You expect me to believe another year of Romo, Witten, Ware, Garrett is supposed to compete w/that?

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DEN was successful with it because most teams don't cover like SEA does. But SEA is going to cover like that no matter who they're playing.

Re: DAL and DEN...honestly, what I took from that game, along with the DET game, was absolute cement-reinforcement of the idea that we absolutely have to improve our pass defense if we're going to beat good teams with any consistency. I know I say it all the time, but it was black and white evidence in that game. Offensively, we played as well as we can ever expect our offense to play, and it was still not enough.
I don't think our offense is great. I think it's good enough to win with. That's all. I just don't see the point in wasting resources to try to get it even better when our pass defense is just as important and is very obviously among the very worst in the whole league.

To me, it was black and white evidence in our first Game against the Giants when Eli Manning almost beat us even though he had 3 interceptions. He had 4 touchdowns to go with those 3 interceptions.

We had a pass defense problem from day one of the regular season.
 

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I might have been born at night but not last night. We are years from competing with those monsters in Seattle.

I'm not sure why you're calling out the Cowboys offensive players. It's all about the defense for Seattle and the lack of defense for Dallas.
 

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Next season is going to be a blood letting.

The NFC West had 3 teams with winning records, and you all know what Jason Garrett cant do, and that is beat teams with winning records.

And think about all those draft picks the Rams got for RG3. They are loading up too.
 

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I'm pretty sure absolutely no one goes into their day, or decision making, wondering what Zordon will or will not believe.
 

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We beat 1 team all year with a winning record and Garrett's career record against teams with winning records is like 4-22 and I am reading posts on here talking about how we are not that far away and "we could have given Seattle a run for their money if healthy".


Delusion is strong in this thread.
 

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Youth wins SB's imo, we had our chance in 2007 and blew it. That was our best chance ever for this core of guys. Now our core is old, still good but youth has always had that "I'm indestructible/invincible" mindset. They reminded me very much of our young 90's SB teams.
 

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Paul Allen raised the "12" flag before the NFC Championship. Not exactly a low-key owner who stays in the shadows. Jerry would get crushed if he did something like that; hell, he gets crushed just for being on the sidelines.

Injuries are the biggest reason we've disappointed the last couple years, and those have nothing to do with Jerry. Fix the D and you fix the Cowboys.

He can raise all the flags he wants. Does he micro-manage personnel?
 

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He can raise all the flags he wants. Does he micro-manage personnel?

Does Jerry? What's your definition of "micro-managing personnel" and where is your proof that Jerry does that?

The only things we really know about how the Cowboys operate is that Jerry gives a lot of interviews because he likes to be thought of as the guy who calls all the shots. Jimmy Johnson himself has said that Jerry never meddled. Jerry is the guy who will let people do their jobs as long as he gets a good amount of the attention/credit. Example: asking Jimmy to talk to him before drafting players with ESPN cameras present, to create the illusion that they're making the decision together.

So I'll ask again: where is your proof that Jerry "micro-manages personnel", whatever that means? What makes you think he micro-manages any more than any of the league's other 31 GMs? He doesn't even do contracts anymore- that's Stephen's job.
 

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Does Jerry? What's your definition of "micro-managing personnel" and where is your proof that Jerry does that?

So I'll ask again: where is your proof that Jerry "micro-manages personnel", whatever that means? What makes you think he micro-manages any more than any of the league's other 31 GMs? He doesn't even do contracts anymore- that's Stephen's job.

See current Assistant Coach situation: Three different play callers in three years, stripping Garrett of play calling duties, etc. Does Seahawks owner do any of that? If you are going to argue there is no proof that any of that was Jerry's doing, well, then, what can I say?
 

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See current Assistant Coach situation: Three different play callers in three years, stripping Garrett of play calling duties, etc. Does Seahawks owner do any of that? If you are going to argue there is no proof that any of that was Jerry's doing, well, then, what can I say?

So you wanted Garrett to keep his play-calling duties after 2011? Most people were fine with the change to Callahan, with the thinking that it would unclutter Garrett's mind and he could focus more on game/clock management.

