Yahoo Sports: Hamlin replaces Taylor for Pro Bowl, Roy Williams added

[Bob Sacamano]

Do you not know what "deep middle" means?

I didn't know that it was possible not to know what that means

 

[vicjagger]

Hello from Commanders nation ...Hail to the skins and here's to Roy taking home a pro-bowl MVP :starspin

and here's to the Commanders! I hate them more than any other franchise, but they have earned my respect after what they've accomplished after their loss.

And while we're at it...how about that NFC East! 2 years in a row with both NFC wildcards!

 

[DallasCowpoke]

wow....might as well send our entire team.

goat cheese... sporks... wet-naps...

oops, sorry Zoners! My shopping list!

 

[peplaw06]

and I quote...

even if it is Cover 3, Hamlin still blows the coverage.

Definition of "deep middle."

 

[Vegas_Cowboy]

and I quote...



even if it is Cover 3, Hamlin still blows the coverage.

Reeves got burned. Deal with it.

 

[AdamJT13]

Yeah, I'm about 99% sure it's Cover 3 (given that Wade's Atlanta playbook does not have a Cover 1 without man coverage underneath)

I would hope that nobody's defensive playbook has a Cover 1 that isn't man-to-man coverage by the cornerbacks. Talk about being vulnerable to the deep pass.

 

[big dog cowboy]

even if it is Cover 3, Hamlin still blows the coverage.

I just can't help it. Seriously.

 

[Hostile]

Hamlin didn't do a very good job playing Cover-1 last weekend.

Lot's of people blaming Reeves for the TD...but Hamlin left him hanging out to dry.

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Congratulations. You've already proven you don't know what Cover 2 is. Now you don't know what Cover 1 is.

If you watch at the end of the video you will see Hamlin closer to the line of scrimmage than the endzone where the deep pass was. How is that man to man coverage with the Free Safety deep, which is what Cover 1 is?

 

[Hostile]

Yeah, I'm about 99% sure it's Cover 3 (given that Wade's Atlanta playbook does not have a Cover 1 without man coverage underneath), but even if it was Cover 1 it likely wasn't his responsibility. In the Atlanta playbook, for a Cover 1 against a standard set, the free safety's responsibility is "DEEP MIDDLE 1/3 - LOOK TO HELP ON POST ROUTES."

That was Cover 3, you are 100% correct.

 

[Hostile]

I would hope that nobody's defensive playbook has a Cover 1 that isn't man-to-man coverage by the cornerbacks. Talk about being vulnerable to the deep pass.

You aren't kidding. They say CB is being on an island. That's on a barrier reef in a high surf looking at the island.

 

[AdamJT13]

If you watch at the end of the video you will see Hamlin closer to the line of scrimmage than the endzone where the deep pass was. How is that man to man coverage with the Free Safety deep, which is what Cover 1 is?

All he has to do is watch all of the other players -- Anthony Henry, especially -- playing zone coverage to know that it's not Cover 1.

 

[Hostile]

All he has to do is watch all of the other players -- Anthony Henry, especially -- playing zone coverage to know that it's not Cover 1.

When he looks at Henry he wants to put his eyes out.

Good advice.

 

[Beast_from_East]

He left Reeves hanging....

Sorry fella, your boy Reeves sucks.

I was hoping he would pan out and save us a first rounder, but the video dont lie.

Moss gave Reeves a double move and it was an easy 6.

 

[theogt]

I would hope that nobody's defensive playbook has a Cover 1 that isn't man-to-man coverage by the cornerbacks. Talk about being vulnerable to the deep pass.

According to some reports, the Ravens play some coverage where Reed covers the entire deep zone. Other than that, yeah, there's not much chance of it happening. I doubt Wade has that sort of confidence in Hamlin.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

LOL @ thinking because he got voted to the Pro Bowl, that means it's Roy has had a good season. The fans voted him cause they didnt know any better and he went from #1 on the fan vote to no where to be mentioned on the original roster cause on the coach and player votes, he had no real support. The only reason he's a pro bowler these past two years is cause he's a Dallas Cowboy. Plain and simple.

