WWE Network

[TellerMorrow34]

Thx. I knew they were always busy but never heard of a house show.,

That's really a crazy schedule. I feel sorry for their families. Their kids in particular.

That's why if you watch a lot of documentaries on wrestlers who've been in wrestling a while then you'll find a ton of stories of families that aren't together, marriages that crumble, etc.

Ric Flair, Jake "The Snake", Dusty Rhodes, Steve Austin, John Cena the list goes on and on and on for guys who are on the road so much it destroys their family life. They're gone too much so their significant others get lonely, or they themselves more often than not give into temptations because they're all alone all the time.

It's a rough life for sure.

 

[Phoenix]

And that's partially why drug and alcohol abuse are so rampant.

I'll drink to that

 

[MichaelWinicki]

That's why if you watch a lot of documentaries on wrestlers who've been in wrestling a while then you'll find a ton of stories of families that aren't together, marriages that crumble, etc.

Ric Flair, Jake "The Snake", Dusty Rhodes, Steve Austin, John Cena the list goes on and on and on for guys who are on the road so much it destroys their family life. They're gone too much so their significant others get lonely, or they themselves more often than not give into temptations because they're all alone all the time.

It's a rough life for sure.

I've read several stories (from several sources) talking about the drinking exploits of "Andre The Giant"... Simply incredible about of alcohol he would put away each and every day... both for pain management and I guess relieve the boredom.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

I'm curious. Any of you guys answer please.

Is that Ric Flair guy a drunk? He acted weird on RAW not long ago. Like he was drunk!

I'm just wondering.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

One of Vince, and wrestling in general to be perfectly honest, biggest issues is that there is zero competition.

WWE was always, and is always, at it's absolute best when it has some sort of stiff competition that they have to go head to head with for ratings and wrestlers and everything.

TNA has never been actual competition. It's useless and ran by morons who have no clue how to run a wrestling company. Without a real company to compete with the WWE you're going to continue to see the WWE going backwards and losing money.

As far as the quality of the product, the lack of competition hurts the WWE. The same goes for the publicly traded company. The company starts to become more about trying to find ways to sell a product. And since you're dealing with Board of Directors that want to see things on a quarterly basis, the issue becomes that pro wrestling often needs to have things build up properly over time and then get the huge payoff and ride that wave for a couple of years.

As far as money goes, the WWE does better without competition. They own pretty much all of the market share of the industry. Whereas with WCW and ECW they owned far less of the market share.

Understand that much of the WWE 'struggles' are corporate, publicly traded nonsense. They are likely making as much money as they ever have...but because they don't meet 'projections' they are deemed to be 'struggling.'

As a person that has worked in the field of budgeting and forecasting, you would be surprised how un-scientific and un-mathematical these projections can be. If there's one thing I've learned is that if I'm looking for a certain raise in pay, don't take the company's word for it if they refuse that raise in pay because 'we didn't meet our numbers.' That may be the case, but their 'numbers' are often irrational and more or less a poor guesstimate. So, why should I pay for their irrationality?

Anyway...the WWE Network is a good idea...just at the price they are charging it's not feasible. But, the squeeze was being put on by the Board of Directors (corporations will blame shareholders, but the Board really runs the show) and they used a terrible pricing point. They could have probably priced it at $15 and made money on the deal.





YR

 

[TellerMorrow34]

As far as the quality of the product, the lack of competition hurts the WWE. The same goes for the publicly traded company. The company starts to become more about trying to find ways to sell a product. And since you're dealing with Board of Directors that want to see things on a quarterly basis, the issue becomes that pro wrestling often needs to have things build up properly over time and then get the huge payoff and ride that wave for a couple of years.

As far as money goes, the WWE does better without competition. They own pretty much all of the market share of the industry. Whereas with WCW and ECW they owned far less of the market share.

Understand that much of the WWE 'struggles' are corporate, publicly traded nonsense. They are likely making as much money as they ever have...but because they don't meet 'projections' they are deemed to be 'struggling.'

As a person that has worked in the field of budgeting and forecasting, you would be surprised how un-scientific and un-mathematical these projections can be. If there's one thing I've learned is that if I'm looking for a certain raise in pay, don't take the company's word for it if they refuse that raise in pay because 'we didn't meet our numbers.' That may be the case, but their 'numbers' are often irrational and more or less a poor guesstimate. So, why should I pay for their irrationality?

