Yahoo: Jones put Dez in bad situation

[Kevinicus]

Hasn't stopped others from signing so what are the repercussions of the Cowboys timing? None, it is a business and most people can understand that.

Who are these others you are referring to? What are they signing for?

 

[Stash]

I agree that waiting a month into free agency kinda screwed Dez over but that wasn't the intention. I think it just took that long for the coaches to convince Jerry to pull the trigger. This decision wasn't a foregone conclusion at the end of the season.

Then that's another blunder on their part.

You make decisions based on the NFL calendar, not Jerry Jones' vacation calendar.

 

[hornitosmonster]

Okay...so give me a reasonable business reason the Cowboys would have that benefits them in doing what they did?

They don't owe him anything, but that doesn't mean they still can't do something wrong.

The CEO/GM/President/Whatever he calls himself probably needed convincing. It is a well known fact that Jerry gets attached to players. Dez being axed signals a new way of thinking. Cold, calculated, and team first. You should find hope in that instead of dwelling on Dez Bryant

 

[kskboys]

Hate to belabor Dez stuff but since this was a stance some took here, I thought I’d at least report the article for board consumption


https://www.yahoo.com/sports/jerry-...boys-late-release-hurt-chances-150622751.html

But the Cowboys waited more than a month into free agency to cut him. Why? We really don’t know. The Cowboys have talked around that, but again, if they weren’t going to keep Bryant on a pay cut, there was no real reason to wait other than indecision. By April 13, the bulk of NFL free agency is done. Cutting Bryant late wasn’t a help to the Cowboys, who couldn’t use the cap savings on any top-shelf free agents, and it sure didn’t help Bryant.

Dez put Dez in a bad situation.

 

[Doomsday101]

I don't see how waiting until late April was in the Cowboys best interests.

I don't think Jones had any malicious intent or anything, but incompetence/indecision is really not something we should defend either.

Because they took time to make this determination. It seems to me that your issue is Dallas should have done this quickly to benefit Dez. Dez and all other players do what benefits them and there is nothing wrong with that, I don't see how Dallas taking time thinking it through is a mistake.

 

[Kevinicus]

The CEO/GM/President/Whatever he calls himself probably needed convincing. It is a well known fact that Jerry gets attached to players. Dez being axed signals a new way of thinking. Cold, calculated, and team first. You should find hope in that instead of dwelling on Dez Bryant

That may be true...but that's not a good business reason. It's actually something that should be criticized.

And your post is pretty contradictory. The owner needed convincing...nearly 4 months after the season, and it's cold, calculated and team first? Doesn't fly.

It's difficult to say they cut Dez for money...they tried to sign Sammy Watkins.
It's difficult to say they cut Dez for performance...they tried to sign Sammy Watkins.
It's difficult to say they cut Dez for attitude...they tried to sign Sammy Watkins.

It's difficult to say there is a business reason for waiting until late April...there isn't one.

 

[hornitosmonster]

Who are these others you are referring to? What are they signing for?

Cutting Dez will have zero effect on the Boys ability to sign Free Agents. No one will look back and say, look how they did Dez. It's a business and business was conducted in regards to Dez.

 

[Diehardblues]

Hasn't stopped others from signing so what are the repercussions of the Cowboys timing? None, it is a business and most people can understand that.

What other big names were released so late in Free Agency ?

 

[Kevinicus]

Because they took time to make this determination. It seems to me that your issue is Dallas should have done this quickly to benefit Dez. Dez and all other players do what benefits them and there is nothing wrong with that, I don't see how Dallas taking time thinking it through is a mistake.

Nearly 4 months? That is not taking time, that is incompetence/indecision.

 

[Diehardblues]

Cutting Dez will have zero effect on the Boys ability to sign Free Agents. No one will look back and say, look how they did Dez. It's a business and business was conducted in regards to Dez.

And you believe it’s good business to just keep the Cap savings unspent this year?

It’s beginning to appear we had it in for Dez because he was unwilling to renegotiate.

 

[Kevinicus]

Cutting Dez will have zero effect on the Boys ability to sign Free Agents. No one will look back and say, look how they did Dez. It's a business and business was conducted in regards to Dez.

Oh, you meant who Dallas has signed? Who's arguing about that?

The repercussions are on Dez. There are no benefits to the timing to either party. There is a detriment in the timing to Dez. That is the point.

 

[hornitosmonster]

That may be true...but that's not a good business reason. It's actually something that should be criticized.

And your post is pretty contradictory. The owner needed convincing...nearly 4 months after the season, and it's cold, calculated and team first? Doesn't fly.

It's difficult to say they cut Dez for money...they tried to sign Sammy Watkins.
It's difficult to say they cut Dez for performance...they tried to sign Sammy Watkins.
It's difficult to say they cut Dez for attitude...they tried to sign Sammy Watkins.

It's difficult to say there is a business reason for waiting until late April...there isn't one.

How? The cold, calculated, and team first decision makers won out. Jerry conceded and let Dez go.

 

[Jake]

What other big names were released so late in Free Agency ?

Who cares?

Dez is a former Cowboy, regardless.

 

[Kevinicus]

How? The cold, calculated, and team first decision makers won out. Jerry conceded and let Dez go.

Cold and calculated doesn't take 4 months...unless you want to add cruel or mean spirited?

 

[Doomsday101]

Nearly 4 months? That is not taking time, that is incompetence/indecision.

and that is your opinion. Again so what they took their time. You seem more concerned with Dez, he got his money and if teams wanted him they could sign him. Hell when did the cap prevent many teams around the league from signing a player they really wanted?

 

[hornitosmonster]

Oh, you meant who Dallas has signed? Who's arguing about that?

The repercussions are on Dez. There are no benefits to the timing to either party. There is a detriment in the timing to Dez. That is the point.

Detriment to Dez should not be a factor in any decision. Dez is an employee who can be fired/cut at anytime. There is no bad timing when a business (Cowboys) is done with an employee (Dez).

 

[Ddisco22]

Hate to belabor Dez stuff but since this was a stance some took here, I thought I’d at least report the article for board consumption


https://www.yahoo.com/sports/jerry-...boys-late-release-hurt-chances-150622751.html

But the Cowboys waited more than a month into free agency to cut him. Why? We really don’t know. The Cowboys have talked around that, but again, if they weren’t going to keep Bryant on a pay cut, there was no real reason to wait other than indecision. By April 13, the bulk of NFL free agency is done. Cutting Bryant late wasn’t a help to the Cowboys, who couldn’t use the cap savings on any top-shelf free agents, and it sure didn’t help Bryant.

I think it's messed up, releasing him so late because they couldn't decide on who they were drafting. They knew all along that they would release him and yes it hurt his chances.
This also shows how things are decided and done in such a crappy manor working for the Jones family

 

[Doomsday101]

Detriment to Dez should not be a factor in any decision. Dez is an employee who can be fired/cut at anytime. There is no bad timing when a business (Cowboys) is done with an employee (Dez).

I don't hear anyone making these claims about McClain who was released later than Dez was.

 

[G2]

The problem with your argument is that Dez got a fair offer from Baltimore but turned it down. Once again we are back to accountability for your own actions. It's such a hard concept for some people to grasp.

That to me was just an ignorant choice. A 3 year deal sets him up to rebound from the past 3 seasons. There may be more to it, but the whole revenge tactic is just silly IMO.

 

[Stash]

I don't hear anyone making these claims about McClain who was released later than Dez was.

Apples to oranges.

McClain was released after the Commanders drafted multiple players to replace him. That move actually made sense from a timing perspective.