CFZ With our Legacy would you have went all in like the Rams to win our 6th Superbowl?

Captain43Crash

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Yes, but making money has nothing to do with his not winning a SB, in fact with more trophies the franchise value would jump even higher.

How people think he makes more money by NOT winning titles mystifies me. And it's not that he can't make money AND win titles, the two aren't mutually exclusive, you know. Is Robert Kraft a poor man because his team won 6 SBs?

Jerry so wants another SB win, but he has to do it his way, which he just can't see will never happen.

But that's Jerry, he'll go to his grave with the 3 SBs in the 1993s, forever thinking that surely with his brains he'd win one sooner or later...
I hope you are wrong, but sadly you might be right.
 

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In your 27 years you so like to bring up (28 actually) We've made the playoffs 12 times , Loss in the divisional round to the eventual super bowl champ 3 times 1 time to the Super Bowl Loser.

So you and all of you keep itching if it makes you happy, I don't care dude seriously. Just so you know, there is no course for me to keep, I just root for the team. When that becomes unenjoyable venture (which it Never will )

I'll stop ! So you have a nice day alright !!! Seriously !
I get your drift, but there's two more points:

First, we (older fans like me) have seen the promised land 5 times, the last 28 in comparison IS "suckage", we aren't the Lions or Jags or Bills, who can appreciate 12 playoff appearances, etc., we want more.

Second, being in the playoffs so many times and coming away empty handed (as far as SB trophies go) makes it even worse than not being in the playoffs at all.

And that's not to mention the fact that older fans like me don't have another 30-40 or more years to wait for another title, I figure I've got maybe 20, at most, so every year that passes with no more success than the once every 7 years on the average to squeeze out one playoff win makes us less likely and less hopeful that we'll ever see another hoisting of the shiny gold football.

I'm glad you can just "root for the team", to each his own, but we old farts have earned the right to gripe.....
 

Calvin2Tony2Emmitt2Julius

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I get your drift, but there's two more points:

First, we (older fans like me) have seen the promised land 5 times, the last 28 in comparison IS "suckage", we aren't the Lions or Jags or Bills, who can appreciate 12 playoff appearances, etc., we want more.

Second, being in the playoffs so many times and coming away empty handed (as far as SB trophies go) makes it even worse than not being in the playoffs at all.

And that's not to mention the fact that older fans like me don't have another 30-40 or more years to wait for another title, I figure I've got maybe 20, at most, so every year that passes with no more success than the once every 7 years on the average to squeeze out one playoff win makes us less likely and less hopeful that we'll ever see another hoisting of the shiny gold football.

I'm glad you can just "root for the team", to each his own, but we old farts have earned the right to gripe.....
I hear ya dude! do you think I tune in to see us loose
 

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Yes, but making money has nothing to do with his not winning a SB, in fact with more trophies the franchise value would jump even higher.

How people think he makes more money by NOT winning titles mystifies me. And it's not that he can't make money AND win titles, the two aren't mutually exclusive, you know. Is Robert Kraft a poor man because his team won 6 SBs?

Jerry so wants another SB win, but he has to do it his way, which he just can't see will never happen.

But that's Jerry, he'll go to his grave with the 3 SBs in the 1993s, forever thinking that surely with his brains he'd win one sooner or later...
I think the older JJ get's the more I believe he wants to make some moves, but for some reason I also believe JJ is a legend in his own mind and believes he can get to another SB through all the draft picks he makes and that just isn't going to happen. JJ will die having gone to the three SBs that Jimmy Johnson was heavy handed in. If it weren't for Jimmy Johnson's personnel moves, there's a huge chance the Boys would have missed every SB under JJ's ownership.
 

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Had Jerry checked his ego and left Jimmy alone, we'd already have at least 2 more SB trophies. As long as Jerry and Stephen are running this circus, don't expect more than a 1st round win once in a while...
 

Ken

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If we had the 85 Bears defense and Tom Brady to start the season nothing would be guaranteed! Get real!

You will never be ready to go all in.
No, i am against the all in approach. The Rams are exactly what I don't want to do with my team to build a winner. The Eagles are closer to my idea but still not ideal.

Trading for players who need big money or are a year from big money is not sustainable either. You need to hit on those draft picks that continue to give you cheap years at high production.

Dallas has overcorrected IMO. They need to sign a big FA or two every year to fill holes, not fill with stop gaps. If they did that and still put premiums on their draft, it would work without a doubt. It would work for a longer time period too.
 

john van brocklin

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Sounds like we have some fans that don’t believe in going all in! Kinda like Jerry.

With our legacy( 5 Superbowl wins and 8 Superbowl appearances) or even without our legacy( the Rams legacy), I would go ALL in with the team we have right now!

Our legacy right now, is just below, New England and Pittsburghs legacies, and equal to the Whiners legacy. Everyone else is looking up at our legacy. This is after 27 LONG years of failure in the playoffs!!

I know some of you don’t think we can win a Superbowl with Dak, but WE can!
I know our D played well in the playoffs, but we all know, it could have played better( the long drive the Whiners had, the Whiners scored easily before the half). The D needs a couple of elite pieces to be a TRULY dominant D. We need an elite run stuffing DT to pair with Hankins, an elite LBer, Bobby Wagner, to free up Micah( add 15 pounds and rush the passer more) and possibly an upgrade at CB, though I do like our young CB’s.

