Would you like to see Drew Bledsoe back next year?

[Jarv]

All I am saying is man, hes the QB of the Dallas Cowboys, Your Dallas Cowboys. I dont get it. Why would you wanna tear down something of your own. Save that crap for someone that does not deserve to be a Cowboy. This guy played his butt off for YOU! And you bag on him, after turning the best QB season for a Cowboys QB in 10+ years. After taking you on an emotion filled ride that ended just short of the gates to the promiseland.

Based on what we have seen, I am eating up watching Drew. A real QB. I am loving every minute, every TD. To me, hearing you guys tear down Bledsoe is akin to a guy dogging his own GF. I never understood that either.

When you have a legitamate whine, fine. But a gut feeling. After what you saw this year, your football instincts dont tell you your history book could be wrong this time. You cant see that with an improved O-line play all year, we would have been a much, much better team from top to bottom, Bledsoe included. You cant see how a better line play would have helped us beat the skins in week 2. scoring 13 points is not indicative of a juggernaut.The Seahawks game, a better line would not have changed that game at all? The Denver game. This last Commander game, this last game period. A better line would have turned this offense into at least 7 more points in every game, making them all winnable except the skins game, that was an aberation, but we would have and should have scored more.

With the penalties and turnovers we crippled ourselves, how many times did we put undue pressure on Bledsoe with a 3 and 3 turned into 3rd and 8 or 3rd and 13? How many TD's came back because of penalties? How many times did we re-score that TD after the penalty?

If you cant see that the Oline sucked the life out of this offense the last half, maybe you should read a different history book. Maybe you should have your dr check your gut out. They were our achilles heel this year and they effected every facet of the team, including defense. (Cant say they directly caused special teams meltdowns).

Wow, did you even read my post.

Drew has a lot of positive stats and a lot of negatives ones.

He threw for a lot of TD's and Yards. He was sacked alot, gave up too many fumbles and had some bad INT's.


To me, the negative outweigh the postive.

By the way, my Dr. did check my gut, besides it being larger than it should be, everything else is fine

I've been a fan since 1971, rarely ever miss a game. I root for whatever QB we have on the field. the only difference between you and I is that now that the season is over I would rather see another QB play for us.

if Bledsoe is the QB next year I'll root for him again. IMHO I would rather see see someone else out there, so shoot me.

 

[superpunk]

who's blaming it all on drew? NOT me or show me where i did. what i have said people tend to overlook is yes, w/protection he's a very good qb.

So why not treat the real problem, which is no depth along the Oline, and pathetic run blocking. We've seen what Drew can do with protection. Maybe Henson's the future. Just because we haven't seen him doesn't make it untrue. If not, I think the Cowboys have as good a chance as anyone next year with Bledsoe, and hopefully we'll become aware of someone stepping up as to plans for the future.

 

[superpunk]

if Bledsoe is the QB next year I'll root for him again. IMHO I would rather see see someone else out there, so shoot me.

Jarv....:shoot2:

Ask and ye shall recieve. LOL

 

[Ashwynn]

Wow, did you even read my post.

Drew has a lot of positive stats and a lot of negatives ones.

He threw for a lot of TD's and Yards. He was sacked alot, gave up too many fumbles and had some bad INT's.


To me, the negative outweigh the postive.

By the way, my Dr. did check my gut, besides it being larger than it should be, everything else is fine

I've been a fan since 1971, rarely ever miss a game. I root for whatever QB we have on the field. the only difference between you and I is that now that the season is over I would rather see another QB play for us.

if Bledsoe is the QB next year I'll root for him again. IMHO I would rather see see someone else out there, so shoot me.

Awesome, glad thats all good. I was worried, there is a condition that is you lef persist will turn a Cowboy fan into a Skins fan, Did not want to lose you to that dreaded disease.

