Zeke over first game production?

[blueblood70]

Oh believe me, the hypocritical excuses will be out.

Yeah I'm just having fun with this I know it's one game Henry could still have a great season but I wanna make sure people understand when you come in and you call our running backroom historically bad and everyone said we should've got Henry and after that touchdown the over reactions were precious even though it was a very average sound for a guy like zeke I thought it was crazy that people didn't think we were gonna come on here 'cause I kept receipts and I'm gonna do this weekly good or bad I wanna see over 17 games was Henry worth $8 million and did he make a difference because after game one the Ravens look like the old Ravens they lost to the chiefs and who was the best runner on the field that would be also their overrated quarterback in Lamar Jackson because he's not the MVP Prescott the MVP are we gonna breakdown his throws or miss throws and then make excuses that he thought the receiver was gonna run across the field isn't that what happened with lamb in the Green Bay game was supposed to finish his slant and went up field turned into a pick 6? I mean I heard the breakdown of Prescott's game and how he misses players who are open not things they really keep it's just deep analytics but Lamar Jackson did not look like the MVP and king h....ok and i get to make fun for one game..

Go back to the running backs so let's go with the overall Ravens running backroom last night, hell let's bring the chiefs too and we can't count the running plays by receivers or by quarterbacks 'cause we're talking about the halfback room that was the historically bad halfback room thread I'm on that one right now too....

Chiefs RBs. Pacheko 15-45 3YPC not sure who else they used for rb maybe 1 Carson Steele 2 carries 3 yards 1.5 YPC so 17 carries 48 yards for that halfbac room..2.9 YPC

Ravens-henry 13-46 1td 3.5 ypc J HILL?? anyone know this guy? 1 for 3 yards 17 carries for 49 yards 2.9 YOC total

so are we gonna RIP their coaches for not running the ball enough not being effective and having a bunch of nobodies at running back because I saw some names and I saw some backups with no names you're trying to tell me that that Rico dowdle is worse than those two backups and that dalvin cook is worse than those backups?

I mean I'm sure that hunter lefty can do what Carson Steele did since they look like the same type of guy... I mean is that what we're saying is that what we mean historically bad because that's what I saw last night the run calls and the effectiveness of the run game with no depth at running back so hey we should have done that this offseason...LOL let's keep it real though the note is both those defenses are good both those defensive lines are good and that means it's not always about the running backs it's about the offensive line and can they block the guys in front of them effectively that's how you get a good run game it has nothing to do with big name running backs and how much you spend on the running backroom...

 

[blueblood70]

Everyone is using yards as the the key metric to gauge Zeke's success. I'd say looking at how many first downs he converted is the way to go.

You shouldn't be using the yards per carry because they put him in a lot of short yardage like under 3 yards whether that be at the goal line or to move the chains and it's going to eat up your yards per carry for sure.. but lets get 3.5-4 YPC like Najee Harris

Zeke 600 yards with 8 tds using Zeke sparingly ill take it!

 

[Bobhaze]

I would imagine 12 carries 40 yards, 2 check downs for 10 yards. 1 TD.

8 carries, 23 yards, 1 reception, 5 yards. Zeke “starting” is not an indication of use IMO. I think Rico gets the majority of the usage at RB (Not that that is great either)

 

[blueblood70]

8 carries, 23 yards, 1 reception, 5 yards. Zeke “starting” is not an indication of use IMO. I think Rico gets the majority of the usage at RB (Not that that is great either)

100% do people not realize he's getting the respect because of what he's done with this franchise and in the NFL just he's getting the label RB1 , I mean did anyone miss Mike McCarthy's comments last week or was it the beginning of this week that we cooked out deserves more carries and that he looks like a very good three down back..

I see Ezekiel Elliott being used as a full back hybrid he will be blocking he will be running short yardage he will be go line guy and occasionally if he's hot they'll probably run him four or five times in a row but i don't see them being that clue....es a game again it's not going to happen. but I don't see them being that clueless to hand this back 20 carries a game again it's not gonna happen the running back by committee can work very well if it's distributed properly the proper running back used for the proper situation and the proper play call and yes you need good blocking....

