Zeke's accuser admitted to talk of leveraging sex videos of RB for money

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Fuzzy, where have I insulted or ridiculed anyone? I said some of you guys 'seemed Naive to me'. Obviously people have different opinions.

Calling someone naive is both ridicule and an insult.

 

[Stash]

Look, more ridicule in place of argument.

It's obvious that supported argument is out of his reach. It's the typical response when you've got nothing else.

 

[Sydla]

The fact that she didn't call police prior is very easy to explain. She was still hoping to either (a) be with him or (b) get money from him until he de-invited her to the birthday party (which took place after the three days). After he dissed her, her plans changed and she decided to ruin him.

I noticed you glossed right over the fact you were proven inaccurate.

 

[Sydla]

Only smart to say silent if he is guilty of the abuse. If he is not guilty of any sort of abuse, EASILY the best path is to come out and say 'I did not abuse her. period'.

Some of you guys seem pretty naive to me. All this stuff going on that week, all those fights, jealousy, lies, a crazy girl, a lot of drinking, cat fights, bruises and probably drugs, and you guys don't think there isn't a high likelihood Zeke hit her?

You have little to no idea what you are talking about.

 

[Stash]

No one, even a doctor, can look at a bruise or a photo of a bruise and conclusively tell how it occurred, much less who did it. I known liar with revenge in her heart is more than capable of inflicting bruises on herself or asking a close friend to do it so she can have blackmail evidence.

And that's what the people who get paid to determine these things, in fact, determined.

While those who have no clue what they're dealing with and want to do something to make the league look tough took another route.

Which is now blowing up in their collective faces.

 

[goshan]

I think you're naive.

It's a he said/she said case and in those cases...credibility is very important.

This is a girl that is on record of:

1. Alleging she was abused somewhere between the 16th-19th

2. Going to EE's apartment for a party that he specifically told her that she was not invited on the 21st

3. Got into a fight with a random woman prior to her going to his apartment.

4. Went to his apartment after the fight, saw EE being driven to his apartment by a female and then confronted the female.

5. Yelled at EE that she was going to ruin his career in front of 6 different people.

6. Had the audacity to then lie to police about the entire incident on the 21st despite there being 6 witnesses there.

7. Was crazy enough to then ask her friend, in a text message, to lie to police for her.

Just based on those events, this is a hostile, volatile woman with a penchant for violence and some incredible audacity/stupidity to think that she can lie despite several witnesses being there. And then have the audacity/stupidity to tamper with a witness. And she's looking like a pathological liar.

She claims she was abused by EE, but that still did not prevent her from coming to his apartment for a party she was specifically told she was not invited to. Given the other evidence and her pattern of behavior, it's highly unlikely an abuse victim would get abused and still try to get with her abuser despite the fact that he specifically told her to stay away from him.

Yet, you still want to believe otherwise and are willing to nitpick semantics because it isn't to your liking because you simply cannot believe a female would lie about domestic violence.





YR

I hear you, and I understand your POV. Yes, I do think violence occurred and Zeke was involved. Primarily because four people (who are pretty accomplished) investigated this for a year, and they concluded that violence likely occurred, and Zeke did something. Clearly the accuser is crazy, not very credible, selfish, violent, etc. Which honestly, makes it even harder for a BF to control himself in a verbal altercation, etc.

 

[robjay04]

Again though, it doesn't mean it didn't happen.That's the point that so many people are missing. Is she the scum of the earth? It appears that she is. But, that doesn't mean that he's incapable of harming her, and this isn't about her, this is about him.

This is entirely about her word and her integrity. That's the only "evidence" is her word.

 

[goshan]

I noticed you glossed right over the fact you were proven inaccurate.

How was I proven inaccurate?

 

[CATCH17]

Fuzzy, where have I insulted or ridiculed anyone? I said some of you guys 'seemed Naive to me'. Obviously people have different opinions.

It's not about being naïve.

Zeke very well could've done what she is saying.

Prove it though.


You can't suspend someone based on a theory. Especially when there is a plethora of evidence that shows her saying she is trying to blackmail the guy.

 

[Sydla]

How was I proven inaccurate?

You said he has not denied the allegations. In fact, in the past, he has denied doing it.

Now he may not have done it as strongly as you wanted him to or as recently, but that's likely due to the fact his attorneys are controlling the PR message at this point.

Again, it's not uncommon in a situation like this for the accused to largely be silent. My brother is an attorney and laughed at the notion that people think Elliott not yelling from a soapbox on Friday that he was innocent of all charges is somehow proof he did, in fact do it.

He said Elliott didn't even actually write the statement he released. That came from his attorneys.

 

[adbutcher]

I'm sure they know she is white.

 

[Section446]

This is entirely about her word and her integrity. That's the only "evidence" is her word.

