Zeke vs other top RBs

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The argument against YPC is flawed. I get that the numbers look that way to make a point but the variance of runs in practice is never that extreme. Running backs that can maintain that good a YPC over a large sample size of 200+ runs typically are good players. Murray started his career playing behind a bad offensive line but had always maintained a 4+ YPC
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Generally good players, but ypc doesn't tell you the best RB from the 5th RB many years.
 

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bkight13 said:
Been trying to tell everyone how good Murray was since 2014....Zeke is gonna get even better with experience though
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Murray never ever ever ever ever ever ever broke tackles like Zeke. Murray had Romo putting him in perfect position to run against favorable alignments. Zeke is running at run blitzes a good part of the time.

Murray never ever never ever ever ever had Zeke's ability to get to the outside against ends and DBs that are in good contain positions.

I like Murray, but he is not Zeke.
 
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Zeke Elliott is ranked #2 in the history of the NFL for rushing yards in the first 8 games of their rookie year.

Eric Dickerson* 995
Ezekiel Elliott 891
George Rogers 859
Billy Sims 859
Ottis Anderson 768
Adrian Peterson 740
Alfred Morris 717
Marshall Faulk* 702
Earl Campbell* 697
Mike Anderson 676
Don Woods 673
Curt Warner 654
LaDainian Tomlinson 651
Eddie George 640
Edgerrin James 637
Chris Johnson 626
Joe Cribbs 608
Johnny Johnson 605
John Brockington 602
Barry Sanders* 597
Ricky Williams 582
Ricky Watters 576
Todd Gurley 575

He is ranked tenth in average yards per carry for all rookie RB's in their first 8 games. Zeke is tied for 6th place with Earl Campbel in TD's scored.

Most importantly, his team is 7-1.
 
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windjc said:
Murray never ever ever ever ever ever ever broke tackles like Zeke. Murray had Romo putting him in perfect position to run against favorable alignments. Zeke is running at run blitzes a good part of the time.

Murray never ever never ever ever ever had Zeke's ability to get to the outside against ends and DBs that are in good contain positions.

I like Murray, but he is not Zeke.
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that is just ridiculously not true and some of the worst revisionist history I have ever seen
 

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bkight13 said:
that is just ridiculously not true and some of the worst revisionist history I have ever seen
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Show me a highlight - just one - where Murray goes to the outside like Zeke does on this play:

Now show me just one Murray highlight where he breaks more than 3 tackles. If you need me to grab the video of Zeke doing this, let me know.
 
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windjc said:
Murray never ever ever ever ever ever ever broke tackles like Zeke. Murray had Romo putting him in perfect position to run against favorable alignments. Zeke is running at run blitzes a good part of the time.

Murray never ever never ever ever ever had Zeke's ability to get to the outside against ends and DBs that are in good contain positions.

I like Murray, but he is not Zeke.
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windjc said:
Show me a highlight - just one - where Murray goes to the outside like Zeke does on this play:

Now show me just one Murray highlight where he breaks more than 3 tackles. If you need me to grab the video of Zeke doing this, let me know.
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Here are about 50 ^^^^^^^^^^^^.........make sure to keep watching they get better and better
 
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windjc said:
Ive seen this many times. It shows no runs that Zeke cannot do. However, I can show you Zeke runs that Murray cannot do.
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You must be hard of seeing then.....they run very similarly
 

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bkight13 said:
You must be hard of seeing then.....they run very similarly
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There are similarities, but Zeke has quicker first step burst, better speed to the outside, he is quicker straight line and he is more punishing. He is also a better blocker.
 

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Lol. I am not talking about hurdling. That is window dressing.

If Zeke has Tony setting the right defense to run a play against, he'd be averaging 6+ yards a carry. You realize Zeke is running into run defenses, right? Tony would have make those defenses stay honest.
 

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bkight13 said:
not yet

Murray has single game record-253 , single season record-1845 and most 100 games to start a season-8
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Playing with Tony. Show me ONE expert around the league that says Murray is as good as Zeke. There is a reason we didn't pay Murray.
 
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windjc said:
Lol. I am not talking about hurdling. That is window dressing.

If Zeke has Tony setting the right defense to run a play against, he'd be averaging 6+ yards a carry. You realize Zeke is running into run defenses, right? Tony would have make those defenses stay honest.
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Do I look like a producer at ESPN????No then watch his youtube highlights and STHeckU
 
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