 

[Coogiguy03]

8 carries, 23 yards, 1 reception, 5 yards. Zeke “starting” is not an indication of use IMO. I think Rico gets the majority of the usage at RB (Not that that is great either)

When he had the ball at times last season, it seemed like he was able to get yards around the 4+ area often

 

[Coogiguy03]

100% do people not realize he's getting the respect because of what he's done with this franchise and in the NFL just he's getting the label RB1 , I mean did anyone miss Mike McCarthy's comments last week or was it the beginning of this week that we cooked out deserves more carries and that he looks like a very good three down back..

I see Ezekiel Elliott being used as a full back hybrid he will be blocking he will be running short yardage he will be go line guy and occasionally if he's hot they'll probably run him four or five times in a row but i don't see them being that clue....es a game again it's not going to happen. but I don't see them being that clueless to hand this back 20 carries a game again it's not gonna happen the running back by committee can work very well if it's distributed properly the proper running back used for the proper situation and the proper play call and yes you need good blocking....

that would only happen if we're blowing them out and at that point Lupeke should be getting carries/Duece

 

[blueblood70]

8 carries, 23 yards, 1 reception, 5 yards. Zeke “starting” is not an indication of use IMO. I think Rico gets the majority of the usage at RB (Not that that is great either)

im going 10 for 39 1 td 2 catches 19 yards and 1 td :__)) he has fresh legs could be a good game for extra carries..

 

[Skynet]

9 carries for 21 yards
Three catches

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I'm getting old....but as we contemplate whatever paltry role Zeke will play for us this year....

I can't help but be struck by this...

I wanted Ramsey so badly in that draft class and was called an idiot on this board for not wanting the shiny Zeke toy. Meanwhile the guy is getting paid again setting high watermark for a MUCH more important position.

 

[Coogiguy03]

I'm getting old....but as we contemplate whatever paltry role Zeke will play for us this year....

I can't help but be struck by this...

I wanted Ramsey so badly in that draft class and was called an idiot on this board for not wanting the shiny Zeke toy. Meanwhile the guy is getting paid again setting high watermark for a MUCH more important position.

so he's making 8 million a year or 24 million a year lol

 

[fivetwos]

Thought he was supposedly a situational guy.

Not exactly sure what that means, but when he enters the game on 3rd and 2, guess what coming. Mike has get creative with that and he is capable. Zeke could serve as a decoy in the right spots.

That all said, if Ezekiel Elliott is getting the 20+ touches some of you have predicted….wait never mind on that….under exactly WHICH scenario does that happen? I can’t see it. Enlighten me please.

 

[TheMightyVanHalen]

15 carries for a tough 80-90 yards. 1 TD. 3 checkdown catches for 15-20 yards.

COWBOYS 30 BROWNS 16

 

[visionary]

Cleveland will be expecting us to establish the run based on MMs comments
Come out in run formation and throw from play action 5-6 straight times to back them up
Then run the ball

 

[Bobhaze]

Cleveland will be expecting us to establish the run based on MMs comments
Come out in run formation and throw from play action 5-6 straight times to back them up
Then run the ball

Not a bad idea. But I think their safeties will already be deep to stop the pass because I believe Cle is counting on their front 7 being able to stop the run with no help. That’s because they won’t feel threatened by any of our backs.

 

[blueblood70]

I'm getting old....but as we contemplate whatever paltry role Zeke will play for us this year....

I can't help but be struck by this...

I wanted Ramsey so badly in that draft class and was called an idiot on this board for not wanting the shiny Zeke toy. Meanwhile the guy is getting paid again setting high watermark for a MUCH more important position.

fly dude we've got a bunch of good corners now since then so let it go... We picked up our franchise quarterback in the fourth round so that basically flip flops and makes that draft great doesn't matter where we pick zeke or where we pick Prescott the way they play their rookie years showed it was the right choice I'm tired of the ridiculousness this happens it's like TJ Watt versus Taco yes it was a mistake but we got our pass rusher Michael Parsons this far past those drafts since, you need to let it go. And by the way I think this is a bad contract I've seen jalen Ramsey play the last three years he's starting to drop off and they're overpaying the guy he will never live up to that contract.