We gunna have to agree to disagree, I say the opposite, the positives with Drew outweigh the negitive and certainly beats the alternatives at this point in time. With the offseason, who knows what options are out there. I am not married to Drew, I just like him this year as my QB, if we can do better, I am all for that. I just dont understand crying about a guy thats been as good as Bledsoe has been this year. Thats my whole point of contention.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

All this talk about Bledsoe coming back is kind of funny. Have we just fell into the trap of changing QBs every season? Carter was our last QB since Troy to play two seasons in a row, Ide like to see Bledsoe get two seasons, with a better o line and some cohesivness. Changing QBs every season isnt a good thing either.lol

 

[Ashwynn]

All this talk about Bledsoe coming back is kind of funny. Have we just fell into the trap of changing QBs every season? Carter was our last QB since Troy to play two seasons in a row, Ide like to see Bledsoe get two seasons, with a better o line and some cohesivness. Changing QBs every season isnt a good thing either.lol

Right you are Dave. Nothing but the truth here. I agree with it all.


See what you did Ice.....you made me fall into this trap with you. Bad Ice.....

 

[iceberg]

So why not treat the real problem, which is no depth along the Oline, and pathetic run blocking. We've seen what Drew can do with protection. Maybe Henson's the future. Just because we haven't seen him doesn't make it untrue. If not, I think the Cowboys have as good a chance as anyone next year with Bledsoe, and hopefully we'll become aware of someone stepping up as to plans for the future.

because history shows that what we got was drew. average every day drew. would it have made a difference w/protection?

maybe. you'd think so.

but i've seen drew bounce passes when no one is around and lob int's with the same rush in his face. in the end for WHATEVER reason drew tends to be worse in the 2nd half of the year. sure you can "excuse" this last year, but now what about all the others? "i don't care" is kinda a bad answer.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Right you are Dave. Nothing but the truth here. I agree with it all.


See what you did Ice.....you made me fall into this trap with you. Bad Ice.....

Ice just cant get out of those Henson underroos.

Just kiddin Icey ya big lugg.

 

[jterrell]

Really...again you are being dishonest with me and yourself...

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45149&page=9&pp=15

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zaxor
This team seems to be pretty old at QB, WR, OG, that is 5 positions... do you believe we will see a change next year in any of those 5 positions? if so who? Do you believe any of those people in those positions will be getting better next year? if so who? Do you see any realistic contingency plans for those 5 positions? If so who?



QB. We have 33 year old Bledsoe. Then Romo and Henson both kids with no experience. How much younger should we get? Should we draft an 8th grader as the 3rd guy to make you feel better or perhaps sign Harrignton to start and cut Bledsoe?

WR. We have old Keyshawn and old Terry both catching 60 plus balls and getting 700 or more receiving yards then a young TE and Crayton/Copper finishing off WR. You wanna trade off DeMarcus Ware and Marcus Spears for Mike Williams at WR?

OG. Old Hall of Famer Larry Allen and middle career Rivera start. After them is Andre Gurode and 2nd year guy Peterman.They are followed by rookies.

What, do you suggest the team start all rookies?
Honestly man some of this criticism borders on insanely unintelligent.

We are starting a rookie RT, a young center, young fullback, a young TE, a rookie OLB, 2nd year ILB, 3rd year ILB, 2nd year FS, 3rd year CB.

You can't draft a whole friggin team in one off-season or even three.

Name me one team who has all of these positions taken car of for years down the line?

Basically get real dude this is 2005/6 not 1992.




That is one of many do I need to go pull others?

Zax.
You do see the part in bold where it says "some of the criticism" right?
Where does this say Zaxor is insane, moronic or whatever?

Do you think saying Bledsoe being better than Montana is insane? Does that mean you are calling anyone who believes that insane? You can insult an argument/belief without insulting the person.

You see how you say I am being dishonest. That is directed squarely at me, not at an argument. Saying you are arguing illogically in attacks on Bledsoe is insulting your argument or opinion.

There is a difference there.

 

[Nors]

Those that don't see something is Drastically wrong with our O-line are not watching the games.

Thats our #1 mission in offseason and cleaning house is in order. No run bloccking and no pass protection?

Bledsoe exceeded all realistic expectations in hostile environment.

 

[Ashwynn]

because history shows that what we got was drew. average every day drew. would it have made a difference w/protection?

maybe. you'd think so.

but i've seen drew bounce passes when no one is around and lob int's with the same rush in his face. in the end for WHATEVER reason drew tends to be worse in the 2nd half of the year. sure you can "excuse" this last year, but now what about all the others? "i don't care" is kinda a bad answer.

