Twitter: Why our offense has been more effective lately

DandyDon52

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Nah. Effective in this case is scoring enough points to win the game. I’m not one of the those fans arguing that the 26th ranked offense is somehow better than the #1 ranked offense from last year because we are playing our backup QB. No way. I look at it as, playing from under center more will get teams out those 2 high safety looks and will provide QB1 with more exploitable defensive looks when he returns.

BUT…I think the Cowboys should hold off on putting him back on the field until he can take snaps under center with that thumb.

The offense will look just as crappy as parts of last year and week 1 of this year if we are in shotgun every play when Dak returns.
better get ready for crappy, as dak doesnt like under center.
 

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Rush threw 2 picks last week.
Actually , without those penalties nullifying picks it would been ugly.
But D gave us a real shot staying in by allowing only 15 points , offense can win as long they dont turn over the ball.
 

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Leaving the QB debate out of this… I have been preaching to play more under center for a long time. Play action is such a weapon and it is underutilized these days.

Dallas needs to use much more play action, regardless of who is at QB. I’m telling you it makes a huge difference to the defense. Playing DB, I hated play action. It makes everything more difficult, and the better your OL and your running backs are, the more difficult it becomes.
 

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Why are we saying that this offense is more effective when the Cowboys were scoring in the 50's during the last quarter of the 21 season and can't reach 30 this season?

This offense is absolutely not more effective. This offense is stunted. Two long runs against the Giants,, one for each RB, has helped to pad their average yards per rush. When you take these two runs away, they are both averaging around 3.3 to 3.4 yards a carry. They are averaging 2.9 yards a carry in the 4th quarter. Take away the Giants game and the only have three runs of ten or more yards.

Last season, by the end of the 4th game, the Cowboys had 10 passing TD's and 5 rushing TD's

This season it's 4 passing TD's and 2 rushing TD's, That is a 60% decrease in TD's. That is effectve?

It is the defense that has been effective.

I'm not criticizing Cooper Rush, he is a backup. I am criticizing perception. The offensive productivity so far this season has been horrendous.

The Cowboys are so fortunate to have the kind of defense we all have been hoping for because they would be 0-4 with the kind of defense they had at this same time last season.

Does anybody remember the tragic circumstances of this defense last season? They were decimated with injuries. the entire starting defensive line was hurt. Some of the backups were hurt. Jaylon Smith regressed to the point where he shouldn't have even made the team. There were times when the entire defensive line on the field were rookies. The entire interior of the Cowboys defense had been gutted.

If it hadn't been for the breakout seasons of a rookie and 2nd year player this defense would have been a national joke.

This year the defense is one of the best in the league and rivals some of the greatest Cowboys defenses in history. When the offense begins to roll after Dak returns, this team could be historic. however, at this time, the Cowboys go as their defense goes.

In the opening game, the Cowboys went in without their #2 and #3 WR's. They went in without their All Pro LT and then they lost their starting LG. Their opponent had one of the best defenses in the league. Half of the Cowboys offensive line was brand new.

Judging Dak by this single performance against such challenging circumstance isn't just unfair, it is deliberately malicious. Of course Dak looked hesitant. He wasn't familiar with half the guys he was throwing to. The Cowboys will be at full strength on offense soon when Dak, Washington, McGovern and Schultz return. Then you will be reminded what a productive offense looks like.
 

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Leaving the QB debate out of this… I have been preaching to play more under center for a long time. Play action is such a weapon and it is underutilized these days.

Dallas needs to use much more play action, regardless of who is at QB. I’m telling you it makes a huge difference to the defense. Playing DB, I hated play action. It makes everything more difficult, and the better your OL and your running backs are, the more difficult it becomes.
This is why I dont really listen to the national TV guys - they're always late to the party.

Been saying to get the QB under center since the Romo days it not only opens up play action but also lets your RB get a running start instead of getting the ball flat footed (especially would help Zeke out).

And what ever happened to the pump fake/shoulder shrug, to move the safety or get the CB to bite on the double move, Romo used to use that effectively.
 

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So if the Bengals beat the Ravens this week they will have a winning record, and they’re were a SB team last season.

So does that count as a quality team and a winning record. Or does the 0-1 records (a game they should have won) still count as beating a losing team. But are now 2-2.