With a few moves for the Defense, we will still have the draft capital, FA, and possible trades to improve our offense( a 2nd receiver, possible upgrades on the O line, and a middle round draft choice to replace Zek)

With a truly DOMINANT D and a strong running game, Dak can JUST drive the bus.

We need to go all in THIS YEAR to STRENGTHEN our LEGACY!

A SUPERBOWL victory puts us at the top of the NFL mountain!!!
Sorry my friend, Jerry has spoken.
You will be just relevant, and you will like it...
 

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Not in this day and age. Teams other than the 5 cursed ones (Dallas, Washington, Detroit, Cleveland, and Miami) are able to compete at least once per decade. Some are able to contend, blow up, rebuild, and contend again within 5 years. We just watched Philly do this.
They didn't win.
 

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Winning just one Super Bowl would just make the Cowboys an "average" team over the course of 27 seasons. The Cowboys must build a team capable of competing for several seasons in the hopes of winning multiple Super bowls. Of course, the problem is that Jerry Jones has no real plan for building such a team.
 

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The results are already devastating. No Superbowl appearances in 27 years. Playoff appearances don’t matter, Superbowl appearances do.

There is only 1 winner in the NFL every year. Everyone else is a loser.
And this year two of those losers were teams that went "all in", the Bills and Eagles.
 

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How people think he makes more money by NOT winning titles mystifies me.
Winning SB has nothing to do with how much $ jerry makes each year.
Jerry and the other owners make the bulk of their $ off of home games, was 8 per season, now they get 9 every other year.
That money is all gravy, the cap (tv money) pays for the players.
If dallas gets to play home games in playoffs, then that is more gravy.

So winning can get jerry extra $ if they are home games, but if on the road, costs him $.

with more trophies the franchise value would jump even higher........not really, all that would do is sell more merchandise, which isnt going to amount
to whole lot of extra $.
Jerry makes a lot of money each year off the home games,and the stadium value being real estate, goes up in value, so that what increases franchise value.
So jerry does not have to win or win a sb to make same amount each year, as long as stadium keeps filling up , he gets the big $.

Cowboys are jerrys toy, and he likes playing with it, so that is the real thrill for him , not winning a SB. SB win would just be the cherry on top.
 
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khiladi

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Winning SB has nothing to do with how much $ jerry makes each year.
Jerry and the other owners make the bulk of their $ off of home games, was 8 per season, now they get 9 every other year.
That money is all gravy, the cap (tv money) pays for the players.
If dallas gets to play home games in playoffs, then that is more gravy.

So winning can get jerry extra $ if they are home games, but if on the road, costs him $.

with more trophies the franchise value would jump even higher........not really, all that would do is sell more merchandise, which isnt going to amount
to whole lot of extra $.
Jerry makes a lot of money each year off the home games,and the stadium value being real estate, goes up in value, so that what increases franchise value.
So jerry does not have to win or win a sb to make same amount each year, as long as stadium keeps filling up , he gets the big $.

Cowboys are jerrys toy, and he likes playing with it, so that is the real thrill for him , not winning a SB. SB win would just be the cherry on top.
Jerry makes money off other stadiums as one of his companies does the luxury box seats and sales for multiple teams. I forget the name though.
 

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I am a big fan of doing everything you can to help your team win. I'm not trading 2 1st round picks for a player but i am in favor of upgrading any position possible with a free agent, trade etc.
 

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No, i am against the all in approach. The Rams are exactly what I don't want to do with my team to build a winner. The Eagles are closer to my idea but still not ideal.

Trading for players who need big money or are a year from big money is not sustainable either. You need to hit on those draft picks that continue to give you cheap years at high production.

Dallas has overcorrected IMO. They need to sign a big FA or two every year to fill holes, not fill with stop gaps. If they did that and still put premiums on their draft, it would work without a doubt. It would work for a longer time period too.
You are basically saying go all in! It takes big cash to sign a big free agent or two.

I agree with you. Use the draft, and sign a big free agent or two, when your team is close. Take a calculated risk on a big FA or two!
 

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The Cowboys are never going to win another Super Bowl as long as Jerry and son are playing fantasy football front office. It sucks, but it is time that we all accept it.
Stop talking yourselves into believing these two bozos, who've been playing this game for almost three decades, are suddenly going to outsmart the rest of the NFL.

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LACowboysFan1

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Winning SB has nothing to do with how much $ jerry makes each year.
Jerry and the other owners make the bulk of their $ off of home games, was 8 per season, now they get 9 every other year.
That money is all gravy, the cap (tv money) pays for the players.
If dallas gets to play home games in playoffs, then that is more gravy.

So winning can get jerry extra $ if they are home games, but if on the road, costs him $.

with more trophies the franchise value would jump even higher........not really, all that would do is sell more merchandise, which isnt going to amount
to whole lot of extra $.
Jerry makes a lot of money each year off the home games,and the stadium value being real estate, goes up in value, so that what increases franchise value.
So jerry does not have to win or win a sb to make same amount each year, as long as stadium keeps filling up , he gets the big $.

Cowboys are jerrys toy, and he likes playing with it, so that is the real thrill for him , not winning a SB. SB win would just be the cherry on top.
The more poplular the team, the more money the owner makes, winning SBs brings in bandwagon fans and re-energizes older fans. For example, myself, I've quit buying Cowboys merchandise until they start winning more playoff games, etc.

You and I don't spend hours and hours a week figuring out how to make more money off the team, but you can bet your bottom dollar Jerry and his people do. If the teams wins another SB, there will be a big influx of money to the team. No doubt about it. And Jerry knows it.
 
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