WR Matt Jones getting close to being released?

[Disturbed]

Well the board will come alive with posts "for" and "against" the Cowboys taking a look at Matt if he is released. I would think Matt would be excited to get out of Jacksonville, get a fresh start somewhere else, and possibly with a winning team with less pressure on him.

There will be a lot of teams interested in looking at Matt, and that includes the NFL East. For all of you against Matt, I hope he does not sign with one of our division rivals and starts playing up to his potential. He would be hard to stop given his size and speed.

 

[Stash]

Well the board will come alive with posts "for" and "against" the Cowboys taking a look at Matt if he is released. I would think Matt would be excited to get out of Jacksonville, get a fresh start somewhere else, and possibly with a winning team with less pressure on him.

I think the potential rewards far outweigh any risks involved. I'd love to see what Sherman and Garrett could do with a guy with Jones' physical talents.

There will be a lot of teams interested in looking at Matt, and that includes the NFL East. For all of you against Matt, I hope he does not sign with one of our division rivals and starts playing up to his potential. He would be hard to stop given his size and speed.

Yeah, it will take a draft pick if Dallas is interested.

No way he would make it to Dallas via waivers.

A 6th round pick would be nothing to make it happen.

 

[Doomsday101]

I think the potential rewards far outweigh any risks involved. I'd love to see what Sherman and Garrett could do with a guy with Jones' physical talents.



Yeah, it will take a draft pick if Dallas is interested.

No way he would make it to Dallas via waivers.

A 6th round pick would be nothing to make it happen.

I would not give up picks for players who are about to be released. He is not that good to be throwing draft picks away and who is to say there will not be better prospect that Matt Jones.

 

[Stash]

I would not give up picks for players who are about to be released. He is not that good to be throwing draft picks away and who is to say there will not be better prospect that Matt Jones.

A 6th round draft pick?

To ensure you're getting a player you're interested in?

That's nothing.

Did you raise the same fuss when a complete unknown Erik Walden who may not even make the team was drafted in the 6th round?

I doubt it.

This team has several extra picks for next year already, with more compensatory picks to ccome.

If they have interest, I think it would be foolish not to use one to get a player they wanted to help them this year.

 

[Doomsday101]

A 6th round draft pick?

To ensure you're getting a player you're interested in?

That's nothing.

Did you raise the same fuss when a complete unknown Erik Walden who may not even make the team was drafted in the 6th round?

I doubt it.

This team has several extra picks for next year already, with more compensatory picks to ccome.

If they have interest, I think it would be foolish not to use one to get a player they wanted to help them this year.

Who said Dallas was interested? Right now every time a player gets cut the rumor mill starts up about that player coming to Dallas. He is not that good if he was he would not be getting released from a team whose WR's are not that good to begin with. I don't mind picking up players who are released I think it is stupid giving up players while doing it. Sorry I think you are making him out to be better than he is

 

[Disturbed]

I agree with Stash....go get Matt if your interested at all in him. The downside is minimal....of course he would have to renegotiate his contract, no first round money any more.

Even if all Matt does is make the WR position more competitive and push everyone in the offseason, it would be worth it. And if he earns a roster spot, then great - even better.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

I think the potential rewards far outweigh any risks involved. I'd love to see what Sherman and Garrett could do with a guy with Jones' physical talents.



Yeah, it will take a draft pick if Dallas is interested.

No way he would make it to Dallas via waivers.

A 6th round pick would be nothing to make it happen.

He wouldn't have to go through the waiver process, he can make the best deal for himself if he is released and becomes a free agent. Furthemore, if we trade for him, we would have to take the rest of his contract.

I would wait for him to get cut and try to bring him in to compete for the last WR spot on the roster. He would have to learn to play special teams to make the team. I just don't think that he can go from being cut from a poor WR team to being anything more than the last WR on our roster.

 

[DFWJC]

I just don't think that he can go from being cut from a poor WR team to being anything more than the last WR on our roster.

After TO--which is huge--I'm not so sure Jax's updated WRs corp is worse than what we have here. They are so young and seem to be on a sharp growth curve...due to youth and improved QB play. But they have nothing like TO.

 

[Idgit]

I think the potential rewards far outweigh any risks involved. I'd love to see what Sherman and Garrett could do with a guy with Jones' physical talents.



Yeah, it will take a draft pick if Dallas is interested.

No way he would make it to Dallas via waivers.

A 6th round pick would be nothing to make it happen.

He'll make it through waivers. Most of us would be happy to see him here for a tryout. It'd be dumb to give up a 6 for him, though. 6s are valuable picks.

And the Williamson comparison is perfectly relevant. If Jones gets beat out by an unqualified first round bust in TW's first Jax TC, in the same system, on an even playing field, Jax is establishing the ceiling for MJ's value right there. If MJ is not definitively better than the players we have in equivalent slots on our own roster, why in the world would you give up a pick to bring him here?

 

[Velvet Jones]

I agree with Stash....go get Matt if your interested at all in him.

That is the key, though. Who says we are interested? Stash is interested but I haven't read it anyplace else. No Mick blog talking about it. No ESPN half hour debate about it. Nothing, really. Just that he is a bum that is hanging by a string right now.

No one is saying don't take a look. Most seem to be saying that he is a ? and we already have ?'s on the team. How does it help to have just another ? on the team? And to trade for him to boot??

Although I do admire Stash's passion. Lol.

 

[Stash]

Who said Dallas was interested? Right now every time a player gets cut the rumor mill starts up about that player coming to Dallas. He is not that good if he was he would not be getting released from a team whose WR's are not that good to begin with. I don't mind picking up players who are released I think it is stupid giving up players while doing it. Sorry I think you are making him out to be better than he is

His numbers say that he would be the third best option on this team.

