Yet Another QB Ranking - But This One Shocked Me Twice

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I don't know, I think that poundtherock (if I'm remembering his name right) guy could give him a run.

yeah pound is right up there. Difference is that KJJ is always posting and has so many more. I think as regards quantity he probably has more anti romo posts then anyone else.
 

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Yep, not a real stat, it's a fake phony stat for fake, phony fans. It does not have a logical definition (5 IP like baseball, in goal for game winning goal like hockey). It is nowhere to be found in the official NFL record book or on NFL.com. I don't have a problem with it as a general concept, like "The Cowboys were 12-3 when Tony Romo played last year", but it doesn't really have any place in a serious discussion. It's purely media created, in its never-ending quest to turn football into a wrestling match at midfield between the two QBs.

A QB is the only player who has a W/L record/winning percentage. QB's winning percentages have been discussed by every NFL expert and it's one the most important stats when judging how successful a career they've had. A QB's winning percentage is one of the stats the HOF committee examines both during the regular season and playoffs when voting QB's into the HOF. There's link after link after link of QB's W/L records and winning percentages. You won't find W/L records/winning percentages for WR's, LB's, DB's or any position except for QB. It's a stat that exists and is recognized by everyone in the NFL. It's a stat that's critical when determining how successful a QB has been. Production is important but QB's are ultimately judged by wins and losses. I posted many of the same things including that Wiki link 2 weeks ago and not one FAN could provide anything to dispute it which left several broken and bitter with nothing intelligent to counter with but tears and insults. They became new members of my ever growing butt hurt patrol.:laugh: Tears and insults expose those who've been kicked to the curb and are on the outside looking in on all my discussions.
 

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don't have a problem with it as a general concept, like "The Cowboys were 12-3 when Tony Romo played last year", but it doesn't really have any place in a serious discussion.

A QB's W/L record is part of serious discussion all the time amongst those who get paid to talk football. Many of these people played the game, coached it and were GM's and they all discuss QB's W/L records and winning percentages both during the regular season and playoffs. No one has a problem with it here if we're talking about Romo's 12-3 record last season but they have a big problem when discussing his 2-4 playoff record or his 2-7 elimination game record.
 

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If you dislike talking football with people who don't get it you're wasting your time on FAN boards because most don't get it they're too biased to get it. I've seen everyone from Brent Musburger to Al Michaels to former NFL GM's, coaches and players get ripped by FANS because they don't get it and refuse to get it if it doesn't favor the Cowboys. FANS think they know it all when it comes to the NFL and the Cowboys. They think they know more about the rules than Dean Blandino and know more about running the league than Roger Goodell. I've lost track of how many threads that have been started calling out those who played, coached and GM'd the game because some FAN didn't agree with them. It gets so ridiculous here that a couple of weeks ago I posted the Wiki link that I posted here in another thread and a few bashed the source claiming it's wrong and so am I. :laugh: The first sentence in that Wiki link is 100% correct and I challenge anyone to provide a link/source that disputes it...GOOD LUCK! NFL Network had a segment 2 years ago with Kurt Warner asking if it's fair that QB's are credited with a W/L record. It takes an incredibly uneducated FAN base not to know that QB's are credited with a W/L record.

FANS laugh in the face of facts and scoff at the experts exposing their lack of NFL knowledge. I would estimate only 10 to 15% who post on FAN boards really know what they're talking about because they do research and remove all bias from their posts working with facts while the rest are just biased armchair FANS/cheerleaders who base everything on their bias for the Cowboys. You have FANS here who are so blinded by their homerism they claimed that the ball never touched the ground on Dez' catch vs Green bay despite undisputable video evidence that it did touch the ground. LOL That's just an example of what you have to deal with on FAN boards.
Ten capitalized "FANS" in one post. Is that a KJJ record or what?
 

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How about providing a link proving that the NFL OFFICALLY RECOGNIZES this stat?

You do understand that ANYBODY can post ANYTHING on wikipedia, right?

Pure shut down awesomeness...
leading to crickets.

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How about providing a link proving that the NFL OFFICALLY RECOGNIZES this stat?

I provided a link that supports my position now the burden is on you or anyone else to provide a link that disputes it. Still waiting!


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Luck is living off of his draft status and cannon arm..

That didn't work for Jamarcus Russell. A QB's draft status will only get them a fat rookie contract they stay alive in the NFL by producing and winning games. The Colts were a 2 win team when Luck arrived and wouldn't be much better without him.
 

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I provided a link that supports my position now the burden is on you or anyone else to provide a link that disputes it. Still waiting!


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KJJ presented a link as proof.

KJJ presented a link that is not connected with the National Football League.

KJJ presented a link that some unverifiable source provided to Wikipedia.

KJJ presented a link that he asserted substantiates his factual statement but does nothing of the sort.

KJJ wants anyone else to prove what he did not prove in the first place.



That's our KJJ. Accept no substitute.
 

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Romo hasn't ever been on a good team?

What about the 2007 team that went 13-3 and had a NFL record 13 Pro-bowl players?

That was a pretty good team, unfortunately, a team that flubbed the playoffs.

I am mostly in the pro-Romo camp, however, one thing I can't stand is revisionist history.

That's a common spin here that Romo has never been on a good team. The 07 team was a terrific team for 12 weeks it was good enough to beat the eventual SB champion Giants twice until the playoffs when it mattered most. Romo diced them up in both games for 8 TD's in the regular season but appeared to have left his game in Cabo the week prior to the playoffs. That team was good enough to be the #1 seed but some claim that team wasn't any good. lol Even the 06 team was a "good" team it won 9 games and was a bobbled snap away from beating Seattle in the playoffs. The 09 team was a very good team that won 11 games and ended the season with back to back shutouts. That team was one of the hottest teams entering the postseason and dominated Philly in the Wildcard game. If Romo never wins a championship some will say that the none of the teams he played for were any good including last seasons team.
 
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I posted many of the same things including that Wiki link 2 weeks ago and not one FAN could provide anything to dispute it which left several broken and bitter with nothing intelligent to counter with but tears and insults. They became new members of my ever growing butt hurt patrol.:laugh: Tears and insults expose those who've been kicked to the curb and are on the outside looking in on all my discussions.

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Some things never change . . . . . .

Let me guess, you sent each of them multiple pms explaining how great you are and what a master debater you are and how impressed they would be if they really knew who you were . . . .
 

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KJJ presented a link as proof.

KJJ presented a link that is not connected with the National Football League.

KJJ presented a link that some unverifiable source provided to Wikipedia.

KJJ presented a link that he asserted substantiates his factual statement but does nothing of the sort.

KJJ wants anyone else to prove what he did not prove in the first place.



That's our KJJ. Accept no substitute.

Is that what "kicking others to he curb" means?

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