WVU, how good are they?

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I'd like to see KSU against WVU. KSU is one of the few teams that doesn't try to outscore everyone with the uptempo offense and constant passing. Snyder will try to just methodically eat clock and wear down WVU's defense, limiting their possessions. It might just work.
 

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TheCoolFan;4758342 said:
I think Texas will beat WVU next week. WVU isn't a big running team and that's been Texas' weakness on defense.

UT isn't ready for the uptempo stuff WVU runs(they were gassed tonight versus OSU). That will wear out their DL especially. UT is still a year away and probably are over-rated right now. They have a lot of talent but much of it is really young.


KSU and Tech should give WVU interesting games but I suspect WVU wins them all this year including the last one for a NC. Tech has a Baylor-like offensive system and WR corps but a much better than Baylor defense. KSU can shorten a game versus anyone but I still suspect given one drive if you give my any two players I am taking Geno Smith and Tavon Austin.

WVU can pass the ball on any team in the team in the country.
They have enough WRs to spread people out and get match ups they like.
They can run the ball, especially with Smith/Austin, if that is needed.

We'll find out more next week.
 

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Sam I Am;4758179 said:
lol, wut? They had some self inflicted turnover issues in "a" game this season. You are so angry about your Big 12 departure. Face it, A&M made a HUGE mistake and will forever be pond scum in the SEC.

The Big 12 is flourishing right now with six top 25 teams and you're pissed A&M is an unranked SEC bottom feeder.

TCU just struggled to beat SMU by a single score, a team A&M beat by 7 touchdowns. This after struggling against Kansas two weeks ago and looking mediocre against a bad Virginia team who just lost to a mid-major at home. They simply arent very good and will lose to Texas, Baylor, WVU, K-State and OU at a minimum.

I'm not angry about the departure at all. We just won an SEC game by 48 points, something Texas fans said would NEVER happen, let alone this year.
 
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Sam I Am;4758183 said:
Gotta say, WVU showed that they aren't title contenders this year. To win it all, you have to have some form of defense. That should have been a fun game to watch though.

Lol this isn't the NFL. This is College Football where clearly they don't preach defense. You can win if you have a superhuman offense like WYU.
 

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Sam I Am;4758183 said:
Gotta say, WVU showed that they aren't title contenders this year. To win it all, you have to have some form of defense. That should have been a fun game to watch though.

This is college football, you don't need much defense when your offense has the ability to drop 70 on literally anyone they play.

WVU's defense can't possibly play any worse, and against maybe the second best offense in terms of production in the conference no less, and still won. Outside of Texas and KSU, nobody in the Big XII plays good defense.

No, they probably won't win the National Title because they'd have to beat someone like Bama, but they can definitely win the Big XII and win a BCS game. If they get by Texas next week, it's theirs to lose.
 

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The30YardSlant;4758440 said:
TCU just struggled to beat SMU by a single score, a team A&M beat by 7 touchdowns. This after struggling against Kansas two weeks ago and looking mediocre against a bad Virginia team who just lost to a mid-major at home. They simply arent very good and will lose to Texas, Baylor, WVU, K-State and OU at a minimum.

I'm not angry about the departure at all. We just won an SEC game by 48 points, something Texas fans said would NEVER happen, let alone this year.

I struggle to define how good TCU is to be honest. They actually play defense and run the ball so games are close by nature. All that said they can pass when needed and generally are a quality team.

You can't gauge a single thing by last night. That was a rivalry game and was played in a downpour.

TCU has been markedly better than TAMU for the past decade. How they match up this year is debateable.

TAMU beating ARK means really nothing. ARK lost two OOC games versus spares and now 1-4. This is the worst ARK has played probably since they joined the SEC.

TAMU actually has gotten UPGRADED QB/WR play out of Manziel/Evans. That has been the difference for them this year. The coachign change also looks to be a big plus; (especially IN RECRUITING). All that said they've played as terrible a schedule as Texas Tech. Not their fault that ARK is this bad (or that LaTech got postponed), but they are all the same. They've played 1 top 50 team thus far and lost.

I will give you this. No one expected the SEC to be this soft this year. All the Big 12 schools face an actually tougher schedule. Only 3 top 20 teams on the schedule. They should make a very solid bowl game as the 3rd place finisher in the SEC West and finish ranked in the top 25.
 

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jterrell;4758648 said:
I struggle to define how good TCU is to be honest. They actually play defense and run the ball so games are close by nature. All that said they can pass when needed and generally are a quality team.

You can't gauge a single thing by last night. That was a rivalry game and was played in a downpour.

The thing is, they havent played a single team who is going to win more than 4-5 games and have looked average to poor against three of them. I just don't see how they beat anyone in the top half of the Big XII the way they have been looking.

TCU has been markedly better than TAMU for the past decade. How they match up this year is debateable.

I don't think it's close this year, simply based on similar competition. A&M crushed SMU 48-3 and crushed a bad BCS conference team 58-10 who is comparable to Virginia and Kansas. A&M's offense is miles ahead of TCU's.

