After this Mess of contract negotiation, will a team be willing to pay Dak?

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You say he's a good agent but Dak could have already got what he wanted in terms of length of contract if he signed last year with all the guaranteed money. He will end up moving on from the best offense he has ever played on to being exposed for what he is. A regular game manager. No long term career associated with the Cowboys after he stops playing.
France job is to get Dak the best contract he can get (top dollar). If Dak wanted what you suggested, he would have kept his old agent. France has made lots of money for CAA over years. He is one of the best agents and has high profile clients. I would love to know what France wanted to get Dak signed.
 

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France job is to get Dak the best contract he can get (top dollar). If Dak wanted what you suggested, he would have kept his old agent. France has made lots of money for CAA over years. He is one of the best agents and has high profile clients. I would love to know what France wanted to get Dak signed.
He sure did a poor job on this one.
 

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He sure did a poor job on this one.
No he didn’t. He got his client 31.4 million guaranteed. He believes Dak is one of the top quarterbacks in the league. If that is true and Dak plays well next year, his price tag will just keep on growing. He wants Dak to be a free agent. He is half way there.
 

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We have options , dalton and others out there . Again , Dak has no notable wins or achievements in 4 years .
I’m not a big Dak supporter . You expect Dalton to lead us further than Dak?

Or expect us to hit on a draft pick next year who will immediately take us further?

In the meantime our core talent we’ve surrounded is burning oil.

The Cowboys have no notable wins or achievements in 25 years. You feel letting Dak walk brings us closer? Is this why we brought Mikey in to rebuild us with a new QB? I thought it was to optimize our current situation.

It’s always easy offering criticism . How about some solutions which will take us further with this core of talent in the next couple years.
 

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No he didn’t. He got his client 31.4 million guaranteed. He believes Dak is one of the top quarterbacks in the league. If that is true and Dak plays well next year, his price tag will just keep on growing. He wants Dak to be a free agent. He is half way there.
It looks like it might not work out for the Cowboys but it certainly looks like Dak will resolve his contract wishes with another team. Ultimately that will be a good job by the agent.

And if we end up signing him next year it certainly will be for more than we were offering this year.

Dak wins either way except for some fans who thought he should take any deal we offered. Many of which have a history of turning their nose up to how much players make.

They must always remember this is a business first and every time your contract is up is time for you to negotiate for all you can cause it could end on the next snap.
 

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You’re missing my argument. I’m speaking on behalf of evaluating the Cowboys based on their stance up until this point not my own views.

The Cowboys were “ All in “ on Dak not me. They had said they were “ totally sold” he was their future building this Elite supporting cast around him bringing in a legit coaching staff .

To be honest, everytime Jerry talks I be like :rolleyes:. I think it was about going all in on Dak and throwing Romo to the curb. Jerry did it with the promise of a bright future. Well 4 years later and Dak's best statistical year was the Cowboys worse as a team.

And now are basically pulling the rug out from under it over a few million bucks. Are you arguing this was their plan all along . Was this part of Mikeys plan? Or have they just fell into this new glorious position without Dak simply cause of his greed and poor representation?

I believe Jerry was willing to pay him. As I said before Jerry needed Dak to improve in order to justify the 2016 decision. Jerry needed Dak to be a Franchise QB and so he was willing to pay him.

But as time went on and Dak didn't sign, Jerry became more susceptible to a different view of what Dak's value actually is. I believe Mike had a hand in that.

Then Andy fell into our laps. A capable vet.

Up unto this point the only people who could not see the deficencies in Dak's game was Garrett, Jones, and a handful of stubborn fans

Or do you feel this will lower his demands next year? Or are you ok paying more next year? And what is our plan moving forward without Dak? How many years could we waste retooling another Qb with this core talent ? I’m all ears...

I believe this will be his last season unless he balls out. I am talking 12-4 or 11-5. 10-6 with this team will be a disappointments. I believe Andy could go 10-6 to be honest I don't think there isn't a starting QB that wouldn't go 10-6 with this team.

As far as moving forward without Dak. I think we will be fine. I bet if we took the 4th best QB in the Draft his stats would end up being comparable to Lawrence because of the supporting class.

Our War's are gonna be sick really exciting to watch. Zeke is Zeke and the ONline has questions but there's depth everywhere the cream should rise to the top
 

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To be honest, everytime Jerry talks I be like :rolleyes:. I think it was about going all in on Dak and throwing Romo to the curb. Jerry did it with the promise of a bright future. Well 4 years later and Dak's best statistical year was the Cowboys worse as a team.



I believe Jerry was willing to pay him. As I said before Jerry needed Dak to improve in order to justify the 2016 decision. Jerry needed Dak to be a Franchise QB and so he was willing to pay him.

But as time went on and Dak didn't sign, Jerry became more susceptible to a different view of what Dak's value actually is. I believe Mike had a hand in that.

Then Andy fell into our laps. A capable vet.

Up unto this point the only people who could not see the deficencies in Dak's game was Garrett, Jones, and a handful of stubborn fans



I believe this will be his last season unless he balls out. I am talking 12-4 or 11-5. 10-6 with this team will be a disappointments. I believe Andy could go 10-6 to be honest I don't think there isn't a starting QB that wouldn't go 10-6 with this team.

As far as moving forward without Dak. I think we will be fine. I bet if we took the 4th best QB in the Draft his stats would end up being comparable to Lawrence because of the supporting class.

Our War's are gonna be sick really exciting to watch. Zeke is Zeke and the ONline has questions but there's depth everywhere the cream should rise to the top
Interesting. So, Mikey is the one who’s influenced Jerry to move away from Dak?

