Signed by Cowboys Zimmer agrees to terms with Cowboys

DuncanIso

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People are too caught up with his age. This isn't Marinelli who was stubborn and stuck with his system, Zimmer has evolved his defense quite a bit over the years.
Agree.

Zimmer is all about football.

He’s lost everything else.
 

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Isn't it the GMs job to recognize the deficiencies in our team and work to fill the holes via draft and free agency? We’re talking about your Jerry.
Losing the two LBs hurt.

But DQ did the best he could.

LVE was more important than the #LVEHaters want to admit.
 

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Believe me its not my intent to say anything positive about this undeserving team, but I think Zim is a very good DC. In a normal situation without a lameduck coach this would be a great hire. Unfortunately this team has collapse written all over it regardless.
 

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I don't know if he'll be the right defensive coach here, but he's been a good one in his career. His fit here will depend a lot (like it does with all coaches) on what the front office gives him to work with. If they don't improve the linebackers and DTs, in particular, then Zimmer will look no better than his predecessor. The good news in that respect is that usually when you bring in a new guy, your offseason is more geared to giving him what he needs to succeed.
Agreed. It's a good draft for LB, for the size of DT that Zim likes will need to draft them early which means in draft at least I'd expect only one OL this year.
 

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I don't think I'll be missing DQ. His performance against Green Bay was the last straw for me. I'm ready to give Zimmer the controls and see if he can clean up some of DQ's slop.
:hammer: ......Me too. Done with Quinn. Everyone thinks he walked on water. While in fact he pissed away a lot of our talent by playing guys out of position. And whenever he did find some success with something...like that AA gap blitz with Parsons....then he would completely get away from it....instead of running it until they figured out how to stop it.
 

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This team could sign Chris Jones and Patrick Queen and people would still poop on this signing
If we signed those two, nobody would care WHO they hired. Problem is we won't sign anyone, and they hired some another dude who's been on his couch, with "fam" ties. Status quo. For me the bigger problem is that you know Jerry wants Zimmer as our next HC.
 

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Not a fan of signing Zimmer. I would rather have Quinn and get him better players to work with. Our defense will have a setback because of this coaching change.
He had how many years to get him better players? He failed here. Miserably. The late season collapses are much more the fault of the defense than the offense or special teams combined.
 

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He had how many years to get him better players? He failed here. Miserably. The late season collapses are much more the fault of the defense than the offense or special teams combined.
False, our defense has out performed the Dallas offense the last couple of games. This last playoff game, they were equally horrible
 

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Isn't it the GMs job to recognize the deficiencies in our team and work to fill the holes via draft and free agency? Were talking about your Jerry.
Generally speaking. But does anyone think Jerry or Stephen does that? That's why they have Will McClay in a pseudo-GM role. Now, I do think that the Joneses, as the acting front office handcuff McClay, in that they have come up with this philosophy concerning outside free agents that severely limits our roster-building efforts. That's honestly where I think we come up short on competing with these top teams. While the 49ers are adding a Javon Hargrave to fill the middle of their defense where drafting a Mazi Smith and hoping he fills the middle of our defense. Draftwise, you can put what we've done up against what other teams have done and it's at least on the same level. Our use of free agency, though, does not match up well against the Super Bowl contenders. They've added key pieces that they've needed while McClay is told to shop for bargains or to fix it in the draft.

Meanwhile, our fans get all caught up in blaming this player or blaming that player or blaming the defensive coordinator, etc. When your front office is leaving weak links each year because of its philosophy, the chain is going to break.
 

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Glad it wasn't Rex Ryan. He's kind of a blowhard.
If the name of the game is stop the best QB in the league..Rex has a pretty good track record..He may not have beat him but he was probably the best at giving Brady fits..never had anything close to a QB to compete with Brady though.
 

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Generally speaking. But does anyone think Jerry or Stephen does that? That's why they have Will McClay in a pseudo-GM role. Now, I do think that the Joneses, as the acting front office handcuff McClay, in that they have come up with this philosophy concerning outside free agents that severely limits our roster-building efforts. That's honestly where I think we come up short on competing with these top teams. While the 49ers are adding a Javon Hargrave to fill the middle of their defense where drafting a Mazi Smith and hoping he fills the middle of our defense. Draftwise, you can put what we've done up against what other teams have done and it's at least on the same level. Our use of free agency, though, does not match up well against the Super Bowl contenders. They've added key pieces that they've needed while McClay is told to shop for bargains or to fix it in the draft.

Meanwhile, our fans get all caught up in blaming this player or blaming that player or blaming the defensive coordinator, etc. When your front office is leaving weak links each year because of its philosophy, the chain is going to break.
We lose a lot of games in March with this front office’s grand plan of avoiding free agency.
 

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Believe me its not my intent to say anything positive about this undeserving team, but I think Zim is a very good DC. In a normal situation without a lameduck coach this would be a great hire. Unfortunately this team has collapse written all over it regardless.
I agree with this. I hate the Zimmer hire, but I don't hate Zimmer. It's just that he's not going to move the needle on this can of dung team. Not now, not the way Jerry runs the circus. It's an empty hire that will turn into a HC position, and then I probably will end up hating Zimmer. Until we get new blood, new culture, this is all just chasing the tail of stupidity.
 

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I agree with this. I hate the Zimmer hire, but I don't hate Zimmer. It's just that he's not going to move the needle on this can of dung team. Not now, not the way Jerry runs the circus. It's an empty hire that will turn into a HC position, and then I probably will end up hating Zimmer. Until we get new blood, new culture, this is all just chasing the tail of stupidity.
He’s a good coach.

Runs a great scheme.

Solid coaching record.

It’s gonna be ok.
 

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Agreed. It's a good draft for LB, for the size of DT that Zim likes will need to draft them early which means in draft at least I'd expect only one OL this year.
They need RB, LT, and LBs bad.
 

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That's a great counter-example and a reminder to me that I shouldn't use make universal statements that include "always" or "never".

In one area, the most important, it was a dramatic improvement as you say. The most important thing that Quinn brought was turnovers. The defense didn't have to dramatically impove the amount of yardage given up, that took a little longer. That's because the turnovers not only gave their offense more opportunity, it subtracted opportunity from the opponent.

Any time you see a defense ranked much higher in points allowed than in yardage, it's typically a sign that the defense is forcing a large amount of turnovers. However, what happens if the turnovers don't come?

If I look at points allowed you are absolutely correct. If you look at yardage, particularly against the run, you can see that it took a few years to get better, although there was no dip when Quinn was hired. So, I can't wiggle out of this one.
Points allowed is all that really matters...
 
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