And it's been widely reported that Garrett, not Jerry, was the one who pushed for Linehan. They're former colleagues with the Dolphins.

Doesn't look like an example of "micro-managing" at all.

People just like to assume that Jerry is this heavy-handed owner who calls all the shots no matter what because he's an easy target. I've still never seen any real proof that he oversteps his boundaries as GM. Interviews/radio shows don't count to me. That's just Jerry wanting credit/attention; again, the ILLUSION that he's running the show. Jimmy himself said Jerry never meddled. Pretty sure he'd know.
 

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There, there, little Knanopsie. You half us, you half youth and you half mammaries of the Cowboys winning SB trophies so i cant be that bad. Stop your crying and I will take you to KiddieLand. Churros and popcorn are have-price on Mondays!

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I might have been born at night but not last night. We are years from competing with those monsters in Seattle.

Who cares about competing. I just want to be entertained.
 

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Until the Cowboys defense finds some goons, there will be dark days boss. This defense lack a couple MEN. And when I say men, I mean mean SOBs that want to tackle with bad intention and under normal circumstances you'd avoid being around because they appear to be bipolar. They like hurting people and being physical. Who are our MEN on defense? We have too many finesse dudes on defense that don't enjoy the physical nature of the game. They're too worried about being marketable.

Ratliff used to be that goon along with Columbo on offense, but Jerry found a way to take the passion to destroy from Ratliff. I want a couple more players like Ratliff used to be. I can't think of one guy on defense that would that I like to be in a foxhole with me if something popped off. Not one. Lee, no! He's respected for his savviness, playmaking with a nice physicality to his game but I don't think people fear meeting him in the hole. We just don't have any enforcers on defense and that's sad!

Let's pray that jerry drafts or signs some goons that will toughen these boys up!
 

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don't forget what they did to the Saints, who also destroyed us

These seemingly unstoppable offenses, they just don't care at all
 

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But Sherman says the Seahawks figured out what the hand signals meant early in the Super Bowl against the Denver Broncos, and just started dominating."

"'We knew what route concepts they liked on different downs, so we jumped all the routes. Then we figured out the hand signals for a few of the route audibles in the first half.'

"He demonstrates the signs Manning used for various routes, and says he and his teammates were calling out plays throughout the game and getting them right. 'Me, Earl [Thomas], Kam [Chancellor]… we’re not just three All-Pro players. We’re three All-Pro minds,' Sherman says. 'Now, if Peyton had thrown in some double moves, if he had gone out of character, we could’ve been exposed.'"

Now if they did that to Manning, imagine what they are going to do to Romo and our elementary offense
 

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Jimmy himself said Jerry never meddled. Pretty sure he'd know.

He did not dare do it because Johnson had control of the staff and personnel in his contract.

Ever see Jones make Johnson fire a coach? How about hire his offensive coordinator before he even got hired himself?

The head coach under this structure, no matter who it is, will always have the avenue for Jones to step in where he sees fit. Even Parcells could not control who was brought onto the roster. He could suggest, Jerry would "listen". But there are more than a few examples of players who were brought on board that Parcells, if he had his way, would not have on the football team. That was possible because the contract said it was. Jason Garrett is no different, not by a long shot.
 

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So you wanted Garrett to keep his play-calling duties after 2011? Most people were fine with the change to Callahan, with the thinking that it would unclutter Garrett's mind and he could focus more on game/clock management.

And it's been widely reported that Garrett, not Jerry, was the one who pushed for Linehan. They're former colleagues with the Dolphins.

Doesn't look like an example of "micro-managing" at all.

People just like to assume that Jerry is this heavy-handed owner who calls all the shots no matter what because he's an easy target. I've still never seen any real proof that he oversteps his boundaries as GM. Interviews/radio shows don't count to me. That's just Jerry wanting credit/attention; again, the ILLUSION that he's running the show. Jimmy himself said Jerry never meddled. Pretty sure he'd know.

Jerry insisting on being GM (when he is not qualified to be one) is overstepping his boundaries as Owner. That's the complaint. Not that he oversteps as GM, but by being GM he is overstepping.
 
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