Well see for sure next year Ice. Now quit being bad and making ppla fall in this trap - lol.

 

[superpunk]

because history shows that what we got was drew. average every day drew. would it have made a difference w/protection?

maybe. you'd think so.

but i've seen drew bounce passes when no one is around and lob int's with the same rush in his face. in the end for WHATEVER reason drew tends to be worse in the 2nd half of the year. sure you can "excuse" this last year, but now what about all the others? "i don't care" is kinda a bad answer.

You're right, "I don't care" is a bad answer. More accurately, it's irrelevant. Sure, you could make the generalization that this is what happens with Bledsoe EVERY year, but sweeping generalizations like that have a way of being way wrong. I saw what Bledsoe could do on this team with decent protection, and I liked what I saw. Regardless of what happened before, I liked it. And I believe he can do it again, and hopefully the rest of the team holds their end up.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Bledsoe exceeded all realistic expectations in hostile environment.

Agreed.

I made the same excuse for Quincy Carter.

I MUST give Bledsoe that same courtesy.

 

[Ashwynn]

Agreed.

I made the same excuse for Quincy Carter.

I MUST give Bledsoe that same courtesy.

OMG, I doubled over with laughter, my kids thought I was going nuts.

Now that was funny. Hope it was meant to be.

 

[Trip]

Those that don't see something is Drastically wrong with our O-line are not watching the games.

Thats our #1 mission in offseason and cleaning house is in order. No run bloccking and no pass protection?

Bledsoe exceeded all realistic expectations in hostile environment.

Exceeded all realistic expectations?

He was exactly what most of us said he'd be.

Not saying I want him gone, or that our offensive line doesn't suck, but if he exceeded your expectations then you must not really think he's the HOF QB you've said he is many times.

"Get your expectations up" so says our coach.

 

[iceberg]

You're right, "I don't care" is a bad answer. More accurately, it's irrelevant. Sure, you could make the generalization that this is what happens with Bledsoe EVERY year, but sweeping generalizations like that have a way of being way wrong. I saw what Bledsoe could do on this team with decent protection, and I liked what I saw. Regardless of what happened before, I liked it. And I believe he can do it again, and hopefully the rest of the team holds their end up.

which is why i HAVE SAID that he COULD do it. he really could. but based on historical evidence i'd be putting $ against it happening MUCH MORE than i would for it to happen.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Bledsoe was number two at being sacked, only behind Carr. Ide say our O line played a huge part in Bledsoes season decline. No matter his history.

 

[jterrell]

Bingo Sarge!!

Until we find our QB of the future we will remain an also-ran. We might as well face it, Bledsoe is what he is. An older, inconsistent QB, who is light years better than Quincy, Chad and Vinny, but not the ultimate answer to our need at the QB position.

Thats like refusing to answer an esay question because you don't remember the exact wording of the correct response instead of trying for some credit.

How many teams have an "ultimate answer" at QB?
Should those teams just not bother to field a team?

How many of the 12 playoff teams have the "ultimate answer" at QB?
When Tampa won the SB did they have the ultimate answer?
Did the Ravens?

When you get that answer how long does it last?
Does it mean you win a SB?

 

[iceberg]

Those that don't see something is Drastically wrong with our O-line are not watching the games.

Thats our #1 mission in offseason and cleaning house is in order. No run bloccking and no pass protection?

Bledsoe exceeded all realistic expectations in hostile environment.

and the last 5 of PARCELLS olinemen he's brought in gives me confidence the sweeping changes will be better this time. besides, normally when you "clean house" and start over, it takes time for the OL to gel to a SOLID TOP FLIGHT ol needed for drew.

and we ain't got a lot of time for that to happen. so overall - FOR THIS TO WORK we're gonna be counting on luck a lot more than normal.

 

[iceberg]

Bledsoe was number two at being sacked, only behind Carr. Ide say our O line played a huge part in Bledsoes season decline. No matter his history.

i'd say the same thing, nc.

i just don't know what to say about all the other years. is it ALWAYS someone elses fault?