?
Why not start lance?
Why not trade Ceedee for a first and a second?
Why not trade Micah for a first and third in 25 and first in 26?
What could we do with all those picks and all that freed up cap space.
None of these guys have proved they can win in playoffs, so why continue to pay them?
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Last year was the year to tank for Caleb Williams.
 
Davidlee1973 said:
Why not cut dak?
Why not start lance?
Why not trade Ceedee for a first and a second?
Why not trade Micah for a first and third in 25 and first in 26?
What could we do with all those picks and all that freed up cap space.
None of these guys have proved they can win in playoffs, so why continue to pay them?
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Why not just forfeit every game.
 
I'd have no issue with trading Dak, Lamb & Parsons for a wealth of draft picks. In the interest of starting over, from a current scenario that's hopeless...unsustainable...whatever label you want to put on it. Jerry Jones was at the bottom of the heap in 1989, a season where Troy Aikman went 1-15. Demolition & building from there went forth in short order. It's that time again in Dallas.
 
Davidlee1973 said:
Why not cut dak?
Why not start lance?
Why not trade Ceedee for a first and a second?
Why not trade Micah for a first and third in 25 and first in 26?
What could we do with all those picks and all that freed up cap space.
None of these guys have proved they can win in playoffs, so why continue to pay them?
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What could we do with all those pics quite possibly we could rebuild the team with some players that found winning a super bowl important to them.

How about maybe we could use a first round pick on a quarterback wouldn't that be a novel change .

Maybe we could build a team that would stop the run and be able to run the ball in the postseason making us able to contend rather than just pretend.

While we're at it could we hire a coach after we compile these draft picks that could prepare the team for a playoff game.
 
KingCorcoran said:
BS. The point of the demand for the no trade / no tag language is so he could decide where he continues his career. He’ll get the pay he wants and play where he wants. Right now only a very few teams can consider acquiring him. Next March more teams can consider it. More suitors (bidders), more money. That’s 30 weeks away. He didn’t put up with Jerry Jones and an ungrateful fanbase all these years just to quit this close to the finish line. He gets what he wants from the Cowboys now, or gets what he wants from an organization that suits him later. No “BS on that”.
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He will go where he is told to go and he will like it.
 
Davidlee1973 said:
Why not cut dak?
Why not start lance?
Why not trade Ceedee for a first and a second?
Why not trade Micah for a first and third in 25 and first in 26?
What could we do with all those picks and all that freed up cap space.
None of these guys have proved they can win in playoffs, so why continue to pay them?
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What could you do with those picks? Probably replace one of Micah, Lamb or Dak if you got lucky and hit on a pick
 
If the OL is as bad as I saw from the clips, I don’t think we need to try to tank….
 
Beast_from_East said:
Good points, you typically dont see tanking in the NFL like you do in the NBA..............it is so blatant in the NBA and the league just looks the other direction.

Take the Spurs, they literally traded away anybody that had a more than a high school level of knowledge about the game of basketball so they would lose enough games to be at the top of the lottery just as Victor Wembyama was entering the draft after playing in Europe for the team Tony Parker happens to own..............Biggest and most blatant tank job ever and the NBA just looked the other way and pretended it was all just a big coincidence.
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They also ignore Klutch’s collusion to get players like Anthony Davis to go to the Lakers….
 
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