Would Giants fans rank Romo over Eli

[percyhoward]

Marino would be in my top 10 but it's really not me or my opinion that is the point of the discussion. It's how QBs are viewed from the perspective of the Media and the League IMO.

And despite Plunkett's Super Bowl performances, the perception is that he wasn't in Fouts' league.

 

[HappyOnions]

If this exact same situation were reversed...had Eli not had the rings but all the stats...and Romo had the two rings...would all of you be using the same logic?

I think not...

 

[ufcrules1]

If this exact same situation were reversed...had Eli not had the rings but all the stats...and Romo had the two rings...would all of you be using the same logic?

I think not...

No, If Romo played like Montana in the playoffs and was a 2 time super bowl MVP, I would certainly put him over Eli.

 

[DFWJC]

The thread asks what Giants fans think, not what think.
You would assume they would side with their QB.
It's Ireland if we think they're right or wrong.
That discussion can be found in 25,433 other threads

 

[Seanleebaby]

Eli is better because in his prime, he was one of the best 4th quarter QB's you can find. Romo is a good 4th quarter QB. But Eli did it at an amazing clip and also did it twice to the best team of the last 15 years in the Super Bowl. That really can't be understated. Career for career, no one will ever say Romos better. One actually has a shot at the hall of fame while the other won't sniff it.

Another funny note, you guys bash the Eagles for no rings and toss around your 5 as if you personally helped them win it. So I'm not sure why you guys can't grasp that concept when comparing romo and Eli. It's pretty much the same argument, just not working in your favor.

 

[BIGDen]

Eli is better because in his prime, he was one of the best 4th quarter QB's you can find. Romo is a good 4th quarter QB. But Eli did it at an amazing clip and also did it twice to the best team of the last 15 years in the Super Bowl. That really can't be understated. Career for career, no one will ever say Romos better. One actually has a shot at the hall of fame while the other won't sniff it.

Another funny note, you guys bash the Eagles for no rings and toss around your 5 as if you personally helped them win it. So I'm not sure why you guys can't grasp that concept when comparing romo and Eli. It's pretty much the same argument, just not working in your favor.

This was one of the dumbest posts I've read in a while. I'm sure there are other comparable posts but I probably just have those people on "ignore". Romo is statistically as great a 4th quarter QB as there has ever been. Highest 4th quarter QB rating and most game winning drives since 2006. Bragging about TEAM accomplishments like 5 rings over the ringless Eagles makes sense. Rings are team accomplishments. Comparing players and using TEAM accomplishments is pure stupidity so the Cowboys/Eagles, Romo/Eli arguments are NOT the same in that regard. When you compare the players, it's easy to see that there really is no comparison.

As far as the answer to the question. Intelligent fans, regardless of the team, who are actually able to compare QBs would say Romo. Those who stupidly lump SB wins (see Dilfer, Johnson, Hostetler, etc.) in with a QB's abilities would say otherwise. QBs are not judged just by TEAM accomplishments by intelligent fans. Marino, Fouts, etc. are significantly better than Hostetler, Dilfer, and Johnson could ever hope to be.

 

[gbrittain]

This was one of the dumbest posts I've read in a while. I'm sure there are other comparable posts but I probably just have those people on "ignore". Romo is statistically as great a 4th quarter QB as there has ever been. Highest 4th quarter QB rating and most game winning drives since 2006. Bragging about TEAM accomplishments like 5 rings over the ringless Eagles makes sense. Rings are team accomplishments. Comparing players and using TEAM accomplishments is pure stupidity so the Cowboys/Eagles, Romo/Eli arguments are NOT the same in that regard. When you compare the players, it's easy to see that there really is no comparison.

As far as the answer to the question. Intelligent fans, regardless of the team, who are actually able to compare QBs would say Romo. Those who stupidly lump SB wins (see Dilfer, Johnson, Hostetler, etc.) in with a QB's abilities would say otherwise. QBs are not judged just by TEAM accomplishments by intelligent fans. Marino, Fouts, etc. are significantly better than Hostetler, Dilfer, and Johnson could ever hope to be.

I just read all 26 messages he has ever posted...dude is an Eagles fan. LOL

No wonder his posts are moronic.

 

[cml750]

If Romo was on the Giants, they would have won 3 or 4 Superbowls. They had a defense and a real HC for several years. We haven't had much defense during Romo' tenure and wasted a few years on a coach doing OJT and a few years on a powder-puff coach. Garrett may be finally getting it(we will see next year) but there is no doubt we wasted time during Romo's prime while he was learning on the job.

