Would Wade have had the guts to call that onside kick that Payton called?

[Venger]

I dont think you can put Wade and guts in the same sentance after that Gutless 4-1 field goal call.

QFT...

 

[jimmy40]

Not sure if you saw the America's Game tribute to that team...with Michael Irvin being interviewed and saying that he ran down the field trailing the play thinking "Wait...he's running with my pass!!!"

Funny stuff.

The play was to Harper on the other side but Irvin made him switch sides so he would get the ball but the coverage made Aikman go to Harper anyway. Aikman said he wasn't sure if Harper would read the coverage right but he had to trust that he would. You must have turned the channel when Aikman explained all this.

 

[jterrell]

Like Ernie Zampese said, "if a play works it was a genius call. If it fails it was ignorant." Too many with no grasp of the obvious.

exactly.

not only that but that ball was very nearly recovered by the Colts.
it was hardly a sure-fire thing.

Kudos to Payton for trying it and for attacking the Colts all day with Brees' ridiculous accuracy on intermediate routes but that call is a 50/50 thing and G.O.A.T. (greatest of all time) to goat is a short, short trip. Just ask Peyton Manning who was hailed all week as the best QB ever to play the game then just a .500 (9-9) in the playoffs QB after the loss.

Pittsburgh with Cowher did the same to us in a SB but it was early 4th quarter not right out of the half.

 

[jterrell]

Agreed. That was a stupid gamble as well.

Naw, ask the Wade haters... you always go for it on 4th and short.

Switzer > Wade....

 

[Switz]

Would Wade have had the guts to call that onside kick that Payton called?
I say no and never will. Your thoughts.

:starspin

dude wade kicked a 49 yard FG with a shaky kicker in minny on 4 and 1... No way wade goes onside... he would have turled up last night and we would have lost. Really it is that simple. No guts no Glory. Good way to live life and be sucessful.... No one is talking about the 4th and 1 today are they? gotta take risks in life. IMO

 

[Doomsday101]

dude wade kicked a 49 yard FG with a shaky kicker in minny on 4 and 1... No way wade goes onside... he would have turled up last night and we would have lost. Really it is that simple. No guts no Glory. Good way to live life and be sucessful.... No one is talking about the 4th and 1 today are they? gotta take risks in life. IMO

then why was that the 1st time in NFL SB history that a team opened the 2nd half with the onside kick? I guess most HC have shown they would not do it or it would have been done already, Wade has gone for 4th an 1 before so the idea that he would not take a risk is not true.

 

[jterrell]

then why was that the 1st time in NFL SB history that a team opened the 2nd half with the onside kick? I guess most HC have shown they would not do it or it would have been done already, Wade has gone for 4th an 1 before so the idea that he would not take a risk is not true.

Please don't feed the animals.

 

[adbutcher]

Like Ernie Zampese said, "if a play works it was a genius call. If it fails it was ignorant." Too many with no grasp of the obvious.

 

[CF74]

Like Ernie Zampese said, "if a play works it was a genius call. If it fails it was ignorant." Too many with no grasp of the obvious.

I see it as more of a gamble than anything else. The odds were against him from the beginning so it was a bad call even though it worked. The ball just happened to bounce for the Saints and the rest is history.

Sean Peyton = Best Gambler of the Decade

 

[dhaber]

You're kidding, right???

 

[CF74]

You're kidding, right???

I don't know the actual stats on the success ratio of onsides kicks but I'm sure it fails more often than not. I applaud his courage to take the risk but to me it was a bad call from the onset. Being lucky doesn't make you wise, it just means you're lucky...

 

[The Realist]

dude wade kicked a 49 yard FG with a shaky kicker in minny on 4 and 1... No way wade goes onside... he would have turled up last night and we would have lost. Really it is that simple. No guts no Glory. Good way to live life and be sucessful.... No one is talking about the 4th and 1 today are they? gotta take risks in life. IMO

That late throw across the middle by Favre was gutsy.

 

[Bonecrusher#31]

I don't think Wade would have the sack to call for that onside kick but I believe Jason Garrett does...

 

[sonnyboy]

1) Of course Wade would have the balls to do it if in their film study for the game, they saw a good opportunity to pull it off.

2) The surpise onside kick was a great call. And not just because it worked. The potential possesion and momentum gain is HUGE. It far outweighs the potential 30-45 yards of lost field position.

3) The decision to go for it on 4th and goal was also brilliant. i didn't agree with it myself until they didn't make it and I realized the Colts now had a loooong field and very little time. Chances are they'd go conservative and basically waste the possesion. Of course that's exactly what happened.

I'm wondering if all the posters disagreeing with these calls are actually bitter that the Saints won and refuse to give credit where it's due.

Myself, I had no rooting interest in the game. Don't hate either team.

Sean Peyton is the first coach I can remember thinking deserved the SB MVP.

 

[jman]

dude wade kicked a 49 yard FG with a shaky kicker in minny on 4 and 1... No way wade goes onside... he would have turled up last night and we would have lost. Really it is that simple. No guts no Glory. Good way to live life and be sucessful.... No one is talking about the 4th and 1 today are they? gotta take risks in life. IMO

First, it wasn't as much a gutsy call as it was a calculated call.

Sean Payton advised the officials before the game that he may try an on-sides kick.

What he saw on film was that the left side of the front line of the Colts receiving team liked to cheat a little and would always turn and run before the ball was kicked instead of waiting for the ball to go over their heads.

Film study...not "Gut's and Glory". Payton saw an opportunity and took it. It worked. Blame the Colts for bad special team’s discipline as much as praising Payton for a “gutsy” call.

 

[sonnyboy]

I don't know the actual stats on the success ratio of onsides kicks but I'm sure it fails more often than not. I applaud his courage to take the risk but to me it was a bad call from the onset. Being lucky doesn't make you wise, it just means you're lucky...

Well it's the success rate on surprise onside kicks that matters. I'd guess it's well above 50%, but we are talking about a small sample here. Big difference when you have the hands team waiting 10 yards away.

The only one I can remember not working, was the one Reid tried to pull on us in 2003 that we return for a game opening TD.

Every other one I can actually remember, worked.

 

[utrunner07]

Would Wade have had the guts to call that onside kick that Payton called?
I say no and never will. Your thoughts.

:starspin

Its called arrogance, not guts, and no, Wade never makes that call.

 

[The Realist]

Its called arrogance, not guts, and no, Wade never makes that call.

Why is preparation and desire to win referred to you as arrogance?

 

[CF74]

I don't think Wade would have the sack to call for that onside kick but I believe Jason Garrett does...

Yep as much as a critique as I've been of Garrett I believe it was Wade's decision to kick the field goal on 4rth and 1 plus, running the ball multiple times in short yardage situations to the point of failure. That had old school written all over it and I'm willing to bet Garrett wanted to go for it and I bet he wanted to mix in a pass on those 4 back to back runs...

 

[utrunner07]

Why is preparation and desire to win referred to you as arrogance?

Mainly because I detest Sean Payton and the entire Saints organization from their senile owner to the trailer park trash tight end, to the disgusting, whining city that they call home. Good enough reason?