Why the Cowboys's season is not over

Star4Ever;2355811 said:
By the way, some of you are blaming injuries for our loss. We didn't have the injuries last week, or against the Bengals or Skins. Every team has injuries. Yes, we've been hit particularly hard, but that is not an excuse. To get the hell beat of us by a terrible team is just embarrassing.

Well with Bulger, Holt and Jackson around they aren't terrible. They got up due to turnovers and a short field. They had a great day passing due to inexperience of the CBs and problems at safety. They gave up big runs because players made mistakes and one of the biggest was Ware not playing the run and containing outside. Yep. Our greatest player made some mistakes. Johnson doesn't have the tools to make the same throws that Romo does. Here's a coaching error. Garrett should have seen that and stopped asking him to make them. But he's not going to bring this team back from that big a lead on his first start. There's more. It's mistakes guys.
 
Look at Atlanta. They have a rookie QB. They have a rookie head coach. They have a fraction of our overall talent. Yet they bust their butts and play as a team. They probably wouldn't trade their roster for ours right now. They certainly wouldn't do a head coaching swap.
 
jobberone;2355862 said:
. They gave up big runs because players made mistakes and one of the biggest was Ware not playing the run and containing outside. Yep. Our greatest player made some mistakes.
I thought I was the only one that saw that.
 
jobberone;2355288 said:
Back in 1970 I sat in my college room watching the Cowboys lose to St Louis (Cardinals then) by a score of 38-0 on Monday Night Football. Dandy Don sang the good night the parties over song and Howard Cosell sat there grumping and predicting doom and gloom for the Cowboys.

Ole Dandy just laughed and slapped him down.

They were 5-4 after that disappointing loss. And they had lost the NFL championship to GB in 66 and 67 then lost the Eastern Division championship to Cleveland the last two years. They were the team that couldn't win the big one. They couldn't get to the SB. They were talented and good but not good enough. And now it looked like they weren't that good or talented.

They had a player's only meeting. They rallied around the leaders of the team. They had five games left to turn their season around. They won their final five games that year to win the Eastern Division championshp. No wild cards those days.

They then had the honor to play Detroit and their very good hard nosed defense for the right to play in the NFL championship game. They were spectacular on defense in a home game. They out defensed a very good Detroit team who threw a game out there that should have been good enough to win 95% of the time. I mean it was a bruiser that wasn't won until the very end of the game. 5-0. Not a baseball score.

Then they went to San Francisco to play a very good 49s team. They came from behind in Staubach fashion to win that game 17-10 and earn the right to play the Colts in the SB.

They really outplayed the Colts but lost the game with a last minute field goal. They still hadn't won the big one. Lilly threw his helmet must have been 50 yards in frustration.

But they had proved they were talented and very good. And they had rebounded from a 38-0 loss going 5-4 to playing in a SB.

I have another story for you but I'm going to wait and throw it out there later in the week.

I understand the frustration and disappointment. But let's try to keep the we suck, he sucks, he needs to be cut and he needs to be fired stuff in our frustrated minds and be fans supporting out team hoping they will turn their season around, too. And we have the talent. Too much is on IR and the sidelines but we're still talented and capable of winning a SB.

Go Cowboys.

Post of the day:bow:
And we can still be a 13-3 team!
Go Cowboys!:starspin
 
Lets be honest here, the expectations were for this team to lose 1 or 2 games all year, be the #1 seed in the playoffs, and go to the Superbowl.

That is now over with, we will be lucky to even quailify for the last wildcard spot.

And if you guys think we can win 3 road playoff games when we cant even beat the freaking Rams on the road, yall are dreaming. We are going to get bounced in the first round, if we make the playoffs at all.
 
jobberone;2355862 said:
Well with Bulger, Holt and Jackson around they aren't terrible. They got up due to turnovers and a short field. They had a great day passing due to inexperience of the CBs and problems at safety. They gave up big runs because players made mistakes and one of the biggest was Ware not playing the run and containing outside. Yep. Our greatest player made some mistakes. Johnson doesn't have the tools to make the same throws that Romo does. Here's a coaching error. Garrett should have seen that and stopped asking him to make them. But he's not going to bring this team back from that big a lead on his first start. There's more. It's mistakes guys.

