Zeke's accuser admitted to talk of leveraging sex videos of RB for money

Denim Chicken

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Clearly the accuser is crazy, not very credible, selfish, violent, etc. Which honestly, makes it even harder for a BF to control himself in a verbal altercation, etc.

Or just as likely that she would hurt herself in an attempt ruin Elliot's career--something she has repeatedly threatened to do.
 

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They have far more information on the case than we do and talked, first-hand, to many witnesses including Zeke and Tiffany. They concluded he likely did something. I have read bios of the panel members, they are diverse and accomplished people.

You have no idea what information they have or don't have. You're just like the NFL that you've come to a conclusion and now you're trying to figure out how to make it work. It's dishonest at best.
 

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Well, Roger has a chance to do something about it when he hears the appeal. I'm not expecting much, though.

Maybe if someone could point out the last good decision he's made on this, I'd have more faith?

Anyone?

Anyone?

Bueller?

:huh:
 

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Simply not true, that's not how the law works.

This isn't about the law. The law threw this case out.

This is about the NFL's investigations. What other evidence do they have besides her word?

Nothing is really clear in the CBA in regards to what limit Goodell has. If Zeke wins in the court of public opinion, Goodell will want this to go away ASAP and possibly negotiate.
 

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Here's the problem.

Apparently, the NFL has a TON of more information on Zeke that has not yet become public.

Stay tuned.
 

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Again though, it doesn't mean it didn't happen.That's the point that so many people are missing. Is she the scum of the earth? It appears that she is. But, that doesn't mean that he's incapable of harming her, and this isn't about her, this is about him.
you don't see problem here? any dumped girlfriend or wife can accuse a nfl player of anything and the NFL has set the precedent that they are going to believe her no matter the evidence to the contrary.
 

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I think you're naive.

It's a he said/she said case and in those cases...credibility is very important.

This is a girl that is on record of:

1. Alleging she was abused somewhere between the 16th-19th

2. Going to EE's apartment for a party that he specifically told her that she was not invited on the 21st

3. Got into a fight with a random woman prior to her going to his apartment.

4. Went to his apartment after the fight, saw EE being driven to his apartment by a female and then confronted the female.

5. Yelled at EE that she was going to ruin his career in front of 6 different people.

6. Had the audacity to then lie to police about the entire incident on the 21st despite there being 6 witnesses there.

7. Was crazy enough to then ask her friend, in a text message, to lie to police for her.

Just based on those events, this is a hostile, volatile woman with a penchant for violence and some incredible audacity/stupidity to think that she can lie despite several witnesses being there. And then have the audacity/stupidity to tamper with a witness. And she's looking like a pathological liar.

She claims she was abused by EE, but that still did not prevent her from coming to his apartment for a party she was specifically told she was not invited to. Given the other evidence and her pattern of behavior, it's highly unlikely an abuse victim would get abused and still try to get with her abuser despite the fact that he specifically told her to stay away from him.

Yet, you still want to believe otherwise and are willing to nitpick semantics because it isn't to your liking because you simply cannot believe a female would lie about domestic violence.





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This isn't about the law. The law threw this case out.

This is about the NFL's investigations. What other evidence do they have besides her word?

Nothing is really clear in the CBA in regards to what limit Goodell has. If Zeke wins in the court of public opinion, Goodell will want this to go away ASAP and possibly negotiate.

I don't see how one "negotiates" being labeled as a "woman beater"? It's an all or nothing proposition. He either did it and is guilty or he didn't and doesn't deserve any punishment.

I see no room to "negotiate".
 

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That's exactly why, and because it's true.

It's funny that they had a mountain of evidence regarding her motives and her lying. But in a he said / she said of the incident, they sided with the known liar.

You don't have to go much further than that.

and the NFL are dead if this thing goes to trial.
Wow, all this information and RG still dropped the hammer. Either they have something very damning or they are as dumb as Moore stinks as a NFL QB.
Goodell is that DUMB !!! It's True, It's dam true !!!
 

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You said he has not denied the allegations. In fact, in the past, he has denied doing it.

Now he may not have done it as strongly as you wanted him to or as recently, but that's likely due to the fact his attorneys are controlling the PR message at this point.

Again, it's not uncommon in a situation like this for the accused to largely be silent. My brother is an attorney and laughed at the notion that people think Elliott not yelling from a soapbox on Friday that he was innocent of all charges is somehow proof he did, in fact do it.

He said Elliott didn't even actually write the statement he released. That came from his attorneys.

If someone is 100% innocent, it is best to deny it. Especially when you are battling public perception, which is largely the case here. The same path Michael Irvin went down recently when he was accused of sexual assault. He very clearly denied it with specific and pointed language, meaning 'I DID NOT COMMIT SEXUAL ASSAULT'.
 

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you don't see problem here? any dumped girlfriend or wife can accuse a nfl player of anything and the NFL has set the precedent that they are going to believe her no matter the ence to the contrary.

Exactly.

Apparently, the NFL doesn't realize that they're opening Pandora's Box and inviting any crazy, money-grubbing female to line up behind this one.
 

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They have far more information on the case than we do and talked, first-hand, to many witnesses including Zeke and Tiffany. They concluded he likely did something. I have read bios of the panel members, they are diverse and accomplished people.

Yes, and they work for the league which took huge PR hits by blundering up numerous previous DV cases and wants to clean that image up. Those people know exactly what the league wants and that's a high profile bring the hammer down case so that's what they did even though the evidence to do so isn't there.
 
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