CZ POLL Would you want Kellen Moore hired as head coach if he were to leave after the season?

Would you want Kellen Moore hired as head coach if he were to leave after the season?


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America's Cowboy

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Jerry needs to do everything to keep both MM and KM.

Make KM 2nd assistant head coach, and increase his pay a little more once again. Promise KM that he is the Cowboys future head coach-in-training.

Jerry needs to keep these core coaches intact: McCarthy, Moore and Quinn.
 

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No, the poll asked if Moore was offered a HC spot, should the Cowboys fire MM and hire Moore as HC.
"Would you want Kellen Moore hired as head coach if he were to leave after the season?" I don't think this stipulates firing MM, right?
 

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"Would you want Kellen Moore hired as head coach if he were to leave after the season?" I don't think this stipulates firing MM, right?

Yes, but read the first post, which sets the terms of the question:

"If after the season, Kellen Moore receives a head coach (NFL or college) offer that he plans to accept, would you want to fire Mike McCarthy and hire Kellen Moore as the Dallas Cowboys head coach or would you keep Mike McCarthy and let Kellen Moore leave?"
 

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Yes, but read the first post, which sets the terms of the question:

"If after the season, Kellen Moore receives a head coach (NFL or college) offer that he plans to accept, would you want to fire Mike McCarthy and hire Kellen Moore as the Dallas Cowboys head coach or would you keep Mike McCarthy and let Kellen Moore leave?"
Sorry, I only read the actual poll question.
 

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I think Moore’s going to be a really good coach in the NFL for a really long time.

McCarthy is just a good coach.

I’d roll the dice on Moore because he’s uniquely good at something that’s very hard to find. Even knowing how steep a learning curve he’s still got to climb. It wasn’t long ago people used the same argument for him to not be elevated to OC, and I think that transition was actually riskier than HC would be.

That said, it’s a great point that Dallas isn’t a good place for a first time HC. We went through it with Campo and Garrett both, and Jerry was a handful both times. They’d need to commit to developing KM properly if they do it. And we’d need Quinn on board snd committed to the program. I’m not sure how realistic that would be.
On topic, I would roll the dice on Moore if the Cowboys are one and done in the playoffs. If they make it to the NFC championship game or Super Bowl and just get beat by a better team, you almost can't make that move.

Off topic, how have you been @Idgit? I haven't seen you around much. I hope all is well and I miss your posts on the CZ.
 

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BigMac and Brandon Staley are co-favorites to win Coach of the Year.
BigMac has 3 years left on his contract after this year.
I have to factor that in.

So do I fire the Coach of the Year and pay him 3 years for not coaching on a wing and a prayer that the youngster is ready?
Hmmmm......

Big Mac stays and I make deal with the kid he can't refuse.

Of course the question reads:
Would you want Kellen Moore hired as head coach if he were to leave after the season?

In that case, if Moore were leaving after this season, I'd certainly want it to be for a HC position (in the AFC).
 

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On topic, I would roll the dice on Moore if the Cowboys are one and done in the playoffs. If they make it to the NFC championship game or Super Bowl and just get beat by a better team, you almost can't make that move.

Off topic, how have you been @Idgit? I haven't seen you around much. I hope all is well and I miss your posts on the CZ.

I agree about making a change if the team has a Super Bowl appearance. I might still want to do it, but it wouldn’t happen.

I’ve been great. Last season was just a really hard one to watch. I was here regularly but didn’t engage nearly as much.

I have a really hard time enjoying things that are supposed to be escapes from reality when the story becomes something other than the sport. It’s the same for me with movies snd music. That’s not a commentary on either side of the social issues. It just makes sports a lot less fun in general. Throw in the anemic crowds, and an underperforming team, and there’s not a lot I wanted to debate, honestly.

This year had been much Moore fun, obviously.
 

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Nope, I believe playoff experience is a must to be HC in the NFL. That being said he has done a hella of a job and should build his resume here a couple of more years....
 

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If your best rainmaker takes all his accounts on his way out where does that leave the CEO who was on the street before lucking out with said rainmaker?

Best companies know how to identify AND retain/promote their up and coming talent.

Especially if your successful product is dependent on that talent.
Agree but you don't make the rainmaker the CEO, lol... agree make him assistance head coach and call it a day...
 

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I agree about making a change if the team has a Super Bowl appearance. I might still want to do it, but it wouldn’t happen.

I’ve been great. Last season was just a really hard one to watch. I was here regularly but didn’t engage nearly as much.

I have a really hard time enjoying things that are supposed to be escapes from reality when the story becomes something other than the sport. It’s the same for me with movies snd music. That’s not a commentary on either side of the social issues. It just makes sports a lot less fun in general. Throw in the anemic crowds, and an underperforming team, and there’s not a lot I wanted to debate, honestly.

This year had been much Moore fun, obviously.
I know exactly what you are talking about and yes, last season was brutal. I'm glad to see you on here man and I always appreciate your takes on the team. Let's toast to a hopefully better outcome this year - in many, many ways.
 

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Thanks for the championship, Mike.

Now, GET LOST!!!!

......Just doesn't seem right.

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There is something to be said about experience. And this isn't relevant just to football. MM won a SB and went to multiple NFCC games as the HC.
Being a HC is not the same as being a coordinator. How many of Patriots ex-coordinators had success as HC? None.
 

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I know exactly what you are talking about and yes, last season was brutal. I'm glad to see you on here man and I always appreciate your takes on the team. Let's toast to a hopefully better outcome this year - in many, many ways.

Skoal! And right back at you.

These seasons where the team is contending are gold. There’s no point not enjoying every minute of them.
 

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How do you replace a guy who’s headed for the NFC East crown and hopefully home field for a few playoff struggles heck let’s say NFC championship against the Rams then who knows ….

No if Kellen is offered the Bears job after they disappoint again Moore will be off to Chicago to groom a talented young QB
 

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What I wonder with Kellen Moore is if he has the leadership style to command a locker room and run the whole operation? Sure he appears to be a smart play caller, but there's a quiet energy there that I'm not sure how it translate yet.

Regardless he deserves a head coaching gig at some point based on the offenses production. However, I'm not sold yet that the timing is right for that step just yet. If I'm Moore I'm selective on that opportunity, wanting to see offensive talent in place and assurance I'm not inheriting a declining team. Otherwise he's taking a step back in a few years, likely with another new organization.
 

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If he leaves then all he wants to be is head coach and nothing more.

Jerry with throw him coaching pay to stay.

But I don't think he will be a good coach. I just don't think he is ready.

Besides, he is in a perfect position to succeed as an top notch OC. Credit is due to McCarthy more than Kellen.
 

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Agree but you don't make the rainmaker the CEO, lol... agree make him assistance head coach and call it a day...

In a law firm the rainmaker is made partner.

In big companies you promote the rainmaker.

Darwinism.
 
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