TAMU beating ARK means really nothing. ARK lost two OOC games versus spares and now 1-4. This is the worst ARK has played probably since they joined the SEC.

It doesnt mean much at all, but it did get the "you cant win an SEC game" monkey off our back.


I will give you this. No one expected the SEC to be this soft this year. All the Big 12 schools face an actually tougher schedule. Only 3 top 20 teams on the schedule. They should make a very solid bowl game as the 3rd place finisher in the SEC West and finish ranked in the top 25.

A&M still has a harder SOS than anyone in the Big XII statistically. Playing three teams in the top 10, including two of the top three, as well as MSU will do that.
 

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amazing what a motorcycle wreck can do to a major college football program.
 

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jimmy40;4758753 said:
amazing what a motorcycle wreck can do to a major college football program.

Part of me thinks that they would have taken a big step back this year anyway, their lines are awful. Petrino spent way too much time recruiting skill position talent and let the offensive and defensive lines go to ruin. Now they can't block anybody and they generate no pressure of their own.
 

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Geno Smith is the Heisman front runner and WVU is a contender for their new conference in the wide open and highly competitive Big 12, it's fun.
 

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The30YardSlant;4758858 said:
Part of me thinks that they would have taken a big step back this year anyway, their lines are awful. Petrino spent way too much time recruiting skill position talent and let the offensive and defensive lines go to ruin. Now they can't block anybody and they generate no pressure of their own.
he was one of the best play callers in the country and I don't think the players would have quit on their season if he was still there.
 

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TheCoolFan;4758342 said:
I think Texas will beat WVU next week. WVU isn't a big running team and that's been Texas' weakness on defense.

I can understand someone thinking that, if the Baylor game was the only time you've seen WV play.

But Shawn Alston (5'11", 236) has had to sit out two games with thigh injury, .. they can run with him, trust me.

He is a stud, and his attitude is that he is unstoppable. He is probably not as good as he thinks he is, but his "kick-butt" attitude makes him better than he really is, ... if that makes sense. He only knows one direction, straight over you.

Passing and running is not the problem, stopping the pass and run is. :rolleyes:
 

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WV Cowboy;4759322 said:
I can understand someone thinking that, if the Baylor game was the only time you've seen WV play.

But Shawn Alston (5'11", 236) has had to sit out two games with thigh injury, .. they can run with him, trust me.

He is a stud, and his attitude is that he is unstoppable. He is probably not as good as he thinks he is, but his "kick-butt" attitude makes him better than he really is, ... if that makes sense. He only knows one direction, straight over you.

Passing and running is not the problem, stopping the pass and run is. :rolleyes:

Coach doesn't call him Shawne ALSTOTT for no reason. If he's healthy Texas is gonna have a tough time stopping the thunder (Alston) & the Lightning (Buie & Garrison).
Biggest problem for WV is gonna be getting stops on D. They've got to do a better job of getting of the field, these DBacks look like they've been to the Dave Campo passing academy.
 

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jimmy40;4759015 said:
he was one of the best play callers in the country and I don't think the players would have quit on their season if he was still there.

Yep. And it didn't help them that their QB, one of the better college QBs in the country, got knocked out for a few games, too. They'd have beaten La Monroe with him and the Bama game wouldn't have been 70-0. After that they had tons of bad mojo that is hard to overcome.
 

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Looking foward to this weekends game vs WVU. This is a good test for the Horns
 

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Doomsday101;4760338 said:
Looking foward to this weekends game vs WVU. This is a good test for the Horns

The Mountaineers will be on the road, on their first Big 12 road trip, .. at Texas!

I think they are the ones being tested.

Looking forward to it too!
 

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WV Cowboy;4760495 said:
The Mountaineers will be on the road, on their first Big 12 road trip, .. at Texas!

I think they are the ones being tested.

Looking forward to it too!

I think it is a good test for both teams. I'm looking forward to it as well.
 

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Well, I no everybody is hoping that WV doesn't drop 70 on them but I have to say, I am not so sure that WV matches up that well with Texas. I have no doubt that WV can play offense but they are small up front. I think Texas might be able to control clock and run the football against WV. We will see but I think that could happen. WV reminds me of Tech a few years back.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;4760746 said:
Well, I no everybody is hoping that WV doesn't drop 70 on them but I have to say, I am not so sure that WV matches up that well with Texas. I have no doubt that WV can play offense but they are small up front. I think Texas might be able to control clock and run the football against WV. We will see but I think that could happen. WV reminds me of Tech a few years back.

They are much like the good Tech teams.

UT isn't stopping Geno Smith but they can certainly control the clock and run. The issue will be does UT make mistakes or not with their young skill position players. Any mistake becomes a quick 7 for WVU.

I don't like the match up at all for Texas. Next year is the year for UT. They had to sort through some busted recruiting and get in some better coaching. Tons of talent they are young.
 
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