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Phoenix said:
Ironically, one of my favorite finishing moves from then has been since banned due to the originator being a Very Bad Person. I'll leave it at that, since it is one of those He Whose Name Shall Not Be Mentioned.
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Who is that?
 
big dog cowboy said:
He isn't a good wrestler. Just like Hulk Hogan he has about 5 moves and IMO his Attitude Adjustment finisher is WEAK.
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The difference between him and Hogan however is that Hogan litterally was only good at 5 moves.

I've Cena go when he's not confined in this character type and he actually is a solid wrestler. Obviously he's absolutely no Bret Hart or HBK or Arn Anderson or anything like that but he's a darn good wrestler if he's allowed to be.
 
Phoenix said:
Yep. If he wasn't part of that era then he certainly was on the fringe of it...
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Benoit came along in the 90's and got serious traction after he went to ECW and developed the Crippler gimmick. Which, interestingly enough, came to him completely by accident. Heyman decided to book him that way, and push him that way, after he dumped Sabu on his head, and messed up his neck, on accident in a match.

That was all 90's stuff though.
 
I just watched RAW from last night. I didn't think it was that good. I love that Jericho guy. He has the best entrance of all the ones I've seen.

I saw the CM Punk ads. He like tats huh?
 
BoysFan4ever said:
I just watched RAW from last night. I didn't think it was that good. I love that Jericho guy. He has the best entrance of all the ones I've seen.

I saw the CM Punk ads. He like tats huh?
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A couple of tips about Raw. The worst Raw of the month is the one before the PPV. All they are doing is setting the table and rehashing the matchups to get increase the PPV buy rate. Nothing new reallly comes from them unless it's a last minute match that has been added and those are usually B list talents anyway. The best Raw is the one after the PPV. The same concepts apply to Smackdown as well. Jericho has a good intro but his old one from years ago is still far better IMO. It still irks me he is leaving in September but I know he isn't interested in WWE full time.

Punk does like his tats. I wish I could watch his special on the WWE Network tonight. I've been a big Punk fan since he first arrived.
 
Okay I guess the crossface is not banned permanently. It may have been for a while after the incident but apparently CM Punk actually used this move at Night of Champions a few years back. Rarely seen though, that's for sure.
 
big dog cowboy said:
A couple of tips about Raw. The worst Raw of the month is the one before the PPV. All they are doing is setting the table and rehashing the matchups to get increase the PPV buy rate. Nothing new reallly comes from them unless it's a last minute match that has been added and those are usually B list talents anyway. The best Raw is the one after the PPV. The same concepts apply to Smackdown as well. Jericho has a good intro but his old one from years ago is still far better IMO. It still irks me he is leaving in September but I know he isn't interested in WWE full time.

Punk does like his tats. I wish I could watch his special on the WWE Network tonight. I've been a big Punk fan since he first arrived.
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I just dvr it & watch what I think might be good. I won't watch the girls for instance. I have learned not to watch Cena talk. I skipped over that old blonde headed guy whoever he was.

I love Jericho's entrance. That jacket is massively cool. And I like him talking. He's got a ton of charisma.

I'm not sure I'd like Punk. I just don't know.
 
Manwiththeplan said:
Wrestler who killed his wife, autistic son and then committed suicide. Everyone assumed it was roid rage, but I think he was clean at the time, and it had more to do with dementia from concussions.
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He was far from clean. He had enough testosterone and PED's to fill the Grand Canyon.

I believe concussions played a large role, but combining that with PED use, Xanax and alcohol is a recipe for disaster.







YR
 
Yakuza Rich said:
He was far from clean. He had enough testosterone and PED's to fill the Grand Canyon.

I believe concussions played a large role, but combining that with PED use, Xanax and alcohol is a recipe for disaster.







YR
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I think everyone just assumed that it was an episode of roid rage, but after his autopsy, he wasn't on at the time. He clearly had a history and was a past user, but I *think*, he wasn't on at the time.
 
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