WE have Diggs , Bland, Jlew and possibly just hit on Carson but id say we did fine at CB.... And by the way other teams since then picked guys like saquon Barkley you had guys like the Rams took in girly and other guys I believe Bijan Robinson just got picked in the top five if I'm not mistaken other teams do this it's not just the Cowboys they seem one of the best backs to come out of College in a very long time back-to-back 1800 yard seasons at Ohio big time College Football Playoff 200 plus yard games carry those quarterbacks and that's why zeke went where he went because that's what they saw and that's what other teams see when they go and pick a player like a running back that high.. What is it do heck one of the best rookie running back productions of all time he nearly had a rookie year that you could have put both Emmitt Smith and Tony dorsett's rookie years together.

So let's stop the nonsense and you're gonna get this kind of response from me let it go time has passed it doesn't matter jalen Ramsey's didn't help Miami win a Super Bowl last year but yeah he got paid and I seen a little bit of a drop off of his game maybe even a big drop off and somehow they're paying him anyway instead we got BLAND/DIGGS as our future where we pick him that's why it's OK because when they hit on players outside the third round and they become starters then you can let this stuff go...

 

[shabazz]

8 carries, 34 yards (he pops one for 9-12). Goal line TD. 2 check downs that go for 8 yards.

I would add 4 blitz pickups as well

 

[blueblood70]

I'm getting old....but as we contemplate whatever paltry role Zeke will play for us this year....

I can't help but be struck by this...

I wanted Ramsey so badly in that draft class and was called an idiot on this board for not wanting the shiny Zeke toy. Meanwhile the guy is getting paid again setting high watermark for a MUCH more important position.

and after my long rant wasn't he drafted by the Jacksonville Jaguars??? why isn't he still there?? I mean why is this guy now on his fourth team and by the way I feel like he's dropping off he's being overpaid right now and I don't even know why yes he's a good corners been a great corner at times,

we got those two we end up getting diggs, we end up getting bland, we end up drafting well we got a deep safety room so we're OK you can let this go..

it's been that long but if the Jacksonville Jaguars let him go and now i don't remember how many teams, he's been on is this his fourth team? So what are the odds he'd still be here very very low..

LET IT GO!!

 

[fivetwos]

100% do people not realize he's getting the respect because of what he's done with this franchise and in the NFL just he's getting the label RB1 , I mean did anyone miss Mike McCarthy's comments last week or was it the beginning of this week that we cooked out deserves more carries and that he looks like a very good three down back..

I see Ezekiel Elliott being used as a full back hybrid he will be blocking he will be running short yardage he will be go line guy and occasionally if he's hot they'll probably run him four or five times in a row but i don't see them being that clue....es a game again it's not going to happen. but I don't see them being that clueless to hand this back 20 carries a game again it's not gonna happen the running back by committee can work very well if it's distributed properly the proper running back used for the proper situation and the proper play call and yes you need good blocking....

I wouldn’t mind seeing him used as a blocking back at times. I don’t consider Mike an elite OC, but he is pretty good, and capable. He can get creative enough at times.

If Elliott is used correctly…AND he is fine with that…it could work. The guy is completely cooked as a lead back, but let’s see what happens.

For me it just reeks of Jerry and his emotions and relationships with players. It never seems to serve him well.

 

[fivetwos]

I doubt Cook won’t be active until week 3-4.

zeke will start, deuce will get certain packages and Dowdle will get the most rushes

I think you’ve about nailed it.

I expect Zeke to get banged up quickly and try to play through it, and Dowdle to actually miss several games.

Cook will look like a decent pickup at some point.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

so he's making 8 million a year or 24 million a year lol

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