The Zeke Conundrum

[Sydla]

You are using hyperbole to rationalize your HATE agenda.

No one SAID EVER...Zeke alone gets us a Super Bowl...so cut the crap.

So Dak has a couple "good" years and you say "pay the man".

2 time rushing champ and as mentioned 3 straight assured if it wasn't for Jerry's feud with GODell. Not gonna pay THAT man?

You think Dak would have had an awesome rookie year and a decent 3 year run without zeke?...baloney.


You OF COURSE need a good QB to be a good offense, regardless of RB. You OF COURSE need a solid starting O-line to have a good offense, regardless of QB or RB. . Of COURSE some players have an off few games or so. You dont; ditch one of the best players at his position because of a coupel fd up games and entire *** up offseason and season. Unless you have hate and jealousy in your heart. Or (falsely) thinking you are some kind of omnipresent expert and what you say goes.

So...what are you mad about? The money? Zeke's playboy lifestyle?

This is where you are making a mistake. I’ve been clear on this for years. I don’t have an issue with Elliott specifically.

I am anti-pay your TB a crap ton of money. I would have the same issues if it was another TB we handed a 90 million contract to. The fact Elliott hasn’t played well recently just makes it clear why overpaying for a TB is a mistake.

You guys often miss the point by trying to make this a hate thing with Elliott when, in fact, most who have an issue with him is more about the TB position overall and overpaying for it.

PS - QBs are infinitely more important to a team’s success than a TB. Now I have my questions about Dak and whether 40 million a year makes sense, but strictly from positional value, yes, you pay for good QBs you don’t pay big money to TBs.

 

[Sydla]

Its going to be interesting what the Giants do with Barkley...

I hope they blow massive chunks of cap space on him.

 

[Sydla]

The point is, eventually you will have to pay the RB's, or cut bait.

Cut bait. That’s the clear answer for me.

 

[Sydla]

And Cowboys have the same kind of team and coach? What a ridiculous statement.

Put Fournette HERE and see what happens.

If Dak is healthy and our OL is compentent? Fournette would likely do quite well and at a fraction of the cost of Elliott.

 

[Rockport]

Because I already said to give him a pass for last season. That doesn't change what he did or better put he didn't do in his other seasons.
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Why give him a pass for last year?

 

[America's Cowboy]

Do we keep Zeke for next season ( not this coming season)? If not do we make a move on Sermon in round 2? Zeke makes a ton of money. Sermon is a cheaper version of Zeke imho. It is an interesting take I think. It bears thought...

Ugh! Pass on Sermon. He is slow compared to Zeke!

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

There is predictability whenever there is some Zeke hate thrown around. One is the same people will be on that side of the issue and 2 is you'll come running to defend him and compare him to Dak. yes i think any average to above average RB could have put up Zeke like numbers and dak would have put up good numbers. Why? because it was the best line in football. And yes i cant stand Zeke as our RB. But i think you are well aware of that.

I told you before and you KNOW it. I've been very critical of Zeke this last year. Do you deny that?

The ONLY time I defend him" (Imagine being chastised for defending your OWN team and player) is when I see unfair criticism. "well zeke regressed, zeke under-performed". Tell me who didn't? It was bad year in SO many ways I don't see you or these same people incessantly beeching about all the others.

There;s a lot to complain and be dissatisfied about last year, last 2-3 years. Last 25 years. Zeke is one of them. JUST ONE. The only reason you get tired of seeing me "defend" him is because the OVERWHELMING amount of crap he alone takes. If there wasn't so much beeching...you wouldn't see me do it now would ya?

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Why give him a pass for last year?

Because apparently everyone else is getting one too?

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

IF Zeke isn't better in 2021, you gotta cut bait after this year...

I agree...as long as he has a starting QB and a real O-line. Then maybe you do it anyway.

and for starfan et.al. counting my "defending" him...this is not the first time I have agreed with moving on. Selective memory.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

If Dak is healthy and our OL is compentent? Fournette would likely do quite well and at a fraction of the cost of Elliott.

Like he did in Jags?

Or.... like he did for the best team in 2020 NFL? You think if zeke were in Tampa....he'd still suck? Again...ridiculous.

Do i LIKE he held out, got paid, came back out of shape? Nope. Do I like he had costly fumbles in a couple games last year...NOPE! (just as much as I didn't like Dak's turnover rampage in the same time frame).

I'm not gonna be miserable or condescending about it like so many other people. He is still a Cowboy and I'll cheer him on until he;s not.

 

[Sydla]

Like he did in Jags?

Or.... like he did for the best team in 2020 NFL? You think if zeke were in Tampa....he'd still suck? Again...ridiculous.

Do i LIKE he held out, got paid, came back out of shape? Nope. Do I like he had costly fumbles in a couple games last year...NOPE! (just as much as I didn't like Dak's turnover rampage in the same time frame).

I'm not gonna be miserable or condescending about it like so many other people. He is still a Cowboy and I'll cheer him on until he;s not.

I think if Elliott were in Tampa, he'd play pretty well. But then again, at the price he commands, would he have been a better option for Tampa than Fournette? Nope.

And that's my point. In today's NFL, you don't need to pay elite money to a TB to get a good running game.

 

[starfan1]

I told you before and you KNOW it. I've been very critical of Zeke this last year. Do you deny that?

The ONLY time I defend him" (Imagine being chastised for defending your OWN team and player) is when I see unfair criticism. "well zeke regressed, zeke under-performed"It was bad year in SO many ways I don't see you or these same people incessantly beeching about all the others. oh I can be seen complaining about all of them.