More excuses. It's football. You either beat the guy across from you or you don't. Our schemes are poor, our motivation is poor, our leadership is poor, and our players have no heart. I've never felt this way before, but I now believe we've got at least some guys on the team that are just happy cashing their large paychecks. Yea, they got up on us because of turnovers. Guess what? Don't turn the ball over. Our run defense got shredded by a woeful O-line. Everything you stated is a mistake on OUR part. That's part of football. We can't get our mistakes corrected. The players and coaching staff pay a lot of lip service to it, but they certainly don't walk the walk. We need a Jimmy Johnson, someone that would cut a player's *** for play like this. That's why the teams of the early 90's were so good. They held each other accountable. These players are happy just wearing the uniform and cashing the check.
 
ladiewolve;2355890 said:
Post of the day:bow:
And we can still be a 13-3 team!
Go Cowboys!:starspin

The problem is that 1970 team had a lot of players with character, i.e. Staubach, Lily, etc. This team only has characters. Until today I would not have posted this.
 
People really need to give up on the idea of going 13-3.

This team is just not that good and it is a bit suprising that people are still saying this after what they saw today. To actually think we can run the table and win every game after seeing the trash they presented today, amazing.

Remember folks, though we posted a 4-2 mark with Romo, I still feel the guy wasn't playing all that well, so I wouldn't be suprised if we still have the same problems when he comes back.

As a matter fact, the MAJOR problem we are still having, the Offensive Line, is the reason he is on the sidelines.
 
Maikeru-sama;2355985 said:
People really need to give up on the idea of going 13-3.

This team is just not that good and it is a bit suprising that people are still saying this after what they saw today. To actually think we will run the table and win every game after seeing the trash they presented today, amazing.

Remember folks, though we posted a 4-2 mark with Romo, I still feel the guy wasn't playing all that well, so I wouldn't be suprised if we still have the same problems when he comes back.

As a matter fact, the MAJOR problem we are still having, the Offensive Line, is the reason he is on the sidelines.

I still would like to know how our poor play over the last month is largely TO's fault?(like some Zoners have said)
 
Boysboy;2355997 said:
I still would like to know how our poor play over the last month is largely TO's fault?(like some Zoners have said)

I never said that.

However, he isn't free from blame either.
 
Boysboy;2355997 said:
I still would like to know how our poor play over the last month is largely TO's fault?(like some Zoners have said)
Who's said that? I haven't seen anyone say that.
 
jimmy40;2356016 said:
Who's said that? I haven't seen anyone say that.

theebs, McCordsvilleCowboy, Dave_in-NC, big dog cowboy, tyke, CaptainAmerica...

Want more?
 
Maikeru-sama;2356011 said:
I never said that.

However, he isn't free from blame either.
and he shouldn't be screaming at anyone else when he's stinking the joint up either.
 
Boysboy;2356025 said:
If you bother to read their posts, they've said it many times.
show me a post where they say our poor play is LARGELY TO's fault. I must have missed all those posts somehow.
 
Star4Ever;2355954 said:
More excuses. It's football. You either beat the guy across from you or you don't. Our schemes are poor, our motivation is poor, our leadership is poor, and our players have no heart. I've never felt this way before, but I now believe we've got at least some guys on the team that are just happy cashing their large paychecks. Yea, they got up on us because of turnovers. Guess what? Don't turn the ball over. Our run defense got shredded by a woeful O-line. Everything you stated is a mistake on OUR part. That's part of football. We can't get our mistakes corrected. The players and coaching staff pay a lot of lip service to it, but they certainly don't walk the walk. We need a Jimmy Johnson, someone that would cut a player's *** for play like this. That's why the teams of the early 90's were so good. They held each other accountable. These players are happy just wearing the uniform and cashing the check.

I wasn't making excuses for them. I told you some reasons why they lost. You're so far off base with most of the stuff you're saying I don't know where to start. Thinking a coaching change in the middle of the year with your star QB hurt, having lost your best 2 CBs, etc is minimalistic reasoning. There are real reasons why things happened today outside the turnovers. There were reasons why the offense never got going esp after they got down too far. It has nothing to do with lack of desire and all the other esoteric things you and others are espousing. It all comes down to doing their jobs and knowing what their jobs are. Some is coaching. Most isn't.

I'm afraid the reasons are not as simple as you're making it and you're going to make it impossible to win with a new coach at this point in time. But if you want to cry for your deliverer go ahead. You ain't Moses and Jimmy Johnson isn't coming back.
 
jimmy40;2356042 said:
show me a post where they say our poor play is LARGELY TO's fault. I must have missed all those posts somehow.

They said he's sharply divided the locker room, when there's no evidence to the contrary.
 
And I thought I was old! :D

I watched that game as a kid and sat in front of the tv sick to my stomach.

Big difference today is we had Tom Landry as a HC and a young Roger Staubach waiting for hs chance.

You make a good point that it's a long season and a team can turn it around. But the way Jerry has created such a dysfunctional situation with the HC, the OC and his involvement in the football team, makes me believe this team won't turn it around like that old Cowboy team.
 

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