That says 'good enough' to be an improvement to me.

To me, that's worth a 6th round draft pick.

 

[Stash]

I agree with Stash....go get Matt if your interested at all in him. The downside is minimal....of course he would have to renegotiate his contract, no first round money any more.

Actually, his 'first round money' is only $625,000 - a pittance really. He got his money from Jacksonville already.

Even if all Matt does is make the WR position more competitive and push everyone in the offseason, it would be worth it. And if he earns a roster spot, then great - even better.

And - worst case - if he somehow didn't - a 6th round pick would be nothing to find out.

 

[Doomsday101]

His numbers say that he would be the third best option on this team.

That says 'good enough' to be an improvement to me.

To me, that's worth a 6th round draft pick.

On a team that has poor WR's and he was the 3rd best of the worst? I would not give up picks for him and I think you will see other named WR being released as teams have to cut down their roster and players get caught between the numbers game and the cap. If Matt Jones ends up coming here then great but no I would not give up a pick for him.

 

[Velvet Jones]

His numbers say that he would be the third best option on this team.

That says 'good enough' to be an improvement to me.

To me, that's worth a 6th round draft pick.

To me, that says he can beat out Hurd and/or Austin. Pretty small feat to deserve a 6th.

 

[Stash]

He'll make it through waivers. Most of us would be happy to see him here for a tryout. It'd be dumb to give up a 6 for him, though. 6s are valuable picks.

I'll respectfully disagree. Too many teams with wide receiver issues for him to get to Dallas. A 6th rounder is nothing in my opinion. Again, the Cowboys used one on Walden who would have gone undrafted - nobody complained about that.

And the Williamson comparison is perfectly relevant. If Jones gets beat out by an unqualified first round bust in TW's first Jax TC, in the same system, on an even playing field, Jax is establishing the ceiling for MJ's value right there. If MJ is not definitively better than the players we have in equivalent slots on our own roster, why in the world would you give up a pick to bring him here?

I would say that it's possible that some players are poor fits with one team for various reasons. Williamson succeeding would illustrate that point too.

I seem to recall that everyone said that Williamson was 'worthless garbage' when Jacksonville made that trade too.

 

[Stash]

That is the key, though. Who says we are interested? Stash is interested but I haven't read it anyplace else. No Mick blog talking about it. No ESPN half hour debate about it. Nothing, really. Just that he is a bum that is hanging by a string right now.

Two items that Gryphon previously posted give clues that they might be.

One made reference to Jerry Jones comments on Matt Jones' workouts in 2005 so we know that he was 'on the radar' at some point.

And the Sporting News blurb listed Dallas as one of the teams possibly interested.

But take those for what theyr're worth.

The team may in fact have no interest.

Just because I think it's a great idea doesn't mean they do.

No one is saying don't take a look. Most seem to be saying that he is a ? and we already have ?'s on the team. How does it help to have just another ? on the team? And to trade for him to boot??

Although I do admire Stash's passion. Lol.

Firstly, thanks for the compliment.

I think Jones still has some questions, but far less than Austin or Stanback who are essentially complete unknowns.

Does Jones have room for improvement? You bet. Hopefully a lot. But I think he's a lot more of a sure thing even at this point than most of what the Cowboys currently have.

 

[Stash]

To me, that says he can beat out Hurd and/or Austin. Pretty small feat to deserve a 6th.

Why?

What exactly does a 6th rounder buy you?

Erik Walden?

I think it also says he can beat out Stanback who cost the team a 4th rounder and to this point, hasn't shown anything at all.

 

[Doomsday101]

Why?

What exactly does a 6th rounder buy you?

Erik Walden?

I think it also says he can beat out Stanback who cost the team a 4th rounder and to this point, hasn't shown anything at all.

Walden has not played a single down in the NFL no one knows what he will or will not do. Jones has been in the NFL and has not done much to impress anyone if he had he would not be on his way out in Jacksonville. So using Walden for your arguement seem to be a bit of a reach. I think we will see other named WR looking for jobs before all is said and done so I don't think we need to give up picks for players who are getting released.

 

[Stash]

Walden has not played a single down in the NFL no one knows what he will or will not do. Jones has been in the NFL and has not done much to impress anyone if he had he would not be on his way out in Jacksonville. So using Walden for your arguement seem to be a bit of a reach.

If you'd prefer, I could use Stanback who was a 4th rounder and has a flat line for a stat line.

Fact is that nobody knows if Walden will even make this team, but nobody's complaining about a potentially wasted 6th round draft pick.

Again, I guess it depends on your idea of impressing. He did lead the Jaguars in receiving in 2006, despite starting a handful of games.

And he's had more initial success than Alvin Harper did when he was a Cowboy.

I think we will see other named WR looking for jobs before all is said and done so I don't think we need to give up picks for players who are getting released.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

You can speculate about players being available but that's all it is - speculation.

If you passed on this opportunity, you can't count on getting another one.

 

[iceberg]

Why?

What exactly does a 6th rounder buy you?

Erik Walden?

I think it also says he can beat out Stanback who cost the team a 4th rounder and to this point, hasn't shown anything at all.

stash - i hope you know i try to give you full credit for your arguments and how you've handled them. but again this to me is showing a "jones bias" and dismissing the others to "reduce competition" for your bias.

no stanback has not shown anything. how could he? he was drafted injured as a prospect and by all accounts he's showing why *this* year when he couldn't last year.

step back for a bit - is the jones to stanback comparison valid? fair? it's one thing to say he can compete with those players, it's another to say stanback has shown nothing.