Simply not true, that's not how the law works.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I hear you, and I understand your POV. Yes, I do think violence occurred and Zeke was involved. Primarily because four people (who are pretty accomplished) investigated this for a year, and they concluded that violence likely occurred, and Zeke did something. Clearly the accuser is crazy, not very credible, selfish, violent, etc. Which honestly, makes it even harder for a BF to control himself in a verbal altercation, etc.

You have no idea why they came up with their rationale. you really have no idea about their background and yet you take them at their word anyway.

 

[Denim Chicken]

So to sum up the evidence on both sides:

Zeke has:

· Signed Affidavit from Ayrian Mason (accusers friend) stating no DV occurred on July 22nd, Tiffany was in a fight with another female earlier in the night, & than Tiffany told her she was going to “ruin his career”.


· Text messages between Tiffany & Ayrian where Tiffany asked Ayrian to lie about events on the 22nd.


· Signed Affidavit from Kenny Alvarado (security manager at club) stating he witnessed Tiffany and another woman fighting “punching each other and pulling each other’s hair” on July 21st.


· Signed Affidavit from Dylan Minney (mutual friend?) stating no DV occurred on July 22nd & that Tiffany asked him to lie to the police.


· Signed Affidavit from Alverez Jackson stating no DV occurred on July 22nd & that Tiffany was “yelling that she was going to ruin {Zeke’s} career”.


· Elliot filed an incent report against Tiffany on September 5th for: Reciving 50 + phone calls in an 8 hour period & hacking into his email account where she found is contracts phone numbers and called then to leave “untruthful things that can hurt his image.”


· Tiffany admitted to a text exchange in which she discussed leveraging sex videos featuring her and Elliott for money from the player.



Lists of threats from Tiffany against Elliot:


▪ After being told Elliott didn’t want her at his house on July 21 and he didn’t want her coming out with him, Thompson responded with: “Ok this is what you want? Ok then, I’m going to ruin your life. You will see. If I was you, I wouldn’t go out tonight.”


▪ After being told she couldn’t come Elliott’s 21st birthday party, Thompson told him “that’s worst decision you made in your life. I’m going to ruin you life now.”


▪ The report also details a text message in which Thompson told Elliott: “You better be smart. And not be a dumb man.”


▪ After not being allowed in the after party, she was heard yelling and screaming that “your career is over” and then proceeded to call the police.


▪ Elliott is also “100 percent certain” Thompson told him on July 22, “You are a black male athlete. I’m a white girl. They are not going to be believe you.”


NFL evidence:


Tiffany documented pictures of bruises that the NFL claims happened while she was with Elliot due to metadata.


They generally believe her

 

[goshan]

It's not about being naïve.

Zeke very well could've done what she is saying.

Prove it though.


You can't suspend someone based on a theory. Especially when there is a plethora of evidence that shows her saying she is trying to blackmail the guy.

Ok fair. Nobody an prove anything, unless there is evidence we haven't heard about. It appears the way the NFL works is different. If they decide you 'likely' did something, you will get punished. The four panel members told RG that Zeke likely abused her, despite the lack of credibility of the witness.

 

[Stash]

It's not about being naïve.

Zeke very well could've done what she is saying.

Prove it though.


You can't suspend someone based on a theory. Especially when there is a plethora of evidence that shows her saying she is trying to blackmail the guy.

Congrats, it's official.

You're not naive.

 

[goshan]

You have no idea why they came up with their rationale. you really have no idea about their background and yet you take them at their word anyway.

They have far more information on the case than we do and talked, first-hand, to many witnesses including Zeke and Tiffany. They concluded he likely did something. I have read bios of the panel members, they are diverse and accomplished people.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

This type of evidence could also be used to support the NFL's case. There is enough crap this woman tried to do that could have led to Zeke to being extremely upset and doing something he would not normally do. Could also explain the couple of days spent together because he was trying to convince her to not reveal anything.

Not suggesting this is what I think happened but saying it is possible how the NFL could use the same data against Zeke.

True, but her obvious lack of character helps Zeke's side (or should).

 

[Stash]

Ok fair. Nobody an prove anything, unless there is evidence we haven't heard about. It appears the way the NFL works is different. If they decide you 'likely' did something, you will get punished. The four panel members told RG that Zeke likely abused her, despite the lack of credibility of the witness.

Which didn't before, and won't now hold up in a court of law.

And that's why those that are trained and paid to make those decisions decided against proceeding with charges they knew wouldn't hold up.

This not trained and not paid to make those decisions? Those people decided differently. The ones you want to believe.

 

[Jake]

The amount of evidence the league ignored that cut right to the credibility of this woman is starting to make my brain hurt.

I hope you burn Roger.

Well, Roger has a chance to do something about it when he hears the appeal. I'm not expecting much, though.