 

[DFWJC]

The thread asks what Giants fans think, not what think.
You would assume they would side with their QB.
It's Ireland if we think they're right or wrong.
That discussion can be found in 25,433 other threads

It's Ireland??? Wow...spellcheck

It's irrelevant how feel about the QBs is what I meant.

 

[DFWJC]

Eli is better because in his prime, he was one of the best 4th quarter QB's you can find. Romo is a good 4th quarter QB. But Eli did it at an amazing clip and also did it twice to the best team of the last 15 years in the Super Bowl. That really can't be understated. Career for career, no one will ever say Romos better. One actually has a shot at the hall of fame while the other won't sniff it.

Another funny note, you guys bash the Eagles for no rings and toss around your 5 as if you personally helped them win it. So I'm not sure why you guys can't grasp that concept when comparing romo and Eli. It's pretty much the same argument, just not working in your favor.

I think I just lost IQ points reading this mess

 

[Nova]

If Romo was on the Giants, they would have won 3 or 4 Superbowls. They had a defense and a real HC for several years. We haven't had much defense during Romo' tenure and wasted a few years on a coach doing OJT and a few years on a powder-puff coach. Garrett may be finally getting it(we will see next year) but there is no doubt we wasted time during Romo's prime while he was learning on the job.

Interesting to note. I tend to agree. Maybe he wouldn't have the game winning, dramatic drives to hoist the Lombardi, but I think Romo would have had back to back super bowls in 07 and 08.

The giants should have repeated in 08. The Giants had far and away the best team in the nfl that season as they beat all 4 conference champion contestants convincingly, including SB winner PIT on the road. But once plaxico Burress shot himself and defenses could key in on stopping the run, Eli faltered. They would have been better off with Romo.

 

[CyberB0b]

Rather than pure talent, Giants fans have two Super Bowl MVP's to point at to "prove" he's better.

Yeah, what do they know. Super Bowl MVPs mean jack.

 

[ftghb]

manning to me, typifies the modern day trent dilfer. On a winning team, makes the key throws when he has to, but has to rely on a strong running game and great defenses. pedestrian numbers in today's passing era. turns the ball over more than you would like for a 'good' qb

Let's be honest, in those pats vs. giants superbowls, would you rather have had the defensive line or eli?

 

[ftghb]

Interesting to note. I tend to agree. Maybe he wouldn't have the game winning, dramatic drives to hoist the Lombardi, but I think Romo would have had back to back super bowls in 07 and 08.

The giants should have repeated in 08. The Giants had far and away the best team in the nfl that season as they beat all 4 conference champion contestants convincingly, including SB winner PIT on the road. But once plaxico Burress shot himself and defenses could key in on stopping the run, Eli faltered. They would have been better off with Romo.

i promise you, stopping those patriots passing attacks featuring (moss, welker, gronk and hernandez) was a much more impressive feat than putting 17 points on those forgettable patriots defenses

 

[DFWJC]

i promise you, stopping those patriots passing attacks featuring (moss, welker, gronk and hernandez) was a much more impressive feat than putting 17 points on those forgettable patriots defenses

By far more impressive, yes.

The default SB MVP goes to the QB. Unless a defensive player gets a critical int or multiple sacks, the easy way out is to just give it to the QB.

For example, the 2007 Pats offense was one of most productive in all of history.
Yet the Giants held them to a measly 14 points!
That was by far their least points all year.

Eli only completed 56% of his passes and had a mediocre QB rating of 87 vs an average defense.
Yet he is called SB MVP. It was all about the historic effort of that defense, but no single guy to give it to.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I just read all 26 messages he has ever posted...dude is an Eagles fan. LOL

No wonder his posts are moronic.

Lol

I didn't have to read all 26 posts... Something about his "funny note" made think he was eagles fan lol


And... And... And....

I quote, "and toss around your 5"


Lol

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

By far more impressive, yes.

The default SB MVP goes to the QB. Unless a defensive player gets a critical int or multiple sacks, the easy way out is to just give it to the QB.

The DB in NE disagrees with you.
Lol

 

[Jason 82 Witten]

Eli won his Super Bowls with defense and lucky catches. He has two rings none the less

 

[PoundTheRock]

The salt from Cowboys fans when Eli Manning is inducted into the HOF while Romo is basically a joke candidate is going to be hilarious.

 

[5Stars]

The salt from Cowboys fans when Eli Manning is inducted into the HOF while Romo is basically a joke candidate is going to be hilarious.

Right...Romo could not hold Eli's jock (that is if Eli needs one)