There;s a lot to complain and be dissatisfied about last year, last 2-3 years. Last 25 years. Zeke is one of them. JUST ONE. The only reason you get tired of seeing me "defend" him is because the OVERWHELMING amount of crap he alone takes. If there wasn't so much beeching...you wouldn't see me do it now would ya?

Zeke has regressed thats not unfair criticism its fact. Zeke has underperfomed thats also fact. And yes you have at times been critical. and you have seen me bash the offensive line and some of daks terrible throws and the defense most notably the LBs you just dont remember it because its not youre boy. If you think zeke is the only one that gets crap in here then youre blind. Dak gets more crap than him. You are as defensive as it gets when it comes to him.

Now the reason he gets alot shade is hes grossly overpaid and this year you will see even more dak bashing since he got paid. when i seen the thread i thought how many pages before Aria shows and how many before steve shows. lol.

 

[Whirlwin]

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One good season? Are you dumb? Dude has 2 rushing titles, & would have 3 had he not been suspended. He led the league in rushing during the 10 games he played that season.

I’m not the biggest Zeak fanboy, but some of you sound straight ridiculous.

I guess you like fumbling footballs. I guess she like putting the football on the ground on the goal line during the playoffs.I guess you missed the entire point of the conversation also. Get a clue

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

This is where you are making a mistake. I’ve been clear on this for years. I don’t have an issue with Elliott specifically.

I am anti-pay your TB a crap ton of money. I would have the same issues if it was another TB we handed a 90 million contract to. The fact Elliott hasn’t played well recently just makes it clear why overpaying for a TB is a mistake.

You guys often miss the point by trying to make this a hate thing with Elliott when, in fact, most who have an issue with him is more about the TB position overall and overpaying for it.

PS - QBs are infinitely more important to a team’s success than a TB. Now I have my questions about Dak and whether 40 million a year makes sense, but strictly from positional value, yes, you pay for good QBs you don’t pay big money to TBs.

I am with you 100%. We got Pollard in the 4th round and he is awesome. With all of the money we are now allocating on QB we cannot pay WR, OL, a defense and near 10% of the cap to a RB.

It's a moot point though because he already got his roster bonus and the writing is on the wall for this season.

 

[aria]

Zeke has regressed thats not unfair criticism its fact. Zeke has underperfomed thats also fact. And yes you have at times been critical. and you have seen me bash the offensive line and some of daks terrible throws and the defense most notably the LBs you just dont remember it because its not youre boy. If you think zeke is the only one that gets crap in here then youre blind. Dak gets more crap than him. You are as defensive as it gets when it comes to him.

Now the reason he gets alot shade is hes grossly overpaid and this year you will see even more dak bashing since he got paid. when i seen the thread i thought how many pages before Aria shows and how many before steve shows. lol.

I’ve already been here and you didn’t even notice? I’m disappointed!

Other than he’s a piece of trash, pretty much everything has already been said. Finally more fans are starting to realize he certainly wasn’t worth the draft pick, sure as hell wasn’t worth the money and he’s not all that. As I’ve said 1K times, without a top 5-10 O line he is borderline below average and last year was evidence of that. And yes, there are and have been plenty of other RB’s with equivalent or worse O lines that have had more success.

I can’t wait for the day to zeke to tap out of his Cowboys uniform permanently. Hopefully he leaves the DFW area and never comes back. My skin crawls just knowing how close he is to where I live.

 

[Whirlwin]

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One good season? Are you dumb? Dude has 2 rushing titles, & would have 3 had he not been suspended. He led the league in rushing during the 10 games he played that season.

I’m not the biggest Zeak fanboy, but some of you sound straight ridiculous.

What good is it going 90 yards. If you put the football on the ground at the end of it. Again get a clue. Numbers LMAO

 

[aria]

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One good season? Are you dumb? Dude has 2 rushing titles, & would have 3 had he not been suspended. He led the league in rushing during the 10 games he played that season.

I’m not the biggest Zeak fanboy, but some of you sound straight ridiculous.

Who the hell cares about rushing titles when it was due strictly to volume? He’s average to below average in most individual statistics such as yards from scrimmage, broken tackles, yards after contact, elusiveness, etc. Not to mention, one RB ho has win a rushing title in the past twenty years also went on to win the Super Bowl which is why paying RB’s that much money or drafting them that high is a waste.

Almost every RB in the league could have handled his workload and would have had those rushing titles (minus his rookie year ) if they had the same O line and were given the ball as much as he was. IMOF, I think a lot of RB’s would have done more and had better stats then he did if they had that kind of room to run. The faster and more elusive guys would have had more yards, longer runs, and more TD’s. zeke runs into defenders and falls forward for a couple yards because he’s not fast or quick enough to make them miss.

 

[Whirlwin]

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One good season? Are you dumb? Dude has 2 rushing titles, & would have 3 had he not been suspended. He led the league in rushing during the 10 games he played that season.

I’m not the biggest Zeak fanboy, but some of you sound straight ridiculous.

Let me tell you what dumb ***. Thinking leaving the league and yardage without touchdowns to go along with it means anything. Show me the numbers for that. I believe he has as many touchdowns as fumbles two seasons ago. When you pass sandbox let me know

 

[gjkoeppen]

Why give him a pass for last year?

Does the offensive line with no starters playing sound familiar at all? Although his fumbling problem didn't help any.
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[Rockport]

Does the offensive line with no starters playing sound familiar at all? Although his fumbling problem didn't help any.
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Aaaaahhhh, so there are extenuating circumstances. THANK YOU!!!!