If we beat the Rams with a 2-2 record, does that count as a losing record since they will be 2-3. Though they were not a losing team when we beat them. Nor a winning team.

I guess it depends on the narratives and agendas. This beating teams with winning or losing records goes for many if not all teams and QB’s.
I think it's an irrelevant and stupid point, I was being sarcastic.
 

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Rush has pretty much said it's about the defense, and he's not wrong. That's not taking anything away from Rush though, he's doing his job just fine.

This is how you win Super Bowls, by the way. Not from jersey sellers at flashy positions. The biggest negative right now, however, is our questionable run defense. It has to get cleaned up or it will come back to bite us as the season goes on.
 

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In the video they were basically saying being under center helps keep the defense honest. The DB's end up looking in the backfield longer and it slows down the defensive lineman. You add those two things together and it will make an offense look more efficient.


In 2016 Dak played under center a lot.

Nearly 2 full pages before anyone commented on the video in the OP. Three former players all making the point that you're more unpredictable under center than in shotgun. Some of us have been saying that for years.
 

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Rush threw 2 picks last week.

Yep, and he got bailed out. But I still count them when we're trying to compare QBs. I'm still more comfortable with Dak under center even though Rush might have some better qualities. Just not enough IMO.
 

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A lot of people forget that the '92 and '93 Cowboys ran all plays from under center. I think Switzer kept that going in '94 and '95. This was unheard of even for that time. But the advantage that had was no defense knew if you were running or passing. The Cowboys ran most of their plays from a few formations under center. All the defense had to go by was down and distance.
 

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In the video they were basically saying being under center helps keep the defense honest. The DB's end up looking in the backfield longer and it slows down the defensive lineman. You add those two things together and it will make an offense look more efficient.


In 2016 Dak played under center a lot.
Gawdamighty, get this to Kellen and Jerry. Shotgun should only be for certain situations. It's a pass rusher's dessert!!!!!
 

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A lot of people forget that the '92 and '93 Cowboys ran all plays from under center. I think Switzer kept that going in '94 and '95. This was unheard of even for that time. But the advantage that had was no defense knew if you were running or passing. The Cowboys ran most of their plays from a few formations under center. All the defense had to go by was down and distance.
I don't think most team ran the shotgun at that time. I think most snaps were from under center.
 

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Cooper Rush has been solid but he’s been far from excellent and our offense has been the same all season…blah! We rank 25th on offense and our passing game ranks 22nd. We haven’t scored more than two TDs in any game this season. We’re scoring almost half as many points as we did last season and are relying on our kicker and defense.
 

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Gawdamighty, get this to Kellen and Jerry. Shotgun should only be for certain situations. It's a pass rusher's dessert!!!!!

Just Moore.. Jerry knows this.. that's why he read Moore the riot act about running the ball after the Tampa game this year and why McCarthy did it after the Tampa game this year.. Quit trying to be cute and get under center and play football.. Shotgun lessens the effectiveness of our 90 million dollar running back and forces the QB to have to focus on fielding the ball for a full second or more when he could have been looking at the defense. That's why I find it hilarious that people claim Dak doesn't play under center more because he doesn't read defenses. Dropping back on the backpedal allows the QB to keep his eyes on the defense the entire time.. and not have to be worrying about where the hell the snap is going. It's literally the exact opposite.

Our own Roger Staubach stated that he hated being in shotgun for that very reason. But it became necessary when the Cowboys essentially had to replace his entire offensive line over a two year span and Roger could barely GET to his drop backs without getting killed. Most of his contemporaries felt the same way. The only reason QBs favor it now is because they've been running it since they were 7 years old and don't know any better.
 

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Cooper Rush has been solid but he’s been far from excellent and our offense has been the same all season…blah! We rank 25th on offense and our passing game ranks 22nd. We haven’t scored more than two TDs in any game this season. We’re scoring almost half as many points as we did last season and are relying on our kicker and defense.

People are just happy to be getting wins and crediting the QB for being the difference is low hanging fruit. Crediting the defense for refusing to let the other team into the end zone and the OC for calling a more balanced game requires more thinking.. and who wants to do any thinking on the internet.
 
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