Anyway...the WWE Network is a good idea...just at the price they are charging it's not feasible. But, the squeeze was being put on by the Board of Directors (corporations will blame shareholders, but the Board really runs the show) and they used a terrible pricing point. They could have probably priced it at $15 and made money on the deal.





YR

Excellent points man. I really appreciate this post a lot. Those were things I absolutely didn't take into consideration.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I've read several stories (from several sources) talking about the drinking exploits of "Andre The Giant"... Simply incredible about of alcohol he would put away each and every day... both for pain management and I guess relieve the boredom.

Oh yeah. Those stories are LEGENDARY.

I remember Hulk Hogan talking about how he'd get physically ill when he knew he'd be facing Andre. That he'd pull over on the side of the road multiple times to throw up because Andre was so intimidating.

He said it was the worst when he had to face him for WM III because he knew that if Andre suddenly decided during the match that he wasn't going to lose, and he wasn't going to do business, that there was nothing he could do about it.

Andre was quite the character and person.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Hulk Hogan discusses Mr. T, NBC, Stallone, WWE, WrestleMania 30

Posted on Friday, 08.01.14
BY JIM VARSALLONE
JVARSALLONE@MIAMIHERALD.COM

NBC and WWE are bringing WrestleMania 30 to network television on NBC from 7-8 p.m. EST Sunday, Aug. 3.

The special is titled “WrestleMania 30: The World Television Premiere.”

For the sixth consecutive year, a special will allow fans to relive moments celebrating 30 years of the world’s most popular sports entertainment extravaganza. The one-hour broadcast will feature the return of pop culture icons and WWE legends Hulk Hogan, Stone Cold Steve Austin and The Rock, as well as highly-anticipated matches, including John Cena vs. Bray Wyatt, and Undertaker defending his epic WrestleMania undefeated streak against former UFC Heavyweight Champion Brock Lesnar.

On April 6, WWE’s annual pop-culture extravaganza sold-out the Mercedes-Benz Superdome in New Orleans with more than 75,000 fans from 50 states and 37 countries. WrestleMania 30, grossing $10.9 million, broke the record for the Mercedes-Benz Superdome's highest grossing entertainment event, which was broadcast worldwide in more than 100 countries and 20 languages and reached a record 1 million households in the United States on WWE Network and pay-per-view combined.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/08/01/4264328/hulk-hogan-discusses-mr-t-nbc.html#storylink=cpy

 

[BoysFan4ever]

Hulk Hogan discusses Mr. T, NBC, Stallone, WWE, WrestleMania 30

Posted on Friday, 08.01.14
BY JIM VARSALLONE
JVARSALLONE@MIAMIHERALD.COM

NBC and WWE are bringing WrestleMania 30 to network television on NBC from 7-8 p.m. EST Sunday, Aug. 3.

The special is titled “WrestleMania 30: The World Television Premiere.”

For the sixth consecutive year, a special will allow fans to relive moments celebrating 30 years of the world’s most popular sports entertainment extravaganza. The one-hour broadcast will feature the return of pop culture icons and WWE legends Hulk Hogan, Stone Cold Steve Austin and The Rock, as well as highly-anticipated matches, including John Cena vs. Bray Wyatt, and Undertaker defending his epic WrestleMania undefeated streak against former UFC Heavyweight Champion Brock Lesnar.

On April 6, WWE’s annual pop-culture extravaganza sold-out the Mercedes-Benz Superdome in New Orleans with more than 75,000 fans from 50 states and 37 countries. WrestleMania 30, grossing $10.9 million, broke the record for the Mercedes-Benz Superdome's highest grossing entertainment event, which was broadcast worldwide in more than 100 countries and 20 languages and reached a record 1 million households in the United States on WWE Network and pay-per-view combined.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/08/01/4264328/hulk-hogan-discusses-mr-t-nbc.html#storylink=cpy

Not to be a party pooper but I'm not interested in that. Are any of you guys considering most of you probably watched that Wrestlemania?

It just seems like watching reruns in that you have to really love it to want to watch something you've already seen.

 

[Phoenix]

Not to be a party pooper but I'm not interested in that. Are any of you guys considering most of you probably watched that Wrestlemania?