Do you think this was from the onset when we signed Mikey or thru the contract negotiations.

Cause a big part of the attraction as displayed publicly was Mikey was all in with Dak as well as Moore who Jerry was intent on retaining because of Dak. So either all of that was a fraud or much has changed since?
 

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It looks like it might not work out for the Cowboys but it certainly looks like Dak will resolve his contract wishes with another team. Ultimately that will be a good job by the agent.

And if we end up signing him next year it certainly will be for more than we were offering this year.

Dak wins either way except for some fans who thought he should take any deal we offered. Many of which have a history of turning their nose up to how much players make.

They must always remember this is a business first and every time your contract is up is time for you to negotiate for all you can cause it could end on the next snap.
I think the Cowboys and Dak both win on the tag. If Dak wins the MVP next year he will be worth top dollar in future earnings. If he plays ok then the Cowboys can move on from him with no salary cap issues. I believe the Cowboys only want to spend up to a certain amount of money on the quarterback position. They want to pay for talent around the quarterback. I think the Joneses believe they can find a quarterback through free agency, draft, and trade that would take Dak’s deal they offered and be just as good.
 

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There is nothing to be emotional about. You guys act like you know what the hell is going to happen in the future. What we know is he is the QB for this upcoming season, which hopefully ruins your year. And then you guys can spend all of next offseason talking about his contract.

Wow, somebodies on the Rag.

Problem is you people have been trolling us for the last 4 years. Hoping our year is ruined because Dak is the QB and we have to deal with it.

Now what, is that all you got left? You hope this year is ruined. Why because you know its his last.

LoL, don't worry as soon as it looks like Dak being Dak I am sure he will be on the bench.

You wanna hear the future. Andy Dalton 2020 pro bowl selection
 

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This won't have any effect on Prescott going forward. Play on the field is all that matters. He's bet on himself again and he better deliver.

No GM, that calls himself a GM, is going to be affected by the clown act that is the Joneses.
 

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No he didn’t. He got his client 31.4 million guaranteed. He believes Dak is one of the top quarterbacks in the league. If that is true and Dak plays well next year, his price tag will just keep on growing. He wants Dak to be a free agent. He is half way there.
Since he was offered and turned down over a 100 mil guaranteed, don't see how this is a win at all.
 

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I think the Cowboys and Dak both win on the tag. If Dak wins the MVP next year he will be worth top dollar in future earnings. If he plays ok then the Cowboys can move on from him with no salary cap issues. I believe the Cowboys only want to spend up to a certain amount of money on the quarterback position. They want to pay for talent around the quarterback. I think the Joneses believe they can find a quarterback through free agency, draft, and trade that would take Dak’s deal they offered and be just as good.
So, the Cowboys are building Elite talent then inserting any QB. Wonder why we hadn’t thought of that before instead of an Elite QB elevating those around him. Sounds backasswards to me but after 25 years of frustration and disappointment I’m prepared to try anything with this dysfunctional ownership.
 

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Are you serious??????

Teams can separate players offseason business from emotions.....fans cannot.

BTW......IF we can't get him signed, keep an eye on the Colts, Saints, and maybe Bucs. All three could be looking for a 2021 vet QB and they're all built to win NOW with vet players.
You're reading this wrong. I'm not talking about emotion, I'm referring to teams being reluctant to even deal w/ him due to his humongous contract demands.
 

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Interesting. So, Mikey is the one who’s influenced Jerry to move away from Dak?

Do you think this was from the onset when we signed Mikey or thru the contract negotiations.

Cause a big part of the attraction as displayed publicly was Mikey was all in with Dak as well as Moore who Jerry was intent on retaining because of Dak. So either all of that was a fraud or much has changed since?
Again I will demonstrate:rolleyes: Jerry's propaganda game is strong.

I feel Mike did his homework on the whole league last year. As evidenced by the quality free agents brought in at the right prices. I am talking all of them. Even the Oline man from KKC and the DBs from Baltimore & the Raiders. Great Quality.

Mike had studied the strengths and weaknesses of Dak and know what he is.

The way France chose to handle this gave Mike the time and opportunity to talk sense into Jerry.

It was a strange but in the end it will be best for the Franchise
 

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So, the Cowboys are building Elite talent then inserting any QB. Wonder why we hadn’t thought of that before instead of an Elite QB elevating those around him. Sounds backasswards to me but after 25 years of frustration and disappointment I’m prepared to try anything with this dysfunctional ownership.
Or they simply don't believe that Dak is the guy. I have serious doubts myself, and I know you do.
 

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No he didn’t. He got his client 31.4 million guaranteed. He believes Dak is one of the top quarterbacks in the league. If that is true and Dak plays well next year, his price tag will just keep on growing. He wants Dak to be a free agent. He is half way there.

Mahomes set the market and we are facing the possibility of a shrinking cap. At least that is something to be considered. I cant see Dak being offered much more than what was already reported. Hes taking a huge gamble, especially with a competent back up in waiting. If he is a product of a good offense and not the catalyst he stands one injury away from being exposed. Im not certain thats the case, but I cant completely rule it out either.
 

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Again I will demonstrate:rolleyes: Jerry's propaganda game is strong.

I feel Mike did his homework on the whole league last year. As evidenced by the quality free agents brought in at the right prices. I am talking all of them. Even the Oline man from KKC and the DBs from Baltimore & the Raiders. Great Quality.

Mike had studied the strengths and weaknesses of Dak and know what he is.

The way France chose to handle this gave Mike the time and opportunity to talk sense into Jerry.

It was a strange but in the end it will be best for the Franchise
I have to agree w/ your last sentence. Not saying I like it, but I think it may be correct.
 
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