There are more Cowboy haters than there are Cowboy fans. Fans of every other team hate Dallas. The same can't be said of teams like the Steelers and Green Bay. They have fans of others teams who respect them; we don't! We are universally loathed. Cowboy players are always at a disadvantage if fans truly wanted to rally and vote against them. And if all it took was being a Dallas Cowboy to get voted in by the fans then how come we don't have 10 Pro Bowlers each year? Cowboy fans are not like the Chinese fans who vote for Yao over Shaq and Amare for the starting center position on the NBA All-Star team. This isn't the same scenario. The reason Roy is on the Pro Bowl is because of his past reputation. But guess what, that applies to a lot of players who made repeated Pro Bowls despite having average seasons or having worse stats than other more deserving players. I remember one season Brian Dawkins was given the nod over Cardinals safety Adrian Wilson just because of his past rep. Get over it moron, it happens

 

[AdamJT13]

According to some reports, the Ravens play some coverage where Reed covers the entire deep zone. Other than that, yeah, there's not much chance of it happening. I doubt Wade has that sort of confidence in Hamlin.

There's no way they would make Reed cover the entire deep zone without the corners having either man-to-man responsibility (as in Cover 1) or deep zone responsibility (as in Cover 3). Otherwise, the opponent merely has to send a receiver deep on each side, and one or both of them will be wide open.

 

[Hostile]

According to some reports, the Ravens play some coverage where Reed covers the entire deep zone. Other than that, yeah, there's not much chance of it happening. I doubt Wade has that sort of confidence in Hamlin.

Reed can be back there, but what Adam was saying is that in a Cover 1 no team would not have the CBs in man to man coverage. There's no way they could peel off in a Zone and leave one FS to cover everything past that Zone. That's a recipe for torched deep.

 

[joseephuss]

All he has to do is watch all of the other players -- Anthony Henry, especially -- playing zone coverage to know that it's not Cover 1.

And does it truly matter? In both Cover 1 and Cover 3 schemes when the wide receiver is catching a deep pass along the sideline and is the only offensive player on that side it is the fault of the corner back on that side. It would not have mattered if Reeves got confused and ran the wrong coverage between Cover 1 and Cover 3, he was responsible for stopping Moss on the route. He was either playing man(Cover 1) or deep zone(Cover 3) on that play, which makes it his responsibility. I do think it was Cover 3, but like I said it doesn't really matter. It was not Hamlin's fault and Reeves played it poorly.

 

[Yeagermeister]

And does it truly matter? In both Cover 1 and Cover 3 schemes when the wide receiver is catching a deep pass along the sideline and is the only offensive player on that side it is the fault of the corner back on that side. It would not have mattered if Reeves got confused and ran the wrong coverage between Cover 1 and Cover 3, he was responsible for stopping Moss on the route. He was either playing man(Cover 1) or deep zone(Cover 3) on that play, which makes it his responsibility. I do think it was Cover 3, but like I said it doesn't really matter. It was not Hamlin's fault and Reeves played it poorly.

Exactly.....Reeves bit on the first move and was toast from that point on. Hamlin had nothing to do with that.

 

[Hostile]

And does it truly matter? In both Cover 1 and Cover 3 schemes when the wide receiver is catching a deep pass along the sideline and is the only offensive player on that side it is the fault of the corner back on that side. It would not have mattered if Reeves got confused and ran the wrong coverage between Cover 1 and Cover 3, he was responsible for stopping Moss on the route. He was either playing man(Cover 1) or deep zone(Cover 3) on that play, which makes it his responsibility. I do think it was Cover 3, but like I said it doesn't really matter. It was not Hamlin's fault and Reeves played it poorly.

I partially agree with this. In Cover 1 the CBs are in Man Coverage and the FS is basically Center Field deep. So if only 1 WR comes deep the FS should be cheating over to help the CB with double coverage. So, the FS would also bear some responsibility in that case.

Doesn't matter, we were not in Cover 1. Hamlin was not deep, he was about 5 to 7 yards from the LOS in an underneath Zone, so blaming him for that coverage was completely foolish.