It just seems like watching reruns in that you have to really love it to want to watch something you've already seen.

I actually saw this in our local rag, the Washington Express newspaper today and thought ***? Who would bother watching THAT?

 

[BoysFan4ever]

I actually saw this in our local rag, the Washington Express newspaper today and thought ***? Who would bother watching THAT?

Maybe it's just a filler type program for them. I'm not sure but then it says they've shown this kind of special programming for some years. I'm not quite a hardcore WWE fan yet to want to watch a recap of a Wrestlemania.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I'm curious. Any of you guys answer please.

Is that Ric Flair guy a drunk? He acted weird on RAW not long ago. Like he was drunk!

I'm just wondering.

Flair has had issues (as he admits) over the years with alcohol and drugs. He took his character of "stylin and profiling" way too seriously and it ruined marriages, his relationship with his kids and probably didn't do much for his health.

And it wasn't just him. He ran in a group that all partied very hard.

There's a famous story out there about Flair and Terry Funk (and there could have been other wrestlers there too) who drank/drugged themselves silly one night at Flair's house. And this was in the early days of his career when Terry Funk was still champion.

Flair's then wife came home and other than the mess, there was Terry Funk, naked as a jay bird laying on the floor– passed out. Or at least passed out for a while, and then came too, ran outside within nothing on other than the NWA Championship belt.

I couldn't begin to estimate the number of times Flair has been drunk, high or both... But it has to be a huge number.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

Flair has had issues (as he admits) over the years with alcohol and drugs. He took his character of "stylin and profiling" way too seriously and it ruined marriages, his relationship with his kids and probably didn't do much for his health.

And it wasn't just him. He ran in a group that all partied very hard.

There's a famous story out there about Flair and Terry Funk (and there could have been other wrestlers there too) who drank/drugged themselves silly one night at Flair's house. And this was in the early days of his career when Terry Funk was still champion.

Flair's then wife came home and other than the mess, there was Terry Funk, naked as a jay bird laying on the floor– passed out. Or at least passed out for a while, and then came too, ran outside within nothing on other than the NWA Championship belt.

I couldn't begin to estimate the number of times Flair has been drunk, high or both... But it has to be a huge number.

He acted strange that night on RAW. I wasn't sure if that was an act or what?

Flirting with that young announcer & all. It just had kind of a ewww factor to it.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

That's why if you watch a lot of documentaries on wrestlers who've been in wrestling a while then you'll find a ton of stories of families that aren't together, marriages that crumble, etc.

Ric Flair, Jake "The Snake", Dusty Rhodes, Steve Austin, John Cena the list goes on and on and on for guys who are on the road so much it destroys their family life. They're gone too much so their significant others get lonely, or they themselves more often than not give into temptations because they're all alone all the time.

It's a rough life for sure.

Superman Cena had marriage issues? Tell me it is not so!

I am just kidding. I feel sorry for anyone who divorces. It cannot be easy.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Not to be a party pooper but I'm not interested in that. Are any of you guys considering most of you probably watched that Wrestlemania?

It just seems like watching reruns in that you have to really love it to want to watch something you've already seen.

I've got prior plans so I won't be able to watch. But if I were to be home I'd spend an hour with my son to watch a recap show even though we did see WM30 in April.

 

[big dog cowboy]

He acted strange that night on RAW. I wasn't sure if that was an act or what?

Flirting with that young announcer & all. It just had kind of a ewww factor to it.

Reminded me of Joe Namath hitting on Suzy Kobler.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

Reminded me of Joe Namath hitting on Suzy Kobler.

I missed the Joe/Suzy fiasco. Kind of sad to see people who are so deep into their addiction they act that way. I hope he got some help.

I'd say Flair was drunk that night. He was just creepy.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

I've got prior plans so I won't be able to watch. But if I were to be home I'd spend an hour with my son to watch a recap show even though we did see WM30 in April.

I just can't go there yet. I like watching RAW though & if I am on my way out I dvr it, I'm at least that addicted.

I don't even do that with the Cowboys. If I want updates on their games that's available here. 24-7.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I missed the Joe/Suzy fiasco. Kind of sad to see people who are so deep into their addiction they act that way. I hope he got some help.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

Hey wait a minute. I have seen that. Poor Suzy. She handled that well.

I